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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#281 » by Leslie Forman » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:53 am

MGB8 wrote:WCJ compares very closely as a prospect to Indiana’s Myles Turner. Almost identical size, similarly middling athleticism, Turner a better and quicker shooter, especially from midrange: while Carter a bit better in the post.

Myles Turner is a far better athlete. If anything Carter is closer to Sabonis.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#282 » by TheJordanRule » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:53 am

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TheStig wrote:Haha, I really wanted Porter. He was the only one who was going to be a star. Boom or bust is better than a mediocre C.

Isn't Hutchinson and athletic wing? Decent shooter, good defender?


I feel you on the boom or bust star over a mediocre C. Just remember THIS mediocre C is only 19 with immediate NBA-ready skills on BOTH ends of the floor. But this is why I quit following the draft so closely. The team often goes a completely different route than what you hope. My only issue with Hutch is, what's the difference between him and Blakeney or Nwaba? We're getting obsessed with "great motor" 3 and D wings who don't actually bring much to the table. I'd have preferred a Euro stash or youngster with huge tools because I favor chasing star potential the same way you do.

If we didn't have Lauri. I'd be cool with the pick. If he had an elite talent like Bamba, I'd be cool. But honestly, they just overlap and I wanted Porter. I'm a bit bummed we couldn't trade up to 14 by eating Faried's deal.


OMG stealing him at #14 that way would have been epic. Unfortunately this FO has no creativity. That would have made too much good sense.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#283 » by MGB8 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:56 am

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MGB8 wrote:WCJ compares very closely as a prospect to Indiana’s Myles Turner. Almost identical size, similarly middling athleticism, Turner a better and quicker shooter, especially from midrange: while Carter a bit better in the post.

Myles Turner is a far better athlete. If anything Carter is closer to Sabonis.


Not really, no. Turner was knocked for the same lack of plus athleticism Carter gets knocked for, similar college tapes. Turner on offense has a quicker release and less of an old man’s game than Carter, so it might look like he is more athletic on that end, but they are very comparable.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#284 » by Flopper » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:58 am

Maybe he was the BPA, but I'm not real comfortable taking a 5 with mobility issues in the top 10.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#285 » by TheStig » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:00 am

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I feel you on the boom or bust star over a mediocre C. Just remember THIS mediocre C is only 19 with immediate NBA-ready skills on BOTH ends of the floor. But this is why I quit following the draft so closely. The team often goes a completely different route than what you hope. My only issue with Hutch is, what's the difference between him and Blakeney or Nwaba? We're getting obsessed with "great motor" 3 and D wings who don't actually bring much to the table. I'd have preferred a Euro stash or youngster with huge tools because I favor chasing star potential the same way you do.

If we didn't have Lauri. I'd be cool with the pick. If he had an elite talent like Bamba, I'd be cool. But honestly, they just overlap and I wanted Porter. I'm a bit bummed we couldn't trade up to 14 by eating Faried's deal.


OMG stealing him at #14 that way would have been epic. Unfortunately this FO has no creativity. That would have made too much good sense.

I couldn't believe it. Even 14 and Faried for 22 would have been great if you got Porter.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#286 » by Leslie Forman » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:05 am

MGB8 wrote:
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MGB8 wrote:WCJ compares very closely as a prospect to Indiana’s Myles Turner. Almost identical size, similarly middling athleticism, Turner a better and quicker shooter, especially from midrange: while Carter a bit better in the post.

Myles Turner is a far better athlete. If anything Carter is closer to Sabonis.


Not really, no. Turner was knocked for the same lack of plus athleticism Carter gets knocked for, similar college tapes. Turner on offense has a quicker release and less of an old man’s game than Carter, so it might look like he is more athletic on that end, but they are very comparable.

No, people were strangely obsessed with his weird running style. He was thought of as stiff actually. Nobody thought he was straight up slow and unexplosive. Carter is seen as perfectly fluid and mobile but slow.

Frankly it doesn't even matter, because Myles Turner is nothing special. If Wendell Carter is Myles Turner, well that's not really that great.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#287 » by 3noD » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:08 am

Chitownbulls wrote:How much money do the Bulls have invested in the center position now?

