Team Canada Basketball Thread

[super_balls]

NBA draft is 3 days away.

SGA's position in most mocks hasn't moved much the past couple months.
Six of the 10 mock drafts shown on NBA.com have SGA going between 11th and 14th.
ESPN 11
SB Nation 11
NBA.com 12
Net Scouts 13
CBS Sportsline 13
SI 14

The other four have him out of the lottery.

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I think he's going to a solid guard in the NBA. Delon Wright/Shaun Livingston type, he's going to be a really good role player for the Senior Men's team. He's going to fun if paired with Murray especially if Wiggins continues not to play. SGA/Murray at the 1/2 and Barret at the 3 in the future.

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NBA draft is 3 days away.

SGA's position in most mocks hasn't moved much the past couple months.
Six of the 10 mock drafts shown on NBA.com have SGA going between 11th and 14th.
ESPN 11
SB Nation 11
NBA.com 12
Net Scouts 13
CBS Sportsline 13
SI 14

The other four have him out of the lottery.

Read an article that alluded to SGA having a promise from a team because he canceled all his workouts. Don't know how true that is but the article is guessing Clippers.

[WellYouKnow]

Anybody see this?

The training camp roster for this week was announced and its different from what we saw before

http://www.basketball.ca/en/news-article/senior-mens-national-team-june-2018-training-camp-roster-announc

No Murray, Pangos or Tristan.

Rj Barrett is listed though.

Very confusing.

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Thompson, Murray, and Pangos out.

Nembhard and Barrett in.

The departures are no real surprise given Thompson's long season, Murray's interview, and the Pangos rumours.

Will be interesting to see if Barrett is just there to provide another body in training camp, boost sales for the exhibition games, and get him some experience, or if he is given a legit shot of making the team.


As we discussed earlier, our guard situation much weaker with Murray and Pangos gone.

Looking at:
Joseph and Scrubb starting, Heslip as the 3rd guard (collective groan from this board), and two of Hanlan, Keane, and Best as the 4th and 5th.

Up front, I think Olynyk, Powell, and Brooks are locks.

That leaves four spots for:
T. Scrubb
Ejim
Birch
Nicholson
Bennett
Boucher

(all this assumes Barrett not truly competing for a spot. If he is, I would include him).

[Mattd97]

Pretty annoyed I bought tickets for a game with a bunch of listed NBA guys and now they rename the team says before the games with kaza keane.


Waiting for all the hate towards Murray who now is not playing in a very similar summer to when Wiggins did play. Only not a tournament in central america.

[Hair Canada]

Thompson, Murray, and Pangos out.

Nembhard and Barrett in.

The departures are no real surprise given Thompson's long season, Murray's interview, and the Pangos rumours.

Will be interesting to see if Barrett is just there to provide another body in training camp, boost sales for the exhibition games, and get him some experience, or if he is given a legit shot of making the team.


As we discussed earlier, our guard situation much weaker with Murray and Pangos gone.

Looking at:
Joseph and Scrubb starting, Heslip as the 3rd guard (collective groan from this board), and two of Hanlan, Keane, and Best as the 4th and 5th.

Up front, I think Olynyk, Powell, and Brooks are locks.

That leaves four spots for:
T. Scrubb
Ejim
Birch
Nicholson
Bennett
Boucher

(all this assumes Barrett not truly competing for a spot. If he is, I would include him).

Actually, I think both Barrett and Nembhard could be actual contenders for a spot. Barrett for the obvious reasons. Nembhard because he might be the best PG on this roster after CoJo, now that Murray and Pangos (and SGA) are out. Wouldn't mind seeing both get a shot at it.

All in all, not having Murray hurts, but it's still a very good roster with the likes of Joseph, Brooks, and Olynyk.

[slothrop8]

Waiting for all the hate towards Murray who now is not playing in a very similar summer to when Wiggins did play. Only not a tournament in central america.

Here you go then - I'm very disappointed with Murray. He should be playing, we need these wins and the game against DR is far from secure - we'll still be favorites with this roster, but we need that W against DR and Murray could help get it. It's a short commitment at a critical juncture for our Sr program. I am equally disappointed in Murray and Wiggins.

[WellYouKnow]

Going off that list and assuming no RJ, I'd go with something like

Bigs- Olynyk, Powell, Birch, Ejim, and one of Nicholson, Bennett or Boucher. (Maybe Bennett because he played in the 2 previous windows)

Wings/Guards - CoJo, Scrubbx2, Brooks, Heslip, Hanlan and Best.

Thank god for Cory showing up every chance he gets because our lack of depth at guard has been bad for a while.

Still think this more than enough to easily get through this window, but defenitely a letdown from the invite list from a month ago.

RJ playing would be pretty awesome and help out alot but i doubt it happens

[duppyy]

Pretty annoyed I bought tickets for a game with a bunch of listed NBA guys and now they rename the team says before the games with kaza keane.


Waiting for all the hate towards Murray who now is not playing in a very similar summer to when Wiggins did play. Only not a tournament in central america.

If Barrett plays then he's worth price of admission.

Same hate for Wiggins should be put on Murray too, not fair to hate on one guy just cause he's not living up to his potential.

However, I think the hate should be towards Triano and Canada Basketball, if its clear these guys don't want to play for him then we should get a new coach, either Rana or someone that's not Canadian.

[Kimiko]

No Stauskas or Trey Lyles or XRM either ? Surprised Mitrou-Long wasn't given a shot.

Really disappointed in Wiggins and Murray. Hopefully both suit up for the tourney in Sept.

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Pretty annoyed I bought tickets for a game with a bunch of listed NBA guys and now they rename the team says before the games with kaza keane.


