NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

[TheHrvReport]

Whoever the bulls are targeting at 7 nobody outside the bulls fo knows. NOBODY

Which is why any tweets/articles about who the bulls hope falls or want etc are smokecreens imo, more an indirect message that the bulls won't be trading up.

Yeah, I wonder if we'll have any idea before Thursday on who they're leaning towards. I think teams generally do a good job of keeping it secret until the name is called because that's in their best interest but it would be cool to know who they're actually considered at this point.

[bpguimaraes23]

The problem with Bridges is not his age, is his ceiling. You don't tank to draft role players. You tank for the chance to draft a potential star. What good is a role player without a star to build around?

You could always draft a "potential" star and have the pick backfire, while a lower ceiling player lives up to potential. At this point, what you thought the Bulls were tanking for to start this doesn't matter anymore. You just want a good player who adds long-term value to this rebuild.

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If the guy you pick is a bust, you will have another chance next year. The tank ends when you have a star.

[Chi town]

I like Bridges as well, but I hope he's not going this high just because his college team did well in the tourney. Because that's been a proven sure fire way to blow high picks.

Chandler Hutchison is 6' 7", 7' 1" wingpsan, 36% 3P shooter, excellent defender, 20 ppg 7.7 rpg 3.5 apg and in general has shown more on-ball and shot creation than Bridges.

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How much worse is someone like Hutchison vs Mikal? Both are 4 year guys.
Hutchison is mocked to be there at 22 for us.

I've been saying the same thing. Hutchison has the larger frame and IMO shows significantly more athleticism off the bounce. Bridges obviously has played versus better competition and held up well on a stacked team of his own. I just don't see where Bridges talent and upside is even the same tier amongst guys like MPJ, Trae, WCJ. And with Hutchison you can at least rationalize him being a 22 year old prospect due to his small school/late bloomer status. Ala a Damien Lillard (obviously not the same level prospect as Lillard went 6th).

How good of a defender is Hutch? Can he defend the 4?

[bpguimaraes23]

The problem with Bridges is not his age, is his ceiling. You don't tank to draft role players. You tank for the chance to draft a potential star. What good is a role player without a star to build around?

You could always draft a "potential" star and have the pick backfire, while a lower ceiling player lives up to potential. At this point, what you thought the Bulls were tanking for to start this doesn't matter anymore. You just want a good player who adds long-term value to this rebuild.

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Maybe Mikal Bridges ends up being better than most people think he'll be...? It's possible. Look at Mitchell. Who thought that he'd turn out to be the player he now is?

You can’t draft hopping for that.

[League Circles]

Whoever the bulls are targeting at 7 nobody outside the bulls fo knows. NOBODY

Which is why any tweets/articles about who the bulls hope falls or want etc are smokecreens imo, more an indirect message that the bulls won't be trading up.

Absolutely agreed. I would actually say that that probably goes for most teams. But especially the Bulls who have always highly valued secrecy. I wouldn't be surprised if the only people who know the top seven ranking are Paxson, Forman and maybe the Reinsdorfs.

[kulaz3000]

I really want the Bulls to trade up for Bamba, but I don't see it happening. He'll be long gone before 7.

Though it seems likely he will be gone before no.7 - if MPJ gets drafted in the top 3 it will put the draft into a spin and all bets are off.

I don't think any teams will draft MPJ in the top 5 when it's all said and done though, and I think he is being used as a smoke screen in hopes other prospects fall to them. Then again, you never know with some of the sub-par franchises who have made questionable selections in past drafts.

[AKfanatic]

You could always draft a "potential" star and have the pick backfire, while a lower ceiling player lives up to potential. At this point, what you thought the Bulls were tanking for to start this doesn't matter anymore. You just want a good player who adds long-term value to this rebuild.

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Maybe Mikal Bridges ends up being better than most people think he'll be...? It's possible. Look at Mitchell. Who thought that he'd turn out to be the player he now is?

You can’t draft hopping for that.

You always draft hoping for that.

You draft the player that checks the most boxes for you and hope they surpass expectations

[BullsInBuffalo]

Yes, this referring to sources, and not providing a link to such remarks needs to be a prerequisite during this time.

Its extremely easy to just search Luka Doncic on google or twitter and most recent pieces of news on him will pop up. Not being a dick, just for future notice.

No deal. We'll take the link.

Lazy

[Dan Z]

You could always draft a "potential" star and have the pick backfire, while a lower ceiling player lives up to potential. At this point, what you thought the Bulls were tanking for to start this doesn't matter anymore. You just want a good player who adds long-term value to this rebuild.

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Maybe Mikal Bridges ends up being better than most people think he'll be...? It's possible. Look at Mitchell. Who thought that he'd turn out to be the player he now is?

You can’t draft hopping for that.

You draft hoping that the player you pick reaches their full potential no matter who that player is.

But if you don't like Mikal, and think he's limited, then I get it...you'd pick someone else. I think he's a good player and don't think he's as limited as many people make him out to be.

[BullsInBuffalo]

I really want the Bulls to trade up for Bamba, but I don't see it happening. He'll be long gone before 7.

