[2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36

[mpharris36]

Dwight about to buy out of his contract. interesting

do you blame them? They don't want anyone poisoning Allen or getting in the way of his minutes...

[GEOLINK]

Dwight about to buy out of his contract. interesting

Nets making smart plays.

[GEOLINK]

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[Garbagelo]

Sexton and Walker are 2 guys that will look good in the league but be utter trash on the Knicks

[NBA Fan 1234]

Watching Knox vs. Schofield now.

Thoughts?

I'm on board with Knox.
Drafting him is betting on Fiz because he needs to be coached.
He has a sweet shot with range, despite the mediocre percentages.
Really good in transition doing it himself or as a target.
Really creative around the rim in traffic. Natural born scorer. Smooth athlete.
Doesn't move the needle defensively and I don't know if he has any passing ability.
It's clear he's a few years away from even figuring out how good he can be and being comfortable in his body.
Has a lot to tighten up on but he has all the tools to be a very good player.

- The form looks nice, but the percentages weren't there even on OPEN looks. Again, 57th percentile in unguarded situations is bad.
- 55% finishing at the rim in the half court, and no left hand to speak of. His right hand is even poor, with him missing shots either because of poor touch or because he's afraid to get hit. (62nd percentile around basket.) Literally no idea where you're getting this creativity from. He has a nice floater, sure, but he uses it WAY too much. 16% of his possessions in the half court were floaters, vs 18 attacking the rim...that's bad shot IQ. .3 higher PPP attacking the rim with a FTR that is double, but he kept going to the floater.
- 49th percentile in transition was a turnover machine in transition. 19% turnover rate, 23 as lead guy, 13 and 27 on the wings.
- Bad defender with very questionable awareness, but he does fine in isolation situations.
- No handle (especially with his left hand, which is why he would not only SHIELD guys with his right hand, but PUSH OFF... and poor passing feel.

[SARGO127]

I really don't want Knox eh

[NBA Fan 1234]

I would like to know where this idea that Knox is some great scorer with 3/D potential comes from. Please and thank you.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Intresting.

[SmoothLefty21]

MPJr’s talent was always overrated, IMO. If he were a HS SR now, he wouldn’t be top 10 (maybe not even close to it). TBH, he shouldn’t even have been ranked highly in his own class, even without hindsight.

It's true. His HS tapes aren't that impressive. He basically got by by being a half a foot taller than everyone guarding him and he shoots over the top. He had way too much trouble creating space/separation at the HS level. His athleticism was apparent in space but he didn't use it in traffic very well/often.

I don't know why this is such a hot take to people, damn near every year there's a massively overrated prospect. We've been at this for over two decades; HS rankings barely mean a thing.

[TheGreenArrow]

Dwight about to buy out of his contract. interesting

Curry
Klay
Kd
Draymond
Dwight

Holy ****

[SARGO127]

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Intresting.

I'd rather have him than Knox tbh

SGA/Frank is a nice lengthy backcourt.

[fatalogic]

DraftExpress is releasing all their videos on youtube right now
Here is Knox:

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[Oscirus]

Once we draft Knox, Fiz can you work with him on stfu?

[NBA Fan 1234]

MPJr’s talent was always overrated, IMO. If he were a HS SR now, he wouldn’t be top 10 (maybe not even close to it). TBH, he shouldn’t even have been ranked highly in his own class, even without hindsight.

It's true. His HS tapes aren't that impressive. He basically got by by being a half a foot taller than everyone guarding him and he shoots over the top. He had way too much trouble creating space/separation at the HS level. His athleticism was apparent in space but he didn't use it in traffic very well/often.

I don't know why this is such a hot take to people, damn near every year there's a massively overrated prospect. We've been at this for over two decades; HS rankings barely mean a thing.

Agreed 100%. So stiff, too.

Next year's rankings (guys put in the top 10) aren't terrible, IMO. I don't think Zion is a great long term prospect unless he can develop a right hand, develop a jumper, and play defense...but the rest aren't bad. Romeo should be higher than Cam, IMO. Also, Bol is not good...but I digress.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Intresting.