Waiting for all the hate towards Murray who now is not playing in a very similar summer to when Wiggins did play. Only not a tournament in central america.

If Barrett plays then he's worth price of admission.

Same hate for Wiggins should be put on Murray too, not fair to hate on one guy just cause he's not living up to his potential.

However, I think the hate should be towards Triano and Canada Basketball, if its clear these guys don't want to play for him then we should get a new coach, either Rana or someone that's not Canadian.

Re the players, Murray's record is same as Wiggins - showed up twice at the youth level, and once as a senior.
Maybe Murray has (so far) been given a little more of a pass because he is younger and has been a no-show fewer times. Especially given that the summer you are drafted is pretty much a given no participation summer.

Pangos is the guy who is really worrying me. Zero participation at FIBA events as a senior. Over a longer period than Murray or Wiggins.

Re the coach, I would not be opposed to Triano getting replaced, but we should keep in mind that participation under Triano has been better than it was under Rautins or Konchalski. It might be more of a systemic problem.

[WellYouKnow]

We haven't played in a world tourney since 2010.

I'm pretty sure if we were in the Olympics and World Championships every 2 years our participation level would look alot better amongst out elite guys

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We haven't played in a world tourney since 2010.

I'm pretty sure if we were in the Olympics and World Championships every 2 years our participation level would look alot better amongst out elite guys

Given that we can't qualify for Olympics or even Worlds, participation as the qualifying events is very important.

And participation at the Olympics and Worlds we have qualified for has not been great.

Our 2010 Worlds team had 1 of our 4 NBAers (Only Anthony played. Dalembert, Magloire, and Nash took a pass). Two of five if you count Rautins, who had been drafted in summer of 2010.

Our 2002 Worlds team had 0 of our 5 NBA players (Dalembert, Fox, MacCullough, Magloire, and Nash each missed).

Our 2000 Olympics team had 2 of our 4 NBAers (MacCullough and Nash played; Fox and Wennington did not).

Our 1998 Worlds team had 0 of our 3 NBA players (Fox, Nash and Wennington each missed).

So in our last four Olympics or Worlds Championships, our NBA player participation ratio was 3 of 16.

[WellYouKnow]

We haven't played in a world tourney since 2010.

I'm pretty sure if we were in the Olympics and World Championships every 2 years our participation level would look alot better amongst out elite guys

Given that we can't qualify for Olympics or even Worlds, participation as the qualifying events is very important.

And participation at the Olympics and Worlds we have qualified for has not been great.

Our 2010 Worlds team had 1 of our 4 NBAers (Only Anthony played. Dalembert, Magloire, and Nash took a pass). Two of five if you count Rautins, who had been drafted in summer of 2010.

Our 2002 Worlds team had 0 of our 5 NBA players (Dalembert, Fox, MacCullough, Magloire, and Nash each missed).

Our 2000 Olympics team had 2 of our 4 NBAers (MacCullough and Nash played; Fox and Wennington did not).

Our 1998 Worlds team had 0 of our 3 NBA players (Fox, Nash and Wennington each missed).

So in our last four Olympics or Worlds Championships, our NBA player participation ratio was 3 of 16.

Wennington and Fox were ancient by then, so i dont really blame then. Most of Nash and Dalemberts misses were coach related (Dalembert didnt get his citizenship until 2008, so obviously wasnt eligible previously) . 98 was a strike year. And Magloire just never played at any point for the senior team.



So its really not as bad as it looked there. With the large # of NBA guys we've had for the past 7 - 8 years I bet we woudve had a better turnout if we qualified for anything.

[TooBad]

Pretty annoyed I bought tickets for a game with a bunch of listed NBA guys and now they rename the team says before the games with kaza keane.


Waiting for all the hate towards Murray who now is not playing in a very similar summer to when Wiggins did play. Only not a tournament in central america.

I'm pissed off but Murray doesn't deserve it....Yet. Maybe he'll show up for the ones later on.

[TooBad]

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[mojo13]

No horford or towns named to the DR team.

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Seems pretty much the same team as when we played them in November.

We should be ok trotting out at line up that includes CoJo, Olynyk, Powell, Brooks, Birch etc.

[Hair Canada]

Chris Egi saying goodbye to basketball. There was a time when he looked like one of our most promising young prospects. But now, with a degree in economics from Harvard, he'll be starting on a job at Goldman Sachs next year. Morally, I'm not a big fan of Wall Street and investment banking, but it seems like a wise career path, more promising than chasing basketball dreams in Europe or China.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/chris-egi-makes-statement-walks-away-basketball/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-egi-45b662a2/

On a side note, Egi is not the only gifted Canadian basketball player who's made the choice to join an Ivy League school instead of a High-Major basketball program with inferior academics. Corey Johnson and Danilo Djuricic are also at Harvard now, and Noah Kirkwood will be joining them next year. Jerome Desrosiers will be entering his second year at Princeton, with Jaelin Llewellyn joining him in September. And Eze Dike will be a freshman at Yale. I quite like the trend!

[Mirotic12]

No Stauskas or Trey Lyles or XRM either ? Surprised Mitrou-Long wasn't given a shot.

Really disappointed in Wiggins and Murray. Hopefully both suit up for the tourney in Sept.

Greek media reported last year that he wanted to play with Greece. However, he's never been added to their list of players either. Maybe he's undecided on who to play with, so he keeps being left off training camp lists.

[WellYouKnow]

Anyone else find it a bit weird that Gordie Hebert isn't with the coaching staff in this window?

I thought he did a terrific job with the team in the last window and having a guy that coaches full time in Europe under fiba rules would be an advantage to the staff.