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Truebiscuit wrote:bennjuiced34 wrote:Carter also lost like 20 lbs right? So feasibly he's quicker and more explosive. Idk, it's possible I'm overlooking a guy who could wind up to be really **** good.
He almost looks thin:
kulaz3000 wrote:Truebiscuit wrote:bennjuiced34 wrote:Carter also lost like 20 lbs right? So feasibly he's quicker and more explosive. Idk, it's possible I'm overlooking a guy who could wind up to be really **** good.
He almost looks thin:
The guy just has a massive head! It's almost ZaZa big.
TheSuzerain wrote:kulaz3000 wrote:nomorezorro wrote:this passage from a ringer article does a good job of making the case for carter
i think it's potentially misguided to focus on crafting a team that can be very switch heavy and account for multiple high-level perimeter offensive players, because that might not be the makeup of elite offensive teams 5 years from now.
here's the story, which is about valuing carter over bagley: https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/18/17473842/wendell-carter-marvin-bagley-duke-nba-draft
It's a point I've made numerous times. We can't build our team like the Warriors in hopes to beat them one day. With that approach, you're essentially chasing the best at what they do. What you need to do is build your own team to your own strengths, whatever they may be, and get the league to change to you - that's the only way you can change the tide in the NBA.
I disagree. To me, league wide trends are dictated by changes to the rules and coaching breakthroughs rather than personnel. Thibs and D’Antoni are far more influential than this Warriors team.
If we’re looking to set new trends in the league, then we should start by dumping the coaching staff.
Of the 3 bigs listed, 2 weren’t knocked out by the Warriors.
kulaz3000 wrote:TheSuzerain wrote:kulaz3000 wrote:
It's a point I've made numerous times. We can't build our team like the Warriors in hopes to beat them one day. With that approach, you're essentially chasing the best at what they do. What you need to do is build your own team to your own strengths, whatever they may be, and get the league to change to you - that's the only way you can change the tide in the NBA.
I disagree. To me, league wide trends are dictated by changes to the rules and coaching breakthroughs rather than personnel. Thibs and D’Antoni are far more influential than this Warriors team.
If we’re looking to set new trends in the league, then we should start by dumping the coaching staff.
Of the 3 bigs listed, 2 weren’t knocked out by the Warriors.
I couldn't disagree with you more on this one. You're know the great coaches adjust their respective team playing style to match their personnel right? Just like Phil and his triangle worked perfectly for the Jordan Bulls, and the Lakers, but it was horrible basically on every other team it was used on.
dumbell78 wrote:I leaning towards trading 7 for 12&13 if its WCJ and Young on the board. To me having any combination of:
Mikal
Miles
Smith
Williams
Knox
is just more appealing/attractive to me. Still have a chance to nab a Brown, DiVencnzo, or Huerter at 22.
dumbell78 wrote:I leaning towards trading 7 for 12&13 if its WCJ and Young on the board. To me having any combination of:
Mikal
Miles
Smith
Williams
Knox
is just more appealing/attractive to me. Still have a chance to nab a Brown, DiVencnzo, or Huerter at 22.
What you're saying sounds good but teams are kinda doing that by trying to get mainly wings and more mobile big men to combat the teams that are good in the playoffs. It's like that in every sport probably. Maybe not one specific lineup but building lineups that can compete against the best teams currently yeah I think teams definitely do that.kulaz3000 wrote:blicka wrote:For everyone who wants carter. How do the bulls match up with the celtics when they run their horford,tatum,brown,hayward,kyrie line up?
Or any team that can play one big and 4 wings/guards? Because either lauri or wendell would have to sit. Every scouting report says carter lacks lateral quickness,cannot play the 4 and struggles with pick n roll defense.
If this was 1998 Carter would be #1 on my board. Not in 2018
If you're drafting and building your team around a line up a team could possible make, then you're essentially setting yourself up for disaster.
What you're essentially saying is that we should draft any big in the draft, even if his name was Ayton - which would be absurd.
