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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
27
16%
Carter
42
25%
Porter
75
44%
Bridges
15
9%
Knox
6
4%
Sexton
5
3%
 
Total votes: 170

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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1761 » by NDave79 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:53 pm

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That was impressive. Although it was against a guy 16 inches shorter, 15 years older, and 50 pounds lighter. But he did show good handles and a nice looking shot.


He has those scary looking young D-12 dunks

moves with the grace of a SF

And seems to have some Bosh/Garnett in the way of his mobility and shooting touch

There is a very likely chance that this man becomes the best player in the draft.


Even Cole Zwicker, who has Bamba a bit lower on his draft board, said on a podcast that Bamba has the top upside in the draft, even over Ayton and Doncic.


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Post#1762 » by fleet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:53 pm

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And I"m convinced that even if he wins ROY, people here would still say they don't see anything special about his game.


Why do you believe people on here want to discredit Porter? Actively rooting against him? Seems to me most here want a good player at 7 and if they believed Porter fit that bill, they'd be on board (like myself).

I've see his tape and I've drawn my conclusions from that. Just like you and others do about other prospects.


Because you have HOF players like Isiah Thomas bring up the KD comps, or all stars like Brandon Roy- who actually coached him, talked about his advanced skills, you have reports coming out of teams drafting in the top 5 or even top 2, saying they are in love with him, and yet posters here say they see nothing in him that would indicate he's worth a lottery pick. Kind of a stark contrast.

I can see if people say, well, yes, he looks like a he could a great prospect, but just not sure if he's better than Young or Bamba or Carter. But no, people are saying that they don't see any hint of greatness in him at all. Which is just such a 180 degree difference of opinion than many pro analysts, that is hard to fathom, other than some people just don't like him, and will never give him credit no matter what he does in the nba.

Its becomes absurd on the board when people get overboard with their preferences to the point where they call him utter garbage and not an NBA player etc. Then we have Isiah Thomas, who doesnt quite agree.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1763 » by Chi town » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:53 pm

BuffaloBull wrote:I wonder if this Bamba talk is just a smokescreen to hide interest in another guy. My guess would be Jaren Jackson Jr. If Ayton, Bagley and Doncic go in the first 3, then swapping 4 and 7 with Memphis could be in play. And I'm sure Garpax have the book on the kid: staff ties to MSU are so deep.


Ralph has said Pax wants Bagley more than anyone.

I hate Bagley next to Lauri.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1764 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:54 pm

BuffaloBull wrote:I wonder if this Bamba talk is just a smokescreen to hide interest in another guy. My guess would be Jaren Jackson Jr. If Ayton, Bagley and Doncic go in the first 3, then swapping 4 and 7 with Memphis could be in play. And I'm sure Garpax have the book on the kid: staff ties to MSU are so deep.


Bulls have always loved great defensive bigs/bigs that can switch

They've NEVER had a prospect like Mo Bamba, so I'm curious as to why you guys think MO Bamba is a smokescreen lol
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1765 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:55 pm

Chi town wrote:
BuffaloBull wrote:I wonder if this Bamba talk is just a smokescreen to hide interest in another guy. My guess would be Jaren Jackson Jr. If Ayton, Bagley and Doncic go in the first 3, then swapping 4 and 7 with Memphis could be in play. And I'm sure Garpax have the book on the kid: staff ties to MSU are so deep.


Ralph has said Pax wants Bagley more than anyone.

I hate Bagley next to Lauri.


I love Bagley but all of our insiders are saying completely different things but since yesterday TyrusRose said Bamba/Carter & now Holv is saying a possible move up for Bamba
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Post#1766 » by bennjuiced34 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:57 pm

Dresden wrote:
bennjuiced34 wrote:
Dresden wrote:
And I"m convinced that even if he wins ROY, people here would still say they don't see anything special about his game.


Why do you believe people on here want to discredit Porter? Actively rooting against him? Seems to me most here want a good player at 7 and if they believed Porter fit that bill, they'd be on board (like myself).

I've see his tape and I've drawn my conclusions from that. Just like you and others do about other prospects.


Because you have HOF players like Isiah Thomas bring up the KD comps, or all stars like Brandon Roy- who actually coached him, talked about his advanced skills, you have reports coming out of teams drafting in the top 5 or even top 2, saying they are in love with him, and yet posters here say they see nothing in him that would indicate he's worth a lottery pick. Kind of a stark contrast.

