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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
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Carter
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25%
Porter
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Bridges
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9%
Knox
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4%
Sexton
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3%
 
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2281 » by Dominator83 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:54 pm

HomoSapien wrote:My prediction:

Bulls do a deal centered around Asik, Valentine, 22, and a Future 1st (top 10 protected) for Parsons and #4. Bulls draft Bamba at 4 and Porter at 7.


Memphis would slam down the phone. We're not getting #4 without giving up #7 guys. And even in your scenario and by some miracle they did, that future 1st from our end would most certainly need to be unprotected
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2282 » by madvillian » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:54 pm

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Read on Twitter


I read somewhere the opposite, that the owner wanted Bagley.

Interesting.


If their owner wants Luka, it's the kiss of death, ****.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2283 » by TyrusRose2425 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:55 pm

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TyrusRose2425 wrote:Everybody wait and chill till tomorrow and see what happens. Nothing is imminent and if it was, you would hear it from Woj or someone else before me


If nothing is close to happening then whats the point of the cryptic tweets (Ba) acting like somethings gonna go down

what's the point of any of this?
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2284 » by madvillian » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:55 pm

TyrusRose2425 wrote:
boozapalooza wrote:
TyrusRose2425 wrote:Everybody wait and chill till tomorrow and see what happens. Nothing is imminent and if it was, you would hear it from Woj or someone else before me


If nothing is close to happening then whats the point of the cryptic tweets (Ba) acting like somethings gonna go down

what's the point of any of this?



dumbell78 wrote:Random comment....Mikal Bridges stroke is dripping right now in summer league. Carry on.


I'll go ahead and make a sig bet that Mikal is better by RPM this year than Zach.
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Post#2285 » by HomoSapien » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:57 pm

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HomoSapien wrote:My prediction:

Bulls do a deal centered around Asik, Valentine, 22, and a Future 1st (top 10 protected) for Parsons and #4. Bulls draft Bamba at 4 and Porter at 7.

Wouldn't memphis prefer this year's #9 from New York over a future top-10 restricted pick? I wouldn't put it past New York to trade Porzingis either. I also think Dallas goes for Porter if Doncic and Bamba are off the board in that scenario.

If the Bulls do a deal with Memphis, there is no holding onto that #7 pick. It would make no sense from Memphis' POV to have go back to their fans and explain how they just gave up the #4 pick in the draft to salary dump Chandler Parsons. I don't care what kind of future pick is offered, future picks without certainty of where they'll end up are not as valuable as current picks.


If including 7 is the only way to do it, then so be it. Bamba has the chance to impact the franchise for the next fifteen years.
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Post#2286 » by kulaz3000 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:58 pm

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kulaz3000 wrote:
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Read on Twitter


I read somewhere the opposite, that the owner wanted Bagley.

Interesting.


If their owner wants Luka, it's the kiss of death, ****.


Put it this way, whoever they end up drafting, they could be super talented, but they won't be on the team for long.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2287 » by Payt10 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:58 pm

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KevinPandawong wrote:Wouldn't memphis prefer this year's #9 from New York over a future top-10 restricted pick? I wouldn't put it past New York to trade Porzingis either. I also think Dallas goes for Porter if Doncic and Bamba are off the board in that scenario.

If the Bulls do a deal with Memphis, there is no holding onto that #7 pick. It would make no sense from Memphis' POV to have go back to their fans and explain how they just gave up the #4 pick in the draft to salary dump Chandler Parsons. I don't care what kind of future pick is offered, future picks without certainty of where they'll end up are not as valuable as current picks.


Agreed. I believe if we want #4, we have to give up #7 and take on Parsons' contract as a starting point. Knowing the Bulls, they would likely throw in a 2nd or three.

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I wouldn't be surprised if they'd throw in the 22nd pick, instead of a 2nd. I could totally see the scenario where Reinsdorf wouldn't want to have to pay another 1st rd pick after taking on Parson's contract.
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Post#2288 » by Dresden » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:59 pm

Bulls_Fan wrote:If this was a different era of the NBA i'd be all over Bamba. However, his game doesn't overly impress me. If he dropped to 7 is one thing but to trade up for his services is not something i'd endorse.

Pax in 27 hours: "We had discussions w/ teams but the price and what they were asking for was too high and not something we thought was a good idea for the future direction of our team."


I pretty much agree on Bamba. If he falls to us at 7, fine. I'd still take Porter over him if both are available. If we trade up, I would hope its for someone other than him. Ayton, Doncic, Bagley, Porter (altho not as likely we'd need to), or even JJJ.

