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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
27
16%
Carter
42
25%
Porter
75
44%
Bridges
15
9%
Knox
6
4%
Sexton
5
3%
 
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#501 » by Betta Bulleavit » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:52 pm

RememberLu wrote:I'll be happy with Mikal at 7. Hes the guy I want if Bamba, Luka, Bagley and JJJ are off the board anyway

Being honest here, I'd rather all of the following over Bridges:

MPJ
Young
WCJ
JJJ
Bamba
Doncic
Bagely
Miles Bridges

That's 8 guys not including Ayton. That means that for me, Mikal is (at best) the 9th best prospect for this team. There might even be a couple of other guys that I would consider.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#502 » by mschmidt64 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:53 pm

bulliedog8 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Michael Scott "No" gif would be appropriate here.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#503 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:53 pm

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Good question. Wished I’d stopped to ask it before freaking out lol.


Looked him up. He’s a Boston based b-ball writer for SB Nation.

Not sure why he would have a reliable source for the Bulls’ draft thinking.


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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#504 » by RememberLu » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:55 pm

thewraith wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:
Read on Twitter


That second sentence damn near took the wind out of me. Lord.
I have to agree only if because we tanked to get a player we would get dang near any other year if we weren't tanking? This guy screams Bulls pick that ends up being just okay like Valentine and Portis.


Well, problem with Valentine and Portis is they're not very good defensively. Mikal Bridges is a two way player: great on defense and efficient on offense.
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Post#505 » by blicka » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:55 pm

chris grenham is an NBA and CBB Writer for SB Nation. Got that from his twitter bio
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#506 » by nomorezorro » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:56 pm

almost all of this dude's other posts are aggregation of other people's reporting. not saying he's not wrong, but it's really weird that he would have a source on this
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#507 » by Truebiscuit » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:57 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Kinda figured I'd been right all along, if no Bamba

MPJ then Mikal as the 2nd choice. Paxson didn't hide his yearning for a forward at all

Mikal Bridges is likely our pick at #7


This was my first thought when I first started to dig into the draft process. Boring pick, but he fits a huge need and adds shooting that, at least statistically, is better than Klay Thompson's final year in college. What I love is how he can be impactful on offense without needing to dominate the basketball, and really just what an outstanding defender he will be for us. Dunn and Bridges should be more than enough to offset the defensive liabilities that LaVine and Markkanen present.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#508 » by fleet » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:57 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:
Read on Twitter


That second sentence damn near took the wind out of me. Lord.

At the same time, doubt Pax has told anyone outside of Gar what his board looks like.
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Post#509 » by Kurt Heimlich » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:58 pm

Is it Thursday yet? These rumors and "sources" are the worst (that is unless they support things I want to hear of course).
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#510 » by thewraith » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:58 pm

RememberLu wrote:
thewraith wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
That second sentence damn near took the wind out of me. Lord.
I have to agree only if because we tanked to get a player we would get dang near any other year if we weren't tanking? This guy screams Bulls pick that ends up being just okay like Valentine and Portis.


Well, problem with Valentine and Portis is they're not very good defensively. Mikal Bridges is a two way player: great on defense and efficient on offense.
I think his D is overrated and he will end up avg like them other players I mentioned but we shall see.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#511 » by Truebiscuit » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:58 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:
Betta Bulleavit wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Kinda figured I'd been right all along, if no Bamba

MPJ then Mikal as the 2nd choice. Paxson didn't hide his yearning for a forward at all

Mikal Bridges is likely our pick at #7

Yeah, like I said before. I've cooled on MPJ substantially. But I would much rather take a swing on him than settle for Bridges. That's exactly what we'd be doing there. Settling.


I hear you but Mikal's good so I don't have a problem with it.

Bulls were probably never going to take Trae unless he blew their socks off. They want Kris Dunn to lead, he plays both ways. Put Mikal at the 3 and now you have really good perimeter defense. Now if only Zach could work on that end but now he has CONSTANT protection around him and can do what he does best.


Throw in a legit rim protector and I could roll with Dunn/LaVine/Bridges/Markkanen/C
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Post#512 » by kodo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:00 pm

bulliedog8 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Read an interview with a back surgeon about MPJ's case, reduced my concern about selecting him.