I can see if people say, well, yes, he looks like a he could a great prospect, but just not sure if he's better than Young or Bamba or Carter. But no, people are saying that they don't see any hint of greatness in him at all. Which is just such a 180 degree difference of opinion than many pro analysts, that is hard to fathom, other than some people just don't like him, and will never give him credit no matter what he does in the nba.


I quite frankly don't give a rip what Thomas or Roy think of Porter. He has high school accolades and that plays a big part here. I know what I see I tape and I question the stardom label that gets attached to him.

I think he has a role in the NBA as a scorer and feel he's a Rudy Gay type prospect. Just like you won't see me using Garnett to pimp up Bamba.
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Post#1767 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:00 pm

NDave79 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:
He has those scary looking young D-12 dunks

moves with the grace of a SF

And seems to have some Bosh/Garnett in the way of his mobility and shooting touch

There is a very likely chance that this man becomes the best player in the draft.


Even Cole Zwicker, who has Bamba a bit lower on his draft board, said on a podcast that Bamba has the top upside in the draft, even over Ayton and Doncic.


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'I saw him for two weeks while I was out there doing my thing, frankly, he's incredible, athletically incredible' -- Batum on Mo Bamba

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Post#1768 » by Leslie Forman » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:00 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Bulls have always loved great defensive bigs/bigs that can switch

They used to.

Since Taj it's been Erik Murphy, Cameron Bairstow, Bobby Portis and Lauri Markkanen.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1769 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:03 pm

bennjuiced34 wrote:
Dresden wrote:
bennjuiced34 wrote:
Why do you believe people on here want to discredit Porter? Actively rooting against him? Seems to me most here want a good player at 7 and if they believed Porter fit that bill, they'd be on board (like myself).

I've see his tape and I've drawn my conclusions from that. Just like you and others do about other prospects.


Because you have HOF players like Isiah Thomas bring up the KD comps, or all stars like Brandon Roy- who actually coached him, talked about his advanced skills, you have reports coming out of teams drafting in the top 5 or even top 2, saying they are in love with him, and yet posters here say they see nothing in him that would indicate he's worth a lottery pick. Kind of a stark contrast.

I can see if people say, well, yes, he looks like a he could a great prospect, but just not sure if he's better than Young or Bamba or Carter. But no, people are saying that they don't see any hint of greatness in him at all. Which is just such a 180 degree difference of opinion than many pro analysts, that is hard to fathom, other than some people just don't like him, and will never give him credit no matter what he does in the nba.


I quite frankly don't give a rip what Thomas or Roy think of Porter. He has high school accolades and that plays a big part here. I know what I see I tape and I question the stardom label that gets attached to him.

I think he has a role in the NBA as a scorer and feel he's a Rudy Gay type prospect. Just like you won't see me using Garnett to pimp up Bamba.


I'm sure he'll be alot better than Rudy Gay. We shall see though.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1770 » by tunit213 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:04 pm

Sheesh Lauri looks huge.

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Post#1771 » by BullsFTW » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:04 pm

I'm hoping we can also move from #22 to #14 and grab a wing
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Post#1772 » by fleet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:04 pm

AKfanatic wrote:
fleet wrote:
imagge wrote:

Like holv said nothing is set in stone.....how can you not like what you see in this video against high level talent?

You would need to try very hard.


He’s definitely got talent. His shot is about as sweet as you’ll find, be it off fade aways, step backs, pull-ups, or up and unders.

The only concerns I really have with Porter is the obvious back concern and his dribble posture. He’s so straight up and down when dribbling, I worry that NBA defenders will completely stop his dribble game. Porter needs to learn to bend those knees a bit and loosen up when crossing over.

Still not sure he can play SF...but I was one that thought Lauri could play the center position. If the Bulls draft Porter and he stays healthy, worst case is you have him at PF and have the best stretch frontcourt in the league.

I sort of have the same concerns. But the game is about matchups as you know. Lauri and Porter with their size and shooting are going to cause problems overall. I think if you have 2 playmaking guards with these forwards, it could work well. Just set em up for shots. Dont ask them to do too much.
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Post#1773 » by Peelboy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:05 pm

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If the reports of Bamba and JJJ stonewalling Memphis are true, that range of 4-7 could be directly related to where Memphis takes Carter. Whether that means staying put at 4 or moving down remains to be seen.

Regardless, if Memphis has been forced to settle on Carter, the Bulls are direct beneficiaries (unless you love Carter, which I know a couple do).

Take on Faried+14 for future pick.
Do the MEM swap of Holiday+Felicio+7 for 4+Parsons
Use 22+14 to move up to ~10 if MPJ falls (JJJ/Bamba + MPJ)

Or DOncic+Williams+Hutch/Huerter.
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Post#1774 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:06 pm

tunit213 wrote:Sheesh Lauri looks huge.