Comparing JJJ to Bamba, JJJ blocked more shots per minute, has a way, way more proven outside shot, has far more advanced defensive skills, and has shown an ability to score inside a little- probably more so than Bamba other than when it comes to lobs.

JJJ will never have Bamba's length, obviously, but his skill set is much more diverse and stronger, plus he's at least half a year younger. And to top it all off, he's already 235, so weight isn't nearly as big of an issue.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2289 » by boozapalooza » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:59 pm

Payt10 wrote:
KevinPandawong wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:My prediction:

Bulls do a deal centered around Asik, Valentine, 22, and a Future 1st (top 10 protected) for Parsons and #4. Bulls draft Bamba at 4 and Porter at 7.

Wouldn't memphis prefer this year's #9 from New York over a future top-10 restricted pick? I wouldn't put it past New York to trade Porzingis either. I also think Dallas goes for Porter if Doncic and Bamba are off the board in that scenario.

If the Bulls do a deal with Memphis, there is no holding onto that #7 pick. It would make no sense from Memphis' POV to have go back to their fans and explain how they just gave up the #4 pick in the draft to salary dump Chandler Parsons. I don't care what kind of future pick is offered, future picks without certainty of where they'll end up are not as valuable as current picks.


Disagree. Boston has Memphis’ 1st rounder next year. Their owner said he wants them to win 50 games next year and unless Bagley or Luka are at 4, the only way for them to be a playoff team this year is through free agency. They need to shed Parson’s salary for that to be a possibility, and we can offer them our pick next year(with protections), Portis, and the 22. Theyll be able to make some free agency additions, add a good young player in Portis, still have a decent 1st rounder in a loaded draft, and get back at 1st rounder next year. Thats a good haul for them.

2019 1st, 22, and Portis for 4th and Parsons is the offer.
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Post#2290 » by KevinPandawong » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:59 pm

Bulls_Fan wrote:If this was a different era of the NBA i'd be all over Bamba. However, his game doesn't overly impress me. If he dropped to 7 is one thing but to trade up for his services is not something i'd endorse.

Pax in 27 hours: "We had discussions w/ teams but the price and what they were asking for was too high and not something we thought was a good idea for the future direction of our team."


Lavine get's a lot of heat for not playing team ball, but at least he has an offensive game. Bamba is the definition of black hole on offense, I don't think people are seeing just how raw he is or remember how awful it felt having to play 4 on 5 with Noah on his last few years here. Yi Jianliang was wowing a lot of people against a folding-chair too. I like taking the risk with Bamba, but I'm adverse to parting with anything more than Portis and a future 2nd to move up 3 spots for him.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2291 » by blicka » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:01 am

Bulls_Fan wrote:If this was a different era of the NBA i'd be all over Bamba. However, his game doesn't overly impress me. If he dropped to 7 is one thing but to trade up for his services is not something i'd endorse.

Pax in 27 hours: "We had discussions w/ teams but the price and what they were asking for was too high and not something we thought was a good idea for the future direction of our team."


I like bamba but he's VERY raw offensively and doesn't have a good feel for the game on offense. That aspect of his game will have to developed and will take at least 2-3 seasons

I think a lot of people see the workout videos of him hitting 3's,read the sprint time and wingspan but didn't watch him enough at texas
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2292 » by Bulls_Fan » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:03 am

KevinPandawong wrote:
Bulls_Fan wrote:If this was a different era of the NBA i'd be all over Bamba. However, his game doesn't overly impress me. If he dropped to 7 is one thing but to trade up for his services is not something i'd endorse.

Pax in 27 hours: "We had discussions w/ teams but the price and what they were asking for was too high and not something we thought was a good idea for the future direction of our team."


Lavine get's a lot of heat for not playing team ball, but at least he has an offensive game. Bamba is the definition of black hole on offense, I don't think people are seeing just how raw he is or remember how awful it felt having to play 4 on 5 with Noah on his last few years here. Yi Jianliang was wowing a lot of people against a folding-chair too. I like taking the risk with Bamba, but I'm adverse to parting with anything more than Portis and a future 2nd to move up 3 spots for him.

Great post.

I use to get excited by workout videos and seeing players look amazing but i have wised up.

Maybe in a few years Bamba MIGHT have an offensive game and be a factor out there. However, if i'm a betting man, my money is on him being close to what he is now.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2293 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:03 am

I do personally think that Memphis would have interest in Portis, who is basically a young Zach Randolph. They already know that type of four can work well for their team, so why wouldn't they have some interest in him? If it's Portis, 22, and a future first is that a worst package than #9 for NY? I personally don't think it is, because Portis would likely be a top 10 pick in this draft.
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Post#2294 » by Hangtime84 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:04 am

Come on Pax do your swap picks voodoo on Memphis
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Post#2295 » by mg » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:05 am

Bulls_Fan wrote:If this was a different era of the NBA i'd be all over Bamba. However, his game doesn't overly impress me. If he dropped to 7 is one thing but to trade up for his services is not something i'd endorse.