I'd rather have him than Knox tbh

SGA/Frank is a nice lengthy backcourt.

Absolutely not.

[NBA Fan 1234]

DraftExpress is releasing all their videos on youtube right now
Here is Knox:

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Thoughts?

I'm on board with Knox.
Drafting him is betting on Fiz because he needs to be coached.
He has a sweet shot with range, despite the mediocre percentages.
Really good in transition doing it himself or as a target.
Really creative around the rim in traffic. Natural born scorer. Smooth athlete.
Doesn't move the needle defensively and I don't know if he has any passing ability.
It's clear he's a few years away from even figuring out how good he can be and being comfortable in his body.
Has a lot to tighten up on but he has all the tools to be a very good player.

- The form looks nice, but the percentages weren't there even on OPEN looks. Again, 57th percentile in unguarded situations is bad.
- 55% finishing at the rim in the half court, and no left hand to speak of. His right hand is even poor, with him missing shots either because of poor touch or because he's afraid to get hit. (62nd percentile around basket.) Literally no idea where you're getting this creativity from. He has a nice floater, sure, but he uses it WAY too much. 16% of his possessions in the half court were floaters, vs 18 attacking the rim...that's bad shot IQ. .3 higher PPP attacking the rim with a FTR that is double, but he kept going to the floater.
- 49th percentile in transition was a turnover machine in transition. 19% turnover rate, 23 as lead guy, 13 and 27 on the wings.
- Bad defender with very questionable awareness, but he does fine in isolation situations.
- No handle (especially with his left hand, which is why he would not only SHIELD guys with his right hand, but PUSH OFF... and poor passing feel.

18 tho.

[Fat]

At the very least knox will be a 3/D that can play either sf/pf basically the same sh*t as mikal how does he have a good chance of busting lol

But he’s not a good defender, and he was in the 44th percentile in catch and shoot situations (including only 57th in UNGUARDED situations). Him becoming a 3/D guy is far from certain.

he shot 34% from 3 and has the physical tools to be solid on defense him becoming a 3D is very likely his defense issues come alot from lack of focus and assertiveness not a problem at all fixing.

Everyone wants to trade up for bamba talking about how he can defend and stretch out. he shot 27% from 3

these dudes played one year and are 18 and 19 years old and just scratching the surface of who they will be. i dont see how its unlikely when your already on the right track but need more grooming.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I'm on board with Knox.
Drafting him is betting on Fiz because he needs to be coached.
He has a sweet shot with range, despite the mediocre percentages.
Really good in transition doing it himself or as a target.
Really creative around the rim in traffic. Natural born scorer. Smooth athlete.
Doesn't move the needle defensively and I don't know if he has any passing ability.
It's clear he's a few years away from even figuring out how good he can be and being comfortable in his body.
Has a lot to tighten up on but he has all the tools to be a very good player.

- The form looks nice, but the percentages weren't there even on OPEN looks. Again, 57th percentile in unguarded situations is bad.
- 55% finishing at the rim in the half court, and no left hand to speak of. His right hand is even poor, with him missing shots either because of poor touch or because he's afraid to get hit. (62nd percentile around basket.) Literally no idea where you're getting this creativity from. He has a nice floater, sure, but he uses it WAY too much. 16% of his possessions in the half court were floaters, vs 18 attacking the rim...that's bad shot IQ. .3 higher PPP attacking the rim with a FTR that is double, but he kept going to the floater.
- 49th percentile in transition was a turnover machine in transition. 19% turnover rate, 23 as lead guy, 13 and 27 on the wings.
- Bad defender with very questionable awareness, but he does fine in isolation situations.
- No handle (especially with his left hand, which is why he would not only SHIELD guys with his right hand, but PUSH OFF... and poor passing feel.

18 tho.

That doesn't mean he'll improve. My point was refuting the things you think he can do, not saying he won't develop it. Is there a chance, sure, but IMO there's an even bigger chance he doesn't come close to that and ends up a worse defending Wilson Chandler or Tim Thomas type.

[spree8]

Not that I had all that much to begin with, but I’ve lost a lot of faith in Perry.