Read on Twitter
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He looks like he's ready to kick everybodies azz
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Post#1775 » by bennjuiced34 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:06 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:
bennjuiced34 wrote:
Dresden wrote:
Because you have HOF players like Isiah Thomas bring up the KD comps, or all stars like Brandon Roy- who actually coached him, talked about his advanced skills, you have reports coming out of teams drafting in the top 5 or even top 2, saying they are in love with him, and yet posters here say they see nothing in him that would indicate he's worth a lottery pick. Kind of a stark contrast.

I can see if people say, well, yes, he looks like a he could a great prospect, but just not sure if he's better than Young or Bamba or Carter. But no, people are saying that they don't see any hint of greatness in him at all. Which is just such a 180 degree difference of opinion than many pro analysts, that is hard to fathom, other than some people just don't like him, and will never give him credit no matter what he does in the nba.


I quite frankly don't give a rip what Thomas or Roy think of Porter. He has high school accolades and that plays a big part here. I know what I see I tape and I question the stardom label that gets attached to him.

I think he has a role in the NBA as a scorer and feel he's a Rudy Gay type prospect. Just like you won't see me using Garnett to pimp up Bamba.


I'm sure he'll be alot better than Rudy Gay. We shall see though.


That's fair...we see him differently. But I can guarantee there aren't many (if at all) that actively want Porter to fail. Especially if the Bulls select him.
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Post#1776 » by BahamaBull » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:07 pm

BuffaloBull wrote:I wonder if this Bamba talk is just a smokescreen to hide interest in another guy. My guess would be Jaren Jackson Jr. If Ayton, Bagley and Doncic go in the first 3, then swapping 4 and 7 with Memphis could be in play. And I'm sure Garpax have the book on the kid: staff ties to MSU are so deep.


For some reason I think Bulls want Bagley if they move up.
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Post#1777 » by jStuNNa » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:07 pm

tunit213 wrote:Sheesh Lauri looks huge.

Read on Twitter
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He looks really cut too, like it's all muscle gain. You can see it in how lean his face is. Good for him.
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Post#1778 » by fleet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:08 pm

tunit213 wrote:Sheesh Lauri looks huge.

Read on Twitter
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His back must be feeling good if he is this active. As far as muscle goes, not sure I see a difference. Need to see more.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1779 » by Dresden » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:09 pm

bennjuiced34 wrote:
Dresden wrote:
bennjuiced34 wrote:
Why do you believe people on here want to discredit Porter? Actively rooting against him? Seems to me most here want a good player at 7 and if they believed Porter fit that bill, they'd be on board (like myself).

I've see his tape and I've drawn my conclusions from that. Just like you and others do about other prospects.


Because you have HOF players like Isiah Thomas bring up the KD comps, or all stars like Brandon Roy- who actually coached him, talked about his advanced skills, you have reports coming out of teams drafting in the top 5 or even top 2, saying they are in love with him, and yet posters here say they see nothing in him that would indicate he's worth a lottery pick. Kind of a stark contrast.

I can see if people say, well, yes, he looks like a he could a great prospect, but just not sure if he's better than Young or Bamba or Carter. But no, people are saying that they don't see any hint of greatness in him at all. Which is just such a 180 degree difference of opinion than many pro analysts, that is hard to fathom, other than some people just don't like him, and will never give him credit no matter what he does in the nba.


I quite frankly don't give a rip what Thomas or Roy think of Porter. He has high school accolades and that plays a big part here. I know what I see I tape and I question the stardom label that gets attached to him.

I think he has a role in the NBA as a scorer and feel he's a Rudy Gay type prospect. Just like you won't see me using Garnett to pimp up Bamba.


That's the curious part to me- Isiah Thomas is a HOF player. You'd think his opinion would carry some weight. Same with Brandon Roy- he coached Porter. If anyone knows what he's about, it would be him. Yet you say you couldn't care less what they say. Baffling.
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Post#1780 » by Indomitable » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:10 pm

Dan Z wrote:
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I love this kid too.

Somehow, someway I'm hoping for a miracle & we land Bamba/Porter Jr.


Say what you will about Isiah as a GM, but he was good when it came to drafting. It's interesting to see him give Porter tips on his dribble. Also when asked about where he sees himself in the league Porter never once mentioned defense. Not a big deal though...he's known for his scoring at this point.

He said one of the best players in the league actually.
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