NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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[taj2133]

I'm so NOT high on Knox. Watched him maybe half a dozen times at Kentucky and then watched a lot his game footage in an editing bay one day. Crossed him off my list for 7. He would be a good pick, however, at 22. But I still like a lot of players better at 22.

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Some members of the Knicks organization came away 'very impressed' by Kentucky's Kevin Knox after his performance in workout with the team last Saturday, per league sources. Knox worked out with a group that included Michigan State's Miles Bridges. Knox and Bridges competed against one another in the workout, per sources. After the workout, members of the organization club inquired about Knox's remaining workouts, asking if he had any workouts with teams drafting ahead of New York. That's standard for the draft process, but perhaps indicates the club's level of interest in drafting Knox. Knox is currently projected to be drafted at No. 9 by the Knicks in ESPN's latest mock draft.
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I’m not surprised

[Ugly Duckling]

Whoever said Porter's medicals look good doesn't know much about microdiscetomy. That's the whole point and why it was a good decision for him. He was apparently playing through the pain for a couple yrs before opting for surgery. The surgery provides relief, but destabilizes the spine and increases the risk for further injury. Hope he has no issues

[Ralphb07]

I'm so NOT high on Knox. Watched him maybe half a dozen times at Kentucky and then watched a lot his game footage in an editing bay one day. Crossed him off my list for 7. He would be a good pick, however, at 22. But I still like a lot of players better at 22.

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Some members of the Knicks organization came away 'very impressed' by Kentucky's Kevin Knox after his performance in workout with the team last Saturday, per league sources. Knox worked out with a group that included Michigan State's Miles Bridges. Knox and Bridges competed against one another in the workout, per sources. After the workout, members of the organization club inquired about Knox's remaining workouts, asking if he had any workouts with teams drafting ahead of New York. That's standard for the draft process, but perhaps indicates the club's level of interest in drafting Knox. Knox is currently projected to be drafted at No. 9 by the Knicks in ESPN's latest mock draft.
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0799354829754340343-4

Knox was impressive in his workout with Chicago and he has definitely risen. I would be surprised if he didn’t go Top 10. If Porter is there at 7 and he’s not selected there’s something seriously wrong with his back. I do not see Porter getting past the Bulls if he’s there at 7 and the Bulls DRs gave the okay

[Evil_Headband]

I voted Young partially due to the fact I've already voted Porter, Carter and Mikal Bridges in earlier threads. I don't have a clear favorite and assume I'd get on board with their pick as long as they don't reach for Miles Bridges, Kevin Knox or someone like that.

[fleet]

Whoever said Porter's medicals look good doesn't know much about microdiscetomy. That's the whole point and why it was a good decision for him. He was apparently playing through the pain for a couple yrs before opting for surgery. The surgery provides relief, but destabilizes the spine and increases the risk for further injury. Hope he has no issues

Thr GMs that saw the medicals and said it looksed good were very concerned about the issue, and the specific details in this specific case. That's reasonable risk imo given the talent level.

[fleet]

Final rankings, I think.

Ayton
Bagley
Luka
Porter
Bamba
JJJ
Young
Carter
Mikal

I cant even put Knox on my list. Do not want at all. Too nonchalant. Waiting for a Tony Snell renaissance again is bad for the heart. And I saw E-Rob in person, who put me to sleep like a baby.

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I’m not surprised

I think you missed the sarcasm in the post.

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He looks like a freaking skater with all the black wraps.

[PaKii94]

I want Bamba but from the poll options give me healthy mpj even if I have cooled on him

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I’m not surprised

I think you missed the sarcasm in the post.

I think he goes #2

[Kurt Heimlich]

Only guy I for sure dont want is mikal bridges. Hes got role player written all over him. I'm not looking for medium floor low ceiling at 7. Chandler Hutchison looks like a higher ceiling version of mikal at 22 anyways.

Personal rankings:
Ayton
Doncic
JJJ
Bamba
MPJ
Trae
Bagley

WCJ
Miles/knox

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[tedwilliams1999]

Whoever said Porter's medicals look good doesn't know much about microdiscetomy. That's the whole point and why it was a good decision for him. He was apparently playing through the pain for a couple yrs before opting for surgery. The surgery provides relief, but destabilizes the spine and increases the risk for further injury. Hope he has no issues

Thr GMs that saw the medicals and said it looksed good were very concerned about the issue, and the details. That's reasonable risk imo given the talent level.

I'm not an Orthopedic surgeon, but I am a doctor in internal medicine, so I can maybe provide a little more insight regarding these medicals.

The only way something would have turned up as a red flag in MPJ's medical history would have been if he didn't have the microdiscectomy procedure. If he didn't go through with surgery, then there's a chance that a herniated disc would've been discovered during a physical exam and a subsequent MRI.

The surgery basically guaranteed a clean medical bill on paper. The main issue with back surgery, though, is pain. Everyone has different pain thresholds, and there's no good objective way to measure this. Lliterally all we can try to do to quantify pain is use the pain scale, where patients rate their pain from 1 to 10. Porter's MRIs at this point are going to be clean, until he starts to suffer another injury. He can simply lie about his pain levels as well, and that will also result in him passing every physical and medical exam.