* Most players return to normal PER in 2 years
* Most players do NOT return to normal in 4 months, which is where MPJ is at. In other words, he should get significantly better over the next year & a half
* The risk of re-injury is there but small. "There’s re-herniation rates of 10-to-12 percent over the next 5-to-10 years..."
* "“This is an outpatient surgery,” Fischer says, ”like if someone had a knee scope. So you’re only in the hospital for the day of the surgery and then you go home...Microdiscectomy surgeries typically last an hour, and patients leave the hospital the same day they walk in...This is one of the least extensive surgeries you can have in the spine..."

The biggest concern here is that he won't be very good for all of his rookie season. But surely we're thinking longer term than just next year, we're not winning any championship in 2019.

Of course, I'd still rather have a high upside go with no injury concerns but at #7, if he's the BPA...
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#513 » by Truebiscuit » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:00 pm

thewraith wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
thewraith wrote:I have to agree only if because we tanked to get a player we would get dang near any other year if we weren't tanking? This guy screams Bulls pick that ends up being just okay like Valentine and Portis.


Well, problem with Valentine and Portis is they're not very good defensively. Mikal Bridges is a two way player: great on defense and efficient on offense.
I think his D is overrated and he will end up avg like them other players I mentioned but we shall see.


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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#514 » by thewraith » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:02 pm

Truebiscuit wrote:
thewraith wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
Well, problem with Valentine and Portis is they're not very good defensively. Mikal Bridges is a two way player: great on defense and efficient on offense.
I think his D is overrated and he will end up avg like them other players I mentioned but we shall see.


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Post#515 » by Kurt Heimlich » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:06 pm

It'll be interesting how much modern NBA thinking impacts these bigs who have been consistently rated in the top 7-8 all year. Obviously everyone wants versatile wings and centers are best found in the bargain bin. Maybe that does push guys like Bridges(x2) and Knox up into the top 8? Stranger things have happened.
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Post#516 » by Repeat 3-peat » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:06 pm

Bridges checks off all the boxes, he isn't Bamba(bigger name) but he has the tools to be an All NBA defender with the abilty to knock down 3 pointers at a 40% clip.

He has been by guy since the college season. Would be extremely happy with him at #7.
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Post#517 » by Dresden » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:07 pm

kodo wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Read an interview with a back surgeon about MPJ's case, reduced my concern about selecting him.

* Most players return to normal PER in 2 years
* Most players do NOT return to normal in 4 months, which is where MPJ is at. In other words, he should get significantly better over the next year & a half
* The risk of re-injury is there but small. "There’s re-herniation rates of 10-to-12 percent over the next 5-to-10 years..."
* "“This is an outpatient surgery,” Fischer says, ”like if someone had a knee scope. So you’re only in the hospital for the day of the surgery and then you go home...Microdiscectomy surgeries typically last an hour, and patients leave the hospital the same day they walk in...This is one of the least extensive surgeries you can have in the spine..."

The biggest concern here is that he won't be very good for all of his rookie season. But surely we're thinking longer term than just next year, we're not winning any championship in 2019.

Of course, I'd still rather have a high upside go with no injury concerns but at #7, if he's the BPA...


People freak about about "back surgery" without realizing that there are a lot of different types of back surgeries, from minor to major. What he had done is pretty minor.

I really doubt this will affect him his whole rookie year. Reports are that teams are impressed enough by him to pick him as high as #2. He may be a little slow the first few months of the season, but by Christmas, I would bet he's at full strength.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#518 » by Repeat 3-peat » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:08 pm

G Buckets wrote:Bridges checks off all the boxes, he isn't Bamba(bigger name) but he has the tools to be an All NBA defender with the abilty to knock down 3 pointers at a 40% clip.

He has been by guy since the college season. Would be extremely happy with him at #7.


But with that said, I still think MPJ will be there.
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Post#519 » by Red Larrivee » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:09 pm

NewEra21 wrote:If we renounce all of our cap holds we could be able to take on Parsons and Faried. How does that work with resigning Lavine though? I really could care less if they did, but the Bulls seem like they're gonna get a deal done. Are they still able to match whatever offers he may get and go over the cap?


Chicago would have to renounce all cap holds and dump a few deals to possibly take on both players without sending salary back. The deals wouldn't be legal until the new moratorium.

Basically, Chicago is not going to trade for both players without sending salary back. They could trade Asik for Parsons and possibly take on Faried outright.

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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#520 » by BigUps » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:09 pm

Woj and Shams are the only people I trust breaking any kind of insider news. The rest we should all read and enjoy, but don't look too far into them.

Bridges would be fine at 7.

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