Though it seems likely he will be gone before no.7 - if MPJ gets drafted in the top 3 it will put the draft into a spin and all bets are off.

I don't think any teams will draft MPJ in the top 5 when it's all said and done though, and I think he is being used as a smoke screen in hopes other prospects fall to them. Then again, you never know with some of the sub-par franchises who have made questionable selections in past drafts.

If MPJ goes top 5 and Young goes 6, the Bulls will have a few really really great players to pick from, maybe even JJJ.

[kulaz3000]

I really want the Bulls to trade up for Bamba, but I don't see it happening. He'll be long gone before 7.

Though it seems likely he will be gone before no.7 - if MPJ gets drafted in the top 3 it will put the draft into a spin and all bets are off.

I don't think any teams will draft MPJ in the top 5 when it's all said and done though, and I think he is being used as a smoke screen in hopes other prospects fall to them. Then again, you never know with some of the sub-par franchises who have made questionable selections in past drafts.

If MPJ goes top 5 and Young goes 6, the Bulls will have a few really really great players to pick from, maybe even JJJ.

Not counting on it, but anything is possible. Every draft there is a team in the lottery which makes an absurd pick, and throws the entire draft off and then the draft becomes fun.

[Red Larrivee]

If the guy you pick is a bust, you will have another chance next year. The tank ends when you have a star.

And what if you don't get a star? It's not cut and dry. There is huge downside to perennial losing.

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[bpguimaraes23]

Maybe Mikal Bridges ends up being better than most people think he'll be...? It's possible. Look at Mitchell. Who thought that he'd turn out to be the player he now is?

You can’t draft hopping for that.

You always draft hoping for that.

You draft the player that checks the most boxes for you and hope they surpass expectations

Sure, but that is why you pick the guy with tha highest ceilling you can. Bridges is lowest at that range.

[blicka]

For everyone who wants carter. How do the bulls match up with the celtics when they run their horford,tatum,brown,hayward,kyrie line up?

Or any team that can play one big and 4 wings/guards? Because either lauri or wendell would have to sit. Every scouting report says carter lacks lateral quickness,cannot play the 4 and struggles with pick n roll defense.

If this was 1998 Carter would be #1 on my board. Not in 2018

[Kurt Heimlich]

I like Bridges as well, but I hope he's not going this high just because his college team did well in the tourney. Because that's been a proven sure fire way to blow high picks.

Chandler Hutchison is 6' 7", 7' 1" wingpsan, 36% 3P shooter, excellent defender, 20 ppg 7.7 rpg 3.5 apg and in general has shown more on-ball and shot creation than Bridges.

Watch on YouTube

How much worse is someone like Hutchison vs Mikal? Both are 4 year guys.
Hutchison is mocked to be there at 22 for us.

I've been saying the same thing. Hutchison has the larger frame and IMO shows significantly more athleticism off the bounce. Bridges obviously has played versus better competition and held up well on a stacked team of his own. I just don't see where Bridges talent and upside is even the same tier amongst guys like MPJ, Trae, WCJ. And with Hutchison you can at least rationalize him being a 22 year old prospect due to his small school/late bloomer status. Ala a Damien Lillard (obviously not the same level prospect as Lillard went 6th).

How good of a defender is Hutch? Can he defend the 4?

I haven't seen much defensive video on him so all I can go on is his athleticism shown in the offensive highlights, general size length and stats. His steals rate, defensive win shares and defensive plus minus are strong and comparable to Bridges, but obviously playing in different conferences I don't know how much value to give to the comparative collegiate advanced stats.

Neither Bridges or Hutch measured out at the combine, but they both clearly have long arms, around 7 foot wing span seems very reasonable. But my eye test says Hutch is taller with a broader build. But they're both probably more 3/2's than they are 4/3'.

[bpguimaraes23]

If the guy you pick is a bust, you will have another chance next year. The tank ends when you have a star.

And what if you don't get a star? It's not cut and dry. There is huge downside to perennial losing.

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Maybe, but the Bulls are nowhere near that. It’s the first year.

[TheHrvReport]

I'd rather trade with the Clippers for 12 + 13 than drafting WCJ tbh. He is solid all around but nothing exciting about him at all and he may be hard to play big minutes when it comes to the playoffs down the line. If he's there, im trading back and taking Zhaire Smith and one of Williams/Knox

[Edvedder10]

Feels like if both Porter Jr and Young go before the Bulls pick then the Bulls should be in a good spot.

[Dan Z]

For everyone who wants carter. How do the bulls match up with the celtics when they run their horford,tatum,brown,hayward,kyrie line up?

Or any team that can play one big and 4 wings/guards? Because either lauri or wendell would have to sit. Every scouting report says carter lacks lateral quickness,cannot play the 4 and struggles with pick n roll defense.

If this was 1998 Carter would be #1 on my board. Not in 2018

You hope that Carter exceeds expectations and becomes a great center for us. Then you figured out the SF spot with either the 22nd pick, free agency, or next years draft.

Chances are the Bulls won't be able to match up with the Celtics next year no matter what roster moves are made this offseason.

[tunit213]

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bulls-talk-podcast/id1162163701?mt=2&i=1000414072644

Good Top 7 mock