Dan Z wrote:dumbell78 wrote:I leaning towards trading 7 for 12&13 if its WCJ and Young on the board. To me having any combination of:
Mikal
Miles
Smith
Williams
Knox
is just more appealing/attractive to me. Still have a chance to nab a Brown, DiVencnzo, or Huerter at 22.
Have the Clippers expressed interest in doing that trade?
dumbell78 wrote:Dan Z wrote:dumbell78 wrote:I leaning towards trading 7 for 12&13 if its WCJ and Young on the board. To me having any combination of:
Mikal
Miles
Smith
Williams
Knox
is just more appealing/attractive to me. Still have a chance to nab a Brown, DiVencnzo, or Huerter at 22.
Have the Clippers expressed interest in doing that trade?
They have been rumoured to really like a coupe guys and may be interested to move up.
dumbell78 wrote:Dan Z wrote:dumbell78 wrote:I leaning towards trading 7 for 12&13 if its WCJ and Young on the board. To me having any combination of:
Mikal
Miles
Smith
Williams
Knox
is just more appealing/attractive to me. Still have a chance to nab a Brown, DiVencnzo, or Huerter at 22.
Have the Clippers expressed interest in doing that trade?
They have been rumoured to really like a coupe guys and may be interested to move up.
NecessaryEvil wrote:PLS let us end up with Mo Bamba PLS lord
sco wrote:I am happy that Mikal is back in the mix at 7. Sure I'd prefer Ayton, Donic, Bamba, JJJ, Bagley if one drops, and sure I'd prefer to trade 7 for 12 + 13, but short of any of those happening, I like Mikal over Carter, Trae and MPJ.
fleet wrote:sco wrote:I am happy that Mikal is back in the mix at 7. Sure I'd prefer Ayton, Donic, Bamba, JJJ, Bagley if one drops, and sure I'd prefer to trade 7 for 12 + 13, but short of any of those happening, I like Mikal over Carter, Trae and MPJ.
A random SB blogger tweeted he has a source that says the Bulls like MPJ 1 Mikal 2. Setting aside it is just a random blogger, the Bulls don't know who would still on the board if MPJ was gone. So in essence, the Bulls have Mikal over the other guys in the top 6? It doesn't even make sense. At best, it's a smokescreen for Carter. Most likely is simply bullsh#!
Honestly unless you have inside info straight from the team I'd take everything you've heard with a mountain of salt. Chances are we don't know until Thursdayholv03 wrote:fleet wrote:sco wrote:I am happy that Mikal is back in the mix at 7. Sure I'd prefer Ayton, Donic, Bamba, JJJ, Bagley if one drops, and sure I'd prefer to trade 7 for 12 + 13, but short of any of those happening, I like Mikal over Carter, Trae and MPJ.
A random SB blogger tweeted he has a source that says the Bulls like MPJ 1 Mikal 2. Setting aside it is just a random blogger, the Bulls don't know who would still on the board if MPJ was gone. So in essence, the Bulls have Mikal over the other guys in the top 6? It doesn't even make sense. At best, it's a smokescreen for Carter. Most likely is simply bullsh#!
Fake news.
Bamba, Carter and Porter Jr is what I've heard this past week. It's been quiet lately. It's actually too quiet. Hopefully I could get some good information in the next 2 days.
RSP83 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250232/Good-Teams-Love-Luka-Doncic-Bad-Teams-Hate-Him
if Doncic somehow fall to 7, we should get him.
thewraith wrote:Honestly unless you have inside info straight from the team I'd take everything you've heard with a mountain of salt. Chances are we don't know until Thursdayholv03 wrote:fleet wrote:
A random SB blogger tweeted he has a source that says the Bulls like MPJ 1 Mikal 2. Setting aside it is just a random blogger, the Bulls don't know who would still on the board if MPJ was gone. So in essence, the Bulls have Mikal over the other guys in the top 6? It doesn't even make sense. At best, it's a smokescreen for Carter. Most likely is simply bullsh#!
Fake news.
Bamba, Carter and Porter Jr is what I've heard this past week. It's been quiet lately. It's actually too quiet. Hopefully I could get some good information in the next 2 days.
