Wendell Carter Jr - The Block Panther Edition

[DuckIII]

Point being, people don't see a team capable of winning the East. Hence, depression.

Yeesh. The Bulls are 12 months into their rebuild.

Project 5 years ahead Duck. Who are we gonna beat? Maybe we'll have Lebron by then.

Your question makes my point. How am I supposed to know what the East will look like in 5 years?

I’ll say it again. The Bulls are 365 days into a complete roster overhaul and rebuild. Your “never win the east because we picked WCJ” is just so ludicrous that I think even you would realize it in sort of a self deprecating way.

[TheSuzerain]

I see 1 (bench) player on that list that was there Before Horford...

And does it really matter what order you get your All-Stars in?

Point being, people don't see a team capable of winning the East. Hence, depression.

Yeesh. The Bulls are 12 months into their rebuild.

You should be pissed about this season.

You were very clear that the primary reason to blow it up was to tank and land that star. That was a complete failure.

[Red Larrivee]

Carter isn't big for a C, he's ok sized. He's not Embiid or Ayton or any of the legit legit 7' guys.

I get that. So, he's not tall for his position, but he's got good size and strength, wingspan and reach for the position. I think it's fair to question his mobility in space, but overall I wouldn't say he's slow at the position either.

He's not wide. He doesn't take up or command space. Robin Lopez is a massive person. Carter doesn't have that size.

Lopez is listed at 270 pounds. Why would we want a young center to be that big going forward? We can't even play Lopez against smaller lineups. 6'10, 253 is good size. Joel Embiid is listed at 250 right now.

[kyrv]

Excellent, welcome and good luck Wendell!!

[bennjuiced34]

Carter is a really, really, really good player and prospect. At 7, he's great value. The problem, and I kind of understand it, is the tank led to this and people were hoping for me. Which goes back to Niko screwing everything up.

[fleet]

Yeesh. The Bulls are 12 months into their rebuild.

Project 5 years ahead Duck. Who are we gonna beat? Maybe we'll have Lebron by then.

Your question makes my point. How am I supposed to know what the East will look like in 5 years?

I’ll say it again. The Bulls are 365 days into a complete roster overhaul and rebuild. Your “never win the east because we picked WCJ” is just so ludicrous that I think even you would realize it in sort of a self deprecating way.

I never said it like that. Strawman

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[DanTown8587]

I get that. So, he's not tall for his position, but he's got good size and strength, wingspan and reach for the position. I think it's fair to question his mobility in space, but overall I wouldn't say he's slow at the position either.

He's not wide. He doesn't take up or command space. Robin Lopez is a massive person. Carter doesn't have that size.

Lopez is listed at 270 pounds. Why would we want a young center to be that big going forward? We can't even play Lopez against smaller lineups. 6'10, 253 is good size. Joel Embiid is listed at 250 right now.

It's not weight, it's ability to move guys in or out of the paint or be quick. C usually fall in to two buckets: wide shoulders with great girth and size or leaner guys with great speed. To me, Carter is kind of neither of those but a little of both but to me that isn't the advantage that others may see in it.

I just don't see the elite thing Carter has that most C need to have.

[RastaBull]

My gut reaction was a little worrying, that this was a safe pick ... when many of us wanted to hold out hope for a swing for fences pick.

But I know from experience not to trust my gut lmao...

His potential to go off into superstar level is certainly less than rest of top 7. But tbh, if he does tap into that, his style of play and impact as a superstar would be one of the most impressive imo. So, I'll hold out hope for that and root for him to grow each year and take monster leaps by his 3rd year.

I'm crossing my fingers hoping he plays at a level to get all-rookie 1st team. That would be INCREDIBLE considering the bigs drafted before him. And it would obviously mean he and Laurie are maximizing their pairing.

Really though, all I care about in the immediate (first year/second year) is that he comes out better than Bagley hehe

[DuckIII]

Point being, people don't see a team capable of winning the East. Hence, depression.

Yeesh. The Bulls are 12 months into their rebuild.

You should be pissed about this season.

You were very clear that the primary reason to blow it up was to tank and land that star. That was a complete failure.

Are you under the impression I’m happy we picked 7th? I’m not. But given that it happened, I like the pick.

[FecesOfDeath]

A bigger, better passing Taj Gibson. He's going to complement and fit with Lauri very well.

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[League Circles]

Point being, people don't see a team capable of winning the East. Hence, depression.

Yeesh. The Bulls are 12 months into their rebuild.

You should be pissed about this season.

You were very clear that the primary reason to blow it up was to tank and land that star. That was a complete failure.

Well that is twofold. On one hand the Bulls did not do a good enough job tanking. I never thought they were going to do a good enough job and that was why I never supported the effort. But there's no reason to think that Carter is a bad pig at 7. You shouldn't expect Superstars or even stars at 7. That's just reality. If you can get a good starter you've done very well. If you can get 5 good starters in this league you can contend for championships. It's rare but we probably have between 1 and 4 good starter's eventually already on our roster. Obviously you take some luck and acquiring some more talent but you do not need Superstars to compete for championships. But if you do not have one you definitely need four or five good starters which almost no team ever has.

[fleet]

Yeesh. The Bulls are 12 months into their rebuild.

You should be pissed about this season.

You were very clear that the primary reason to blow it up was to tank and land that star. That was a complete failure.

Are you under the impression I’m happy we picked 7th? I’m not. But given that it happened, I like the pick.

I do too. Probably wrong position. Maybe BPA, IDK.

[thewraith]

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I wonder if Young was available would they have taken him if they were still thinking about taking a pg?

[ozbull]

Still, even if he didn't play a game for two years, I would have taken the chance on Porter Jr.

I’m confident that back or no back, people will realize in time that MPJ just wasn’t a special prospect. One of the most overhyped players I’d seen. Ever.

Won't be disappointed if you're right, but we'll file away for a discussion in 5-6 years .

[bad knees]

WCJ will be a strong contributor and will work well with Lauri. The question is, when other teams go small, can both of them stay on the floor? My initial conclusion is no, but we will see. Surely the Bulls were aware of this issue too.


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[nitetrain8603]

I rather have gone with Mitchell Robinson.

[DuckIII]

Still, even if he didn't play a game for two years, I would have taken the chance on Porter Jr.

I’m confident that back or no back, people will realize in time that MPJ just wasn’t a special prospect. One of the most overhyped players I’d seen. Ever.

Won't be disappointed if you're right, but we'll file away for a discussion in 5-6 years .

It won’t take that long. I think as soon as he gets a full season healthy it will be obvious if the hype was real or fluff. Elite prospects look elite.

[League Circles]

He's not wide. He doesn't take up or command space. Robin Lopez is a massive person. Carter doesn't have that size.

Lopez is listed at 270 pounds. Why would we want a young center to be that big going forward? We can't even play Lopez against smaller lineups. 6'10, 253 is good size. Joel Embiid is listed at 250 right now.

It's not weight, it's ability to move guys in or out of the paint or be quick. C usually fall in to two buckets: wide shoulders with great girth and size or leaner guys with great speed. To me, Carter is kind of neither of those but a little of both but to me that isn't the advantage that others may see in it.

I just don't see the elite thing Carter has that most C need to have.

Most centers need to do something elite because they suck balls at one or more things that they need to balance out. Carter doesn't. If he can just be above-average at 3/4 of the attributes of his game he can be a top 10 Center in this league for many years.