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Who would you rather take at 16 if one of these guys slipped?

Collin Sexton
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Miles Bridges
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55%
 
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Re: The #16 and #31 Discussion Thread 

Post#1761 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:25 am

AtheJ415 wrote:How would people feel about trading to 9 and taking Mikal Bridges and playing him in a 4 out 1 in lineup alongside Jackson and Booker. So Ayton is the 1 big, and we ask Mikal to guard 4s.


I used to really like the idea of him, but I was thinking of him more as a big guard next to Book, not a guy guarding 4s, though he probably could guard some. I wouldn't trade a bunch of assets to move up and get him though.
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Re: The Draft Thread 3: #1 Pick Discussion 

Post#1762 » by Christine-In-AZ » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:42 am

SuperSunsFan wrote:Why should any of you be worried about the draft tomorrow given how much confidence you have in McD judging by how devotedly you people are defending him from every criticism went his way? Whomever he picks tomorrow must be the best prospect in the draft since he is a genius in analytics whose models are so perfect he can't pick anyone but the best available am I wrong? there will always be 10+ people here defending McD whenever someone criticize McD's track record with the draft or decisions he made regarding player movements, if he is so perfect then why is everyone worrying about the pick tomorrow?

Deep down inside everyone knows the guy he picks tomorrow will be the Darko this year be it Doncic or Ayton because everyone deep in their heart knows McD is one of the worst GMs in the league but somehow still feel the need to defend him like an abused wife defending her abusive husband because she has no where else to go.


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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1763 » by Hesh » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:44 am

whoa shake milton has slipped a lot, all the way to mid 2nd round from mid 1st round
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Re: The #16 and #31 Discussion Thread 

Post#1764 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:45 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:How would people feel about trading to 9 and taking Mikal Bridges and playing him in a 4 out 1 in lineup alongside Jackson and Booker. So Ayton is the 1 big, and we ask Mikal to guard 4s.

Miles or Mikal? I don't think Mikal has the size to guard 4's.


He does have a 7'0" wingspan and is 6'7". So his height for sure would make him undersized, but his wingspan and standing reach would be about average.
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1765 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:46 am

Hesh wrote:whoa shake milton has slipped a lot, all the way to mid 2nd round from mid 1st round


Yes. Him and Melton. I would be thrilled with either. 31 will be really interesting. I want any of Shamet, Milton, Melton, Khyri Thomas at 31 and oddly all 4 may end up being there.
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1766 » by Young gun 6 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:49 am

I Want Doncic/Ayton and Smith really bad. Hope we can get those 2.
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1767 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:01 am

Young gun 6 wrote:I Want Doncic/Ayton and Smith really bad. Hope we can get those 2.


My ideal draft if we don't have trades is that exact scenario plus at 31 one of Shamet, Okobo, Milton, or Thomas.
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Re: The #16 and #31 Discussion Thread 

Post#1768 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:02 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:How would people feel about trading to 9 and taking Mikal Bridges and playing him in a 4 out 1 in lineup alongside Jackson and Booker. So Ayton is the 1 big, and we ask Mikal to guard 4s.

Miles or Mikal? I don't think Mikal has the size to guard 4's.


He does have a 7'0" wingspan and is 6'7". So his height for sure would make him undersized, but his wingspan and standing reach would be about average.

I just asked because Miles has better physical profile to be a 4 with a solid 230lb body vs Mikal who's really more of a wing at just 200lbs
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Re: The #16 and #31 Discussion Thread 

Post#1769 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:17 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:Miles or Mikal? I don't think Mikal has the size to guard 4's.


He does have a 7'0" wingspan and is 6'7". So his height for sure would make him undersized, but his wingspan and standing reach would be about average.

I just asked because Miles has better physical profile to be a 4 with a solid 230lb body vs Mikal who's really more of a wing at just 200lbs


Yeah. Miles would be more traditional. Mykal would be an untraditional lineup, but it might work. I think it would be tougher for 4s to guard Mykal than for him to guard them. And his defensive versatility alongside Jackson would be really valuable.
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Re: The #16 and #31 Discussion Thread 

Post#1770 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:21 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
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AtheJ415 wrote:
He does have a 7'0" wingspan and is 6'7". So his height for sure would make him undersized, but his wingspan and standing reach would be about average.

I just asked because Miles has better physical profile to be a 4 with a solid 230lb body vs Mikal who's really more of a wing at just 200lbs


Yeah. Miles would be more traditional. Mykal would be an untraditional lineup, but it might work. I think it would be tougher for 4s to guard Mykal than for him to guard them. And his defensive versatility alongside Jackson would be really valuable.

I personally also prefer Mikal. I like his all-round game and maturity better. I think he's a great 3rd/4th glue guy option who can do a bit of everything. Definitely prefer him over Warren who seemingly can't get over his own defensive/3PT shooting issues.
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Re: The #16 and #31 Discussion Thread 

Post#1771 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:24 am

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DirtyDez wrote:#16 for DLO just get it over with. Luka and Trae arent dropping.