One way to really know if he is pain free is to watch him during an intense work out, and to closely follow how his body responds in the following days. He also has to then tell the truth about what he's feeling, which most athletes don't do.

[RememberLu]

Whoever said Porter's medicals look good doesn't know much about microdiscetomy. That's the whole point and why it was a good decision for him. He was apparently playing through the pain for a couple yrs before opting for surgery. The surgery provides relief, but destabilizes the spine and increases the risk for further injury. Hope he has no issues

Thr GMs that saw the medicals and said it looksed good were very concerned about the issue, and the details. That's reasonable risk imo given the talent level.

I'm not an Orthopedic surgeon, but I am a doctor in internal medicine, so I can maybe provide a little more insight regarding these medicals.

The only way something would have turned up as a red flag in MPJ's medical history would have been if he didn't have the microdiscectomy procedure. If he didn't go through with surgery, then there's a chance that a herniated disc would've been discovered during a physical exam and a subsequent MRI.

The surgery basically guaranteed a clean medical bill on paper. The main issue with back surgery, though, is pain. Everyone has different pain thresholds, and there's no good objective way to measure this. Lliterally all we can try to do to quantify pain is use the pain scale, where patients rate their pain from 1 to 10. Porter's MRIs at this point are going to be clean, until he starts to suffer another injury. He can simply lie about his pain levels as well, and that will also result in him passing every physical and medical exam.

One way to really know if he is pain free is to watch him during an intense work out, and to closely follow how his body responds in the following days. He also has to then tell the truth about what he's feeling, which most athletes don't do.

so what you're saying is, draft someone else

[Ralphb07]

Thr GMs that saw the medicals and said it looksed good were very concerned about the issue, and the details. That's reasonable risk imo given the talent level.

I'm not an Orthopedic surgeon, but I am a doctor in internal medicine, so I can maybe provide a little more insight regarding these medicals.

The only way something would have turned up as a red flag in MPJ's medical history would have been if he didn't have the microdiscectomy procedure. If he didn't go through with surgery, then there's a chance that a herniated disc would've been discovered during a physical exam and a subsequent MRI.

The surgery basically guaranteed a clean medical bill on paper. The main issue with back surgery, though, is pain. Everyone has different pain thresholds, and there's no good objective way to measure this. Lliterally all we can try to do to quantify pain is use the pain scale, where patients rate their pain from 1 to 10. Porter's MRIs at this point are going to be clean, until he starts to suffer another injury. He can simply lie about his pain levels as well, and that will also result in him passing every physical and medical exam.

One way to really know if he is pain free is to watch him during an intense work out, and to closely follow how his body responds in the following days. He also has to then tell the truth about what he's feeling, which most athletes don't do.

so what you're saying is, draft someone else

I’m a big draft Porter at 7 guy and this is only one medically opinion but it’s scary.

[Red Larrivee]

I'm not an Orthopedic surgeon, but I am a doctor in internal medicine, so I can maybe provide a little more insight regarding these medicals.

The only way something would have turned up as a red flag in MPJ's medical history would have been if he didn't have the microdiscectomy procedure. If he didn't go through with surgery, then there's a chance that a herniated disc would've been discovered during a physical exam and a subsequent MRI.

The surgery basically guaranteed a clean medical bill on paper. The main issue with back surgery, though, is pain. Everyone has different pain thresholds, and there's no good objective way to measure this. Lliterally all we can try to do to quantify pain is use the pain scale, where patients rate their pain from 1 to 10. Porter's MRIs at this point are going to be clean, until he starts to suffer another injury. He can simply lie about his pain levels as well, and that will also result in him passing every physical and medical exam.

One way to really know if he is pain free is to watch him during an intense work out, and to closely follow how his body responds in the following days. He also has to then tell the truth about what he's feeling, which most athletes don't do.

[tedwilliams1999]

Thr GMs that saw the medicals and said it looksed good were very concerned about the issue, and the details. That's reasonable risk imo given the talent level.

I'm not an Orthopedic surgeon, but I am a doctor in internal medicine, so I can maybe provide a little more insight regarding these medicals.

The only way something would have turned up as a red flag in MPJ's medical history would have been if he didn't have the microdiscectomy procedure. If he didn't go through with surgery, then there's a chance that a herniated disc would've been discovered during a physical exam and a subsequent MRI.

The surgery basically guaranteed a clean medical bill on paper. The main issue with back surgery, though, is pain. Everyone has different pain thresholds, and there's no good objective way to measure this. Lliterally all we can try to do to quantify pain is use the pain scale, where patients rate their pain from 1 to 10. Porter's MRIs at this point are going to be clean, until he starts to suffer another injury. He can simply lie about his pain levels as well, and that will also result in him passing every physical and medical exam.

One way to really know if he is pain free is to watch him during an intense work out, and to closely follow how his body responds in the following days. He also has to then tell the truth about what he's feeling, which most athletes don't do.

so what you're saying is, draft someone else

Yes - but only because of my amateur opinion of his game.

Medically speaking, I don't know of the data behind the procedure he had, other than that it's a relatively minor surgery in the grand scheme of things.

I actually think it's really likely that MPJ has a nice, long NBA career. The thing I'm more unsure about, is whether or not he's a net positive player.