Pax in 27 hours: "We had discussions w/ teams but the price and what they were asking for was too high and not something we thought was a good idea for the future direction of our team."


We are probably in the minority but I agree.
Doncic would be the only one I would deal assets for in such a trade up but he's going to be gone at 2 or 3.
Overall I like Carter just as much as the other bigs in this draft including JJJ, Bamba, and Bagley. Bamba's ceiling might be Gobert and Rudy was almost unplayable at times during Utah's last playoff series.
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Post#2296 » by LordBaldric » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:07 am

I'm watching this Mo Bamba interview on ESPN2. So impressive. GET THIS GUY SOMEHOW!!!
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Post#2297 » by madvillian » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:08 am

Bulls_Fan wrote:
KevinPandawong wrote:
Bulls_Fan wrote:If this was a different era of the NBA i'd be all over Bamba. However, his game doesn't overly impress me. If he dropped to 7 is one thing but to trade up for his services is not something i'd endorse.

Pax in 27 hours: "We had discussions w/ teams but the price and what they were asking for was too high and not something we thought was a good idea for the future direction of our team."


Lavine get's a lot of heat for not playing team ball, but at least he has an offensive game. Bamba is the definition of black hole on offense, I don't think people are seeing just how raw he is or remember how awful it felt having to play 4 on 5 with Noah on his last few years here. Yi Jianliang was wowing a lot of people against a folding-chair too. I like taking the risk with Bamba, but I'm adverse to parting with anything more than Portis and a future 2nd to move up 3 spots for him.

Great post.

I use to get excited by workout videos and seeing players look amazing but i have wised up.

Maybe in a few years Bamba MIGHT have an offensive game and be a factor out there. However, if i'm a betting man, my money is on him being close to what he is now.


If bamba was really a great offensive prospect he'd be #1 with a bullet. That he's mocked 3-5 with his talent defensively is a clear indication that that's not just an opinion some of us message board posters have.

If he does develop offensively to the point where he's not a liability but an asset -- it will surprise a lot of smart NBA people.

But hey, every year it happens with at least one player. We'll see.
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Post#2298 » by Bulls_Fan » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:09 am

mg wrote:
Bulls_Fan wrote:If this was a different era of the NBA i'd be all over Bamba. However, his game doesn't overly impress me. If he dropped to 7 is one thing but to trade up for his services is not something i'd endorse.

Pax in 27 hours: "We had discussions w/ teams but the price and what they were asking for was too high and not something we thought was a good idea for the future direction of our team."


We are probably in the minority but I agree.
Doncic would be the only one I would deal assets for in such a trade up but he's going to be gone at 2 or 3.
Overall I like Carter just as much as the other bigs in this draft including JJJ, Bamba, and Bagley. Bamba's ceiling might be Gobert and Rudy was almost unplayable at times during Utah's last playoff series.


I've been on the Doncic wagon since last draft and praying we would bottom out and be a top 3 pick. Obviously that didn't happen.

I'd offer 7, 22, portis, 2019 pick swap to Kings or Hawks in hopes of getting their pick. I think Doncic is worth it.
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Post#2299 » by The Box Office » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:11 am

blicka wrote:
Bulls_Fan wrote:If this was a different era of the NBA i'd be all over Bamba. However, his game doesn't overly impress me. If he dropped to 7 is one thing but to trade up for his services is not something i'd endorse.

Pax in 27 hours: "We had discussions w/ teams but the price and what they were asking for was too high and not something we thought was a good idea for the future direction of our team."


I like bamba but he's VERY raw offensively and doesn't have a good feel for the game on offense. That aspect of his game will have to developed and will take at least 2-3 seasons

I think a lot of people see the workout videos of him hitting 3's,read the sprint time and wingspan but didn't watch him enough at texas


I'm 100 percent fine with this. Joakim Noah wasn't great on offense and the same for Dwight Howard. Putting the ball in the hoop is easy. However, defense and the IQ for it, are impossible to teach.



He's a shot blocking defensive monster as you can see. No MPJ back problems here.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2300 » by Edvedder10 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:13 am

Doesn't the Memphis owner hate the Bulls for some reason? I thought I heard that somewhere a few years back. Maybe they have a new owner by now

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