Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI

[nate33]

Side note: Kyle O’Quinn would be a nice pickup, the full MLE is probably a fair price for him as well. If you could dump Gortat’s full salary, might be a nice replacement option.

The ultimate goal is to find a modern center who can switch on defense and hit from the perimeter on offense (or be exceptional as a rim runner). We'll probably need to draft that guy, or trade a young asset for him. In the meantime, I'd prefer to keep our powder dry and a cap situation in order. We can get by with Mahinmi and Morris splitting center duties, with hopefully our 1st round pick, or a young prospect from the 2nd round of free agency (Noel?) getting the remaining minutes. I'd only take a Kyle O'Quinn type on a 1-year deal.

Probably smarter, but O’Quinn did finish 14th in RPM for centers, 20 PER .624 TS%, his per36 numbers are kind of ridiculous: 14 points 12 rebounds 4 assists 1 steal 2.5 blocks. 4.8 win shares 2.3 VORP. All on a horrible team

He’s a better player than Noel according to the numbers. Of course, if you draft Rob Williams or any center with your 1st round pick, signing a center isn’t a good idea.

Fair point on O'Quinn's production. It's weird that the Knicks only let him play 18 minutes a game. I guess his inability to stretch the floor or be a vertical option on the pick and roll allowed opposing teams to cheat off him too much on defense. He might suddenly become a real good player if his outside shot comes around. He's just a 23% shooter from 3-point range, but he's a respectable 44% from 16-22 feet and a 77% FT shooter. If he can extend that range, it would make a huge difference.

[NatP4]

I will add that I don’t watch the Knicks at all, just look at numbers. O’Quinn doesn’t look like a switch option at all in appearance.

[NatP4]

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[Dat2U]

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No way

Of course they are, why wouldn't they be? The suggestion that they would be willing to sacrifice the pick or draft standing to dump Gortat or even worse for Meeks/Smith seems nonsensical.

The only reason we believe it is because Ernie has done this before but the difference here is that it's an expiring contract were talking about, not Mahinmi and if the Wizards were really pressed to get under the tax, they could do it probably at the cost of a couple of 2nds or a future pick. Or just have someone take on Morris who is not a bad contract.

[80sballboy]

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[Jay81]

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why are you posting tweets from 2016

[Ruzious]

I will add that I don’t watch the Knicks at all, just look at numbers. O’Quinn doesn’t look like a switch option at all in appearance.

As the saying goes, I've seen quicker feet on a yardstick.

[payitforward]

It would be great if we got a pick back for Gortat. He is still a pretty good player. A R2 pick would be fine.

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Actually, "as soon as tonight" does make it seem like a pick will be involved. If that idiot Grunfield trades a pick to lose Gortat.... Sigh....

[NatP4]

Actually, "as soon as tonight" does make it seem like a pick will be involved. If that idiot Grunfield trades a pick to lose Gortat.... Sigh....

I’m not a wizards fan anymore if we give away an asset to dump a 1 year deal on a decent player

[JAR69]

Why do I have the feeling that Sato is going to be the price to dump Gortat? Denver is a logical destination for Sato - they could use a cheap backup PG - but they have no room for Gortat. Sacto could also make sense, with some combination of Koufos and Temple coming back.

[payitforward]

I will add that I don’t watch the Knicks at all, just look at numbers. O’Quinn doesn’t look like a switch option at all in appearance.

As the saying goes, I've seen quicker feet on a yardstick.

Unfair. Don't underestimate O'Quinn. He blocks twice as many shots as an average NBA big. Last year he got almost twice as many assists as an average big. He gets 30% more rebounds than an average big. His TS% last year was 62.4% .

Can he switch on defense? I don't know. But you can't put a single yardstick out there & have that be that -- you have to look at what a guy does, not just what he doesn't. O'Quinn is not someone you're going to build around, but he's an effective player.

[Ruzious]

I will add that I don’t watch the Knicks at all, just look at numbers. O’Quinn doesn’t look like a switch option at all in appearance.

As the saying goes, I've seen quicker feet on a yardstick.

Unfair. Don't underestimate O'Quinn. He blocks twice as many shots as an average NBA big. Last year he got almost twice as many assists as an average big. He gets 30% more rebounds than an average big. His TS% last year was 62.4% .

Can he switch on defense? I don't know. But you can't put a single yardstick out there & have that be that -- you have to look at what a guy does, not just what he doesn't. O'Quinn is not someone you're going to build around, but he's an effective player.

I don't disagree. He's one of those players who doesn't pass the eye test but puts up very good stats year after year. And ya gotta figure there's a reason he plays so few minutes for someone who puts up such good stats. Part of the reason is the Knicks are stupid, but part of it is he has trouble moving his feet quickly for a sustained amount of time. I agree that he has value as a limited minutes skilled player.

[Ruzious]

Why do I have the feeling that Sato is going to be the price to dump Gortat? Denver is a logical destination for Sato - they could use a cheap backup PG - but they have no room for Gortat. Sacto could also make sense, with some combination of Koufos and Temple coming back.

I think they keep Sato. His versatility should be utilized more next season, and with so little depth on the roster, this team needs him.

[80sballboy]

Actually, "as soon as tonight" does make it seem like a pick will be involved. If that idiot Grunfield trades a pick to lose Gortat.... Sigh....

It's already been posted from Marc Stein that they are not interested in giving up the 15th pick to get rid of Gortat. How are they going to do it? My guess is that nobody really wants him and they'll have to take on a slightly worse contract or trade next year's first.

[Ruzious]

At this point, gotta take the Wizards at their word (assuming it was their word) that they won't trade the 15th pick to dump his salary.

Gortat's gotta not let those kind of comments get leaked to the press. This puts the team and him in an awkward situation - not for the first time.

[Tyrone Messby]

Guys I wish I could and I would, but I think im hanging them up after this. We drafted a SG? LOL this franchise is so **** and **** ted he’sbeta bitch owner regardless. Of the cup. Ducking hate that the most intelligent fans in. Dc don’t get a voice but he’s. A big duck you ted

[Jay81]

everytime we make a questionable draft pick...everyone says...a trade has to be coming..no way we need another(xxx type player). And the trade never comes!

[NatP4]

Still expect Gortat to be moved to save some money. Hopefully they target Noel. Noel and Mahinmi can easily hold down the center spot in todays NBA.