Lopez- 12mil?
Asik- 10mil?
Felicio- 8mil?

Lopez and Asik are bound to be traded


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Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#288 » by RebuildaBulls » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:09 am

Only difference between Bagley and Carter is Bagley got more playing time and shots , other than that their advanced stats are similar with Bagley being better offensively and Carter better defensively
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#289 » by TheJordanRule » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:12 am

TheStig wrote:
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TheStig wrote:If we didn't have Lauri. I'd be cool with the pick. If he had an elite talent like Bamba, I'd be cool. But honestly, they just overlap and I wanted Porter. I'm a bit bummed we couldn't trade up to 14 by eating Faried's deal.


OMG stealing him at #14 that way would have been epic. Unfortunately this FO has no creativity. That would have made too much good sense.

I couldn't believe it. Even 14 and Faried for 22 would have been great if you got Porter.


A draft where we added WCJ and MPJ would have been an A+ draft night. The safe pick along with the boom or bust star. Bulls fans would have gone crazy. I know I would have.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#290 » by Truebiscuit » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:12 am

My goodness some of the negativity being thrown around this kid. Let's give him, I dunno, ONE game to see how he fits/will be used on this team before we call him boring/low-ceiling/bust.

We have a modern, large front court that can shoot the 3 (assuming this translates for WCJ of course).
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#291 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:14 am

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TeamMan wrote:I keep saying it, but Horford is a PF, and so is Carter.

Horford has never played pf. As a pro


True, but that should not stop him from continually saying it.


Horford played PF for the majority of his time in Atlanta. At his insistence.

Edit: And Carter’s going to be a C. Not sure how anyone sees PF speed or ball skills.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#292 » by R3AL1TY » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:15 am

MPJ's back may be the reason why the Bulls did not get Bamba. I think the Magic would have went with him. I still like Carter.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#293 » by TheHrvReport » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:16 am

I just can't get excited about this pick guys. I feel like we just drafted Taj Gibson in an 19 year olds body...inb4 someone comments " a 19-year old Taj Gibson is a GREAT player though!!" :banghead:
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Post#294 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:18 am

Solid role player. Nothing special, hate to say it.
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Post#295 » by RememberLu » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:21 am

TheHrvReport wrote:I just can't get excited about this pick guys. I feel like we just drafted Taj Gibson in an 19 year olds body...inb4 someone comments " a 19-year old Taj Gibson is a GREAT player though!!" :banghead:


WCJ's offense is much more advanced than Taj's
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#296 » by Jcool0 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:21 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
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Indomitable wrote:Horford has never played pf. As a pro


True, but that should not stop him from continually saying it.


Horford played PF for the majority of his time in Atlanta. At his insistence.

Edit: And Carter’s going to be a C. Not sure how anyone sees PF speed or ball skills.


What? Horford played C 86% of the time in Atlanta.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#297 » by waffle » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:21 am

I like him better than most.

He's a big strong lad and will get bigger and stronger.

He plays solid at both ends of the court.

He blocks shots! he gets assists! He's GOOD AROUND THE BASKET (something we need desperately). He has decent handles for a big. He is a SOLID defensive rebounder which I love.

The only knock is foot speed? He's a 5. And he's 19. And he seems like a modest good kid. It all works for me
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#298 » by Benedict Miller » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:23 am

I won't say Carter's a great defender yet, but he does offer rim protection. Solid all around game, prefer him to get better on the defensive end and be a little more demanding of the ball in the post. Nevertheless, he's a good addition to this basketball team along with Hutchison.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#299 » by Leslie Forman » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:23 am

Carter
Markkanen
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Lopez
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This roster basically has six centers on it. Is…is this the new Sacramento?
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Post#300 » by Mbrahv0528 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:25 am

Jcool0 wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
kyrv wrote:
True, but that should not stop him from continually saying it.


Horford played PF for the majority of his time in Atlanta. At his insistence.

Edit: And Carter’s going to be a C. Not sure how anyone sees PF speed or ball skills.


What? Horford played C 86% of the time in Atlanta.
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