Is there any indication Brooklyn wants to move DLO or is this DLO talk just our normal every so often mention of how we should trade little for him, despite the fact Brooklyn took on like $54 million or something to get him and he was injured much of his first year with them.

I don't see them just moving them. I've heard talk they might move Dinwiddie, who I didn't think they'd move, but that makes more sense considering they didn't invest a lot into him and have DLO and Lin.


For me, based on what I've read from the Nets board, and seeing that the Nets are not really looking at giving him an extension this off-season makes me believe they will listen to offers for him. He didn't really play all that well, didn't have 100% effort every game and appears to not want the responsibility of being the leader of a team. The Nets took a gamble on him, and might not want to risk anymore than they already have. The fact that he was injured most of the season is even more reason to not have him long-term. For a team to trade for him, giving up a mid-first round pick isn't that little. Just because they took on $54 million doesn't mean they can't cut their losses and try and salvage any trade value he has left. Just my opinion. I'd risk giving up the 16th pick. If the Nets rather keep him, than so be it.
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1772 » by DaleyBlind » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:26 am

Ill be disgusted if we draft Aaron Holiday at 16
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1773 » by thamadkant » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:29 am

If Suns walk away with Ayton and Young... looks good.


C: Ayton
F: Chriss
F: Jackson / Warren
G: Booker
G: Young

6 pieces that can be called "Main 6"

Do they go for Avery Bradley OR Pat Beverly OR Smart? to help boost that back court defense?

Do they sign Favors who can play both Center and Power Forward? Or do they go full-brute force offense and clear space to make space for Cousins and sign him to a 2 year 50 Million with 2nd year as player option? to entice him to "test" the waters in Phoenix.
Which would mean Ayton starts at PF and Cousins at Center.... BRUTE force offense there that would just force teams to go traditional when you have 2 big men scoring 60-65% inside.
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1774 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:30 am

It's sad that I haven't really watched much film of anyone else besides the top prospects in this draft despite us also having the 16th pick. And even with the top guys, I only really paid attention to Ayton, Doncic, and Porter. I have watched enough of JJJ, Bamba, and Young, but I know they were never really seriously in consideration for the No 1 pick. I watched Porter back in January/February, back when I thought we'd end up with the 5th-7th pick.
Anyhow, if we end up keeping the 16th pick, Miles Bridges would be my BPA. Seeing how we need a PG though, I'd probably take Sexton if both guys slipped.
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1775 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:33 am

I really would not like to trade Bender because he would be the ideal PF next to Ayton. If it came down to it, I'd deal him if it meant getting Young, but man, I'd hate to see him succeed elsewhere. What's the proposed trade if Young fell to 9? Bender and 16 for 9?
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1776 » by Revived » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:46 am

DaleyBlind wrote:Ill be disgusted if we draft Aaron Holiday at 16


We’re gonna get Aaron Holiday and he’s gonna be another meh guard similar to the other guards that McD always reaches for outside the lottery like Ennis, Goodwin, Reed (early 2nd rd pick) etc.

Suns are really the only team I’ve seen reports of that has interest in him in the teens. Everywhere else people are expecting him to be around the early 30s or very optimistically late 20s.
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1777 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:53 am

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DaleyBlind wrote:Ill be disgusted if we draft Aaron Holiday at 16


We’re gonna get Aaron Holiday and he’s gonna be another meh guard similar to the other guards that McD always reaches for outside the lottery like Ennis, Goodwin, Reed (early 2nd rd pick) etc.

Suns are really the only team I’ve seen reports of that has interest in him in the teens. Everywhere else people are expecting him to be around the early 30s or very optimistically late 20s.


Ennis was only because McD tried to get cute and steal him from the Raptors. He really shot himself in the foot on that one. But yes, please no to Holiday. Take him at 31. :lol:
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Re: Pre Draft Discussion 

Post#1778 » by Saberestar » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:05 am

Qwigglez wrote:I really would not like to trade Bender because he would be the ideal PF next to Ayton. If it came down to it, I'd deal him if it meant getting Young, but man, I'd hate to see him succeed elsewhere. What's the proposed trade if Young fell to 9? Bender and 16 for 9?

Bender + #16 + Mil pick for #9.
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Post#1780 » by Kerrsed » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:23 am

Qwigglez wrote:I really would not like to trade Bender because he would be the ideal PF next to Ayton. If it came down to it, I'd deal him if it meant getting Young, but man, I'd hate to see him succeed elsewhere. What's the proposed trade if Young fell to 9? Bender and 16 for 9?


Im fine trading Bender. No matter what one of the PFs has to go, and while Bender got more minutes, Chriss out preformed him in every aspect of the game (Besides FT% & 3PT%).

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