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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
27
16%
Carter
42
25%
Porter
75
44%
Bridges
15
9%
Knox
6
4%
Sexton
5
3%
 
Total votes: 170

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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#621 » by rtblues » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:27 pm

I've soured on Porter, Carter, Young and Bamba. (3 out of 4 will be busts)

I'm suffering from Pre-Draft burnout and I just want the damn thing to be done and over with.
In spite of all of the wisdom to be found on this board, the reality is we are all at the mercy of Gar-Pax deciding.

I see a lot of pro-Carter posts. Really? A slow-footed BIG who doesn't move laterally very well?
That's the new NBA prototype Center? Don't think so. And I also don't want any Seniors or even Juniors.
Gar-Pax have publicly stated on numerous occasions that the plan is to get younger and more athletic, and
they had better stick to that.

Praying Porter and Young are gone by 7 to remove any temptation by Gar-Pax.
And Carter, I'm just hoping Pax is smarter than that.

To me, several of the highly touted players have some specific skill or skill set, yet don't effect winning,
or impact the game on both ends.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#622 » by Chi town » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:27 pm

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Not everything a player does shows up in the box score. I live in SF, have heard plenty of talk about Klay's game from the Warrior's coaching staff over the years, and they absolutely love him. Steve Kerr constantly talks about him as one of their most important players. He is a very good defender, and a great team player. Former nba players like Jim Barnett that are connected to the Warriors have nothing but praise about his overall game. To call him mediocre is just way off the mark.


Live in SF too and have hung out with Steph several times. He raves about how much Klay helps the team defensively and how much energy he brings fighting through all the screens.

The narrative of Klay being limited... that's weak. I bet no one would say that if he was on another team putting up 30ppg.

Yeah I'm sure Klay would be leading the league in scoring if he was parted from the Warriors. Real reasonable take there.


Had to give back a little overreaction... learned from the best. :D

Have a hard time believing he wouldn't score 25ppg as a #1 option though.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#623 » by Kurt Heimlich » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:28 pm

kodo wrote:I like Bridges as well, but I hope he's not going this high just because his college team did well in the tourney. Because that's been a proven sure fire way to blow high picks.

Chandler Hutchison is 6' 7", 7' 1" wingpsan, 36% 3P shooter, excellent defender, 20 ppg 7.7 rpg 3.5 apg and in general has shown more on-ball and shot creation than Bridges.


How much worse is someone like Hutchison vs Mikal? Both are 4 year guys.
Hutchison is mocked to be there at 22 for us.


I've been saying the same thing. Hutchison has the larger frame and IMO shows significantly more athleticism off the bounce. Bridges obviously has played versus better competition and held up well on a stacked team of his own. I just don't see where Bridges talent and upside is even the same tier amongst guys like MPJ, Trae, WCJ. And with Hutchison you can at least rationalize him being a 22 year old prospect due to his small school/late bloomer status. Ala a Damien Lillard (obviously not the same level prospect as Lillard went 6th).
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#624 » by BullsInBuffalo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:28 pm

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BullsInBuffalo wrote:Multiple sources saying the Mavs have zero'd in on Luka Doncic. May move up to get him.

links?


Yes, this referring to sources, and not providing a link to such remarks needs to be a prerequisite during this time.

Its extremely easy to just search Luka Doncic on google or twitter and most recent pieces of news on him will pop up. Not being a dick, just for future notice.
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Post#625 » by Chi town » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:29 pm

BullsInBuffalo wrote:Multiple sources saying the Mavs have zero'd in on Luka Doncic. May move up to get him.

Moving up with what? DSJ is about all they have?
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Post#626 » by The Evidence » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:30 pm

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Read on Twitter

Doncic + DSJ?

What a ClusterF.

Not sure what they could even give to move upto 2/3 either.
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Post#627 » by BullsInBuffalo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:30 pm

Ugh, I just can't get excited for WCJ. He is probably a safe bet to be a solid NBA player, but we need more than that after the year we went through. Praying JJ or Bamba falls. Would also rather take a chance on MPJ.
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Post#628 » by BullsInBuffalo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:31 pm

Chi town wrote:
BullsInBuffalo wrote:Multiple sources saying the Mavs have zero'd in on Luka Doncic. May move up to get him.

Moving up with what? DSJ is about all they have?

No clue man.. Just reporting what I saw on espn.
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Post#629 » by TheHrvReport » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:34 pm

Trade back for Miles Bridges if you can't get Bamba or Young
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Post#630 » by Hangtime84 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:34 pm

They need two playmakers on that team.

I like DSJ but i trust him as my only one.
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If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.


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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#631 » by bad knees » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:41 pm

BullsInBuffalo wrote:
Chi town wrote:
BullsInBuffalo wrote:Multiple sources saying the Mavs have zero'd in on Luka Doncic. May move up to get him.

Moving up with what? DSJ is about all they have?

No clue man.. Just reporting what I saw on espn.


DAL has 5 and they can take on Parsons contract.


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Post#632 » by johnnyvann840 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:42 pm

rtblues wrote:I've soured on Porter, Carter, Young and Bamba. (3 out of 4 will be busts)

I'm suffering from Pre-Draft burnout and I just want the damn thing to be done and over with.
In spite of all of the wisdom to be found on this board, the reality is we are all at the mercy of Gar-Pax deciding.

I see a lot of pro-Carter posts. Really? A slow-footed BIG who doesn't move laterally very well?
That's the new NBA prototype Center? Don't think so. And I also don't want any Seniors or even Juniors.
Gar-Pax have publicly stated on numerous occasions that the plan is to get younger and more athletic, and
they had better stick to that.

Praying Porter and Young are gone by 7 to remove any temptation by Gar-Pax.
And Carter, I'm just hoping Pax is smarter than that.

To me, several of the highly touted players have some specific skill or skill set, yet don't effect winning,
or impact the game on both ends.


WCJ is not slow footed and he moves laterally just fine if you watch him play. I'm not sure where all this talk of him being some big plodding slow Center. He's not at all. He's quick IMO. He's got good feet and hips. Changes directions well. He can defend out on the perimeter and switch. He blocks shots, but can also potentially be a good solid defender on PnR. Willingness, instincts, anticipation and IQ are more important than anything when it comes to defense. I think he has all these things. He can shoot, has range, he anticipates rebounds well, finishes well. I don't see many holes in his game really.
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Post#633 » by ImSlower » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:43 pm

I continue to be impressed at how totally divided this forum is regarding which guy we should take - whether its at 7, or moving up, or even some advocating moving down. The next three days will probably be several dozen more pages of this thread of all of us linking videos and tweets about pretty much every top 12 draftee except Ayton, whom we all know we won't have.
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Post#634 » by biggestbullsfan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:46 pm

I’m ok taking Knox at 7 if Porter and bamba are gone.
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Post#635 » by Payt10 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:47 pm

I really want the Bulls to trade up for Bamba, but I don't see it happening. He'll be long gone before 7.
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Post#636 » by fleet » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:48 pm

BullsInBuffalo wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
fleet wrote:links?


Yes, this referring to sources, and not providing a link to such remarks needs to be a prerequisite during this time.

Its extremely easy to just search Luka Doncic on google or twitter and most recent pieces of news on him will pop up. Not being a dick, just for future notice.

No deal. We'll take the link.
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Post#637 » by blicka » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:49 pm

Whoever the bulls are targeting at 7 nobody outside the bulls fo knows. NOBODY

Which is why any tweets/articles about who the bulls hope falls or want etc are smokecreens imo, more an indirect message that the bulls won't be trading up.
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Post#638 » by AKfanatic » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:49 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
rtblues wrote:I've soured on Porter, Carter, Young and Bamba. (3 out of 4 will be busts)

I'm suffering from Pre-Draft burnout and I just want the damn thing to be done and over with.
In spite of all of the wisdom to be found on this board, the reality is we are all at the mercy of Gar-Pax deciding.

I see a lot of pro-Carter posts. Really? A slow-footed BIG who doesn't move laterally very well?
That's the new NBA prototype Center? Don't think so. And I also don't want any Seniors or even Juniors.
Gar-Pax have publicly stated on numerous occasions that the plan is to get younger and more athletic, and
they had better stick to that.

Praying Porter and Young are gone by 7 to remove any temptation by Gar-Pax.
And Carter, I'm just hoping Pax is smarter than that.

To me, several of the highly touted players have some specific skill or skill set, yet don't effect winning,
or impact the game on both ends.


WCJ is not slow footed and he moves laterally just fine if you watch him play. I'm not sure where all this talk of him being some big plodding slow Center. He's not at all. He's quick IMO. He's got good feet and hips. Changes directions well. He can defend out on the perimeter and switch. He blocks shots, but can also potentially be a good solid defender on PnR. Willingness, instincts, anticipation and IQ are more important than anything when it comes to defense. I think he has all these things. He can shoot, has range, he anticipates rebounds well, finishes well. I don't see many holes in his game really.


He suffers from being a Duke player that also didn’t look flashy.

I think he’s going to turn into an extremely good NBA player for all the reasons you listed and would have zero problem with the Bulls selecting him. He’d be a great piece next to Lauri in the frontcourt
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Post#639 » by kulaz3000 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:51 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
rtblues wrote:I've soured on Porter, Carter, Young and Bamba. (3 out of 4 will be busts)

I'm suffering from Pre-Draft burnout and I just want the damn thing to be done and over with.
In spite of all of the wisdom to be found on this board, the reality is we are all at the mercy of Gar-Pax deciding.

I see a lot of pro-Carter posts. Really? A slow-footed BIG who doesn't move laterally very well?
That's the new NBA prototype Center? Don't think so. And I also don't want any Seniors or even Juniors.
Gar-Pax have publicly stated on numerous occasions that the plan is to get younger and more athletic, and
they had better stick to that.

Praying Porter and Young are gone by 7 to remove any temptation by Gar-Pax.
And Carter, I'm just hoping Pax is smarter than that.

To me, several of the highly touted players have some specific skill or skill set, yet don't effect winning,
or impact the game on both ends.


WCJ is not slow footed and he moves laterally just fine if you watch him play. I'm not sure where all this talk of him being some big plodding slow Center. He's not at all. He's quick IMO. He's got good feet and hips. Changes directions well. He can defend out on the perimeter and switch. He blocks shots, but can also potentially be a good solid defender on PnR. Willingness, instincts, anticipation and IQ are more important than anything when it comes to defense. I think he has all these things. He can shoot, has range, he anticipates rebounds well, finishes well. I don't see many holes in his game really.



I don't get it either. It's either they haven't watched Carter play, or they refuse to understan that he is a center, so obviously he isn't going to move around like a guard.

Just look at the starting centers in the league currently, and the moment he steps on the floor he will instantly be one of the most athletic centers in the league. In fact, he is the prototypical center right now, not a 7 footer, but has the length of a 7 footer, has quick feet, can guard the perimeter, and can play inside and out on the offensive end.

Now, just because he has all the tools to succeed, does it mean he will? Of course not. But this notion that he is slow footed, slow and a plodding big men is just ridiculous.
Why so serious?
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#640 » by AKfanatic » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:51 pm

While I don’t want him on the Bulls, it’d be fun watching the board explode if the Bulls selected Grayson Allen....

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