The Troy Brown Thread

[Dat2U]

we needed another wing regardless because otto NEEDS to start at PF next year, which fixes 50% of our frontcourt problem. Also, NBA centers are getting played off the court no matter how good they are. It will look like this hopefully:

Wall Sato
Beal
Oubre Brown
Porter

plenty of backup 2/3/4 minutes and lots of versatility with 3 legit wings with 7ft wingspans. I'm actually starting to love this pick.

I doubt Sato is the backup PG next year. Brooks has made it pretty clear he's looking for something else. I think they possibly want Lawson back. Probably Scott too.

Wall / Lawson?
Beal / Sato / Meeks
Porter / Oubre / Brown
Morris / Scott?
Mahinmi / Smith / Gortat

I doubt either return though you might be able to get Lawson back for cheap considering his past. Mike Scott served his purpose. Let him go for a bigger deal.

Oh I wouldn't bring Scott back ... I'm just surmising what ErnDogg is probably thinking.

[ptptpt]

He'll fit. But he's not a value pick. No way.

[NatP4]

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[DCZards]

I like this pick honestly. Another wing, should allow us to play small ball more. Start Wall Beal Oubre Porter with Brown as a backup wing. Can never go wrong with picking guys that play hard and have high character.

I like his potential also because his jumpsuit looks good even with the low%, and he's smart. only 18 for another month.

How do you justify this kind of pick when we already have Otto and Oubre, it was literally the last thing we needed and Williams was there.

I wanted the Zards to draft Williams. We needed (and still need) a young big. But I don't have a problem adding a wing, especially one who reportedly has a high motor, a great bball IQ, the ability to guard multiple positions and decent playmaking skills. And he's only 18 years old.

The Zards may have considered Brown the BPA. We'll see.

[miller31time]

Hold the phone. You’re telling me Ernie didn’t hit a home run when not being gifted a lotto pick?

In the NBA Draft?

Our Ernie?

But....his track record is so stellar!

[miller31time]

Whether you think Brown *might* actually become a semi-decent player or not, the simple fact remains that he’s an absolute reach at 15 and we could have traded down and gotten some value for the pick.

But that would require a GM that...uhh...can generally manage things.

[NatP4]

Whether you think Brown *might* actually become a semi-decent player or not, the simple fact remains that he’s an absolute reach at 15 and we could have traded down and gotten some value for the pick.

But that would require a GM that...uhh...can generally manage things.

you don't know that, most people projected him at the 15-20 range, maybe Phoenix loved him at 16 right behind us.

you are probably right seeing as the reports pre draft were "wizards looking to trade back if a team takes on expiring contracts"

who knows

[miller31time]

Whether you think Brown *might* actually become a semi-decent player or not, the simple fact remains that he’s an absolute reach at 15 and we could have traded down and gotten some value for the pick.

But that would require a GM that...uhh...can generally manage things.

you don't know that, most people projected him at the 15-20 range, maybe Phoenix loved him at 16 right behind us.

you are probably right seeing as the reports pre draft were "wizards looking to trade back if a team takes on expiring contracts"

who knows

No one knows anything. All we have are our best judgements and to play the percentages. We didn’t and it landed us a big-time reach. I get that you like him, and that’s awesome. I hope he does well. But we reached.

And if, contrary to everybody and their momma, Brown was going to be selected in the next few picks, then we would have taken someone else who could contribute and was projected higher than Brown anyway.

A very Grunfeldian move which involves classic panicking, overthinking, reaching and an obvious lack of planning or general team construction.

[dangermouse]

When the nba draft hangover wears off, im gonna root for the guy of course. But mark my words, maybe not straight away. but we are gonna regret this pick when we look back at the NBA Draft 2018.

[AFM]

This guy will be the next LeBron. You can screenshot this.

[jangles86]

Disregarding what number pick he was and disregarding how many wings we have on the roster... I really like what this kid could bring. A lot of upside and looks very strong with pretty decent ball IQ. That sortve stuff is the anti Oubre.

[AFM]

I like this kid!!!!

https://youtu.be/1r_3Tf34SEE

I’m on mobile, someone pls embed

[queridiculo]

Basketball player lauded for high bball IQ blames poor shooting percentage on shot selection?

Yeah, that adds up... I don't like the pick at all, happy to have him prove me wrong though.

Will probably be a year or two before he'll even crack the rotation, so in a sense it's a great Ernie move.

[Wiz99]

I know this board hates EG (count me in), but I don’t mind a who-knows-what-his-ceiling-is / on-the other-hand-might-be-out-of-NBA-in-4-years type of pick at this place in the draft.

There’s very few examples of quality guys drafted in the 15-25 range. About 1 per year.
2017: Anunoby (TOR 23rd)
2016: none
2015: Oubre (ATL—>WAS 15th)
2014: Nurkic (CHI—>DEN 16th)
2013: Giannis (MIL 15th), Schroder (ATL 17th)
2012: None
2011: Kawhi (SAS 15th), Vucevic (PHI 16th), Mirotic (HOU—>MIN—>CHI 23rd)

Edit: spelling

[Wizardspride]

we needed another wing regardless because otto NEEDS to start at PF next year, which fixes 50% of our frontcourt problem. Also, NBA centers are getting played off the court no matter how good they are. It will look like this hopefully:

Wall Sato
Beal
Oubre Brown
Porter

plenty of backup 2/3/4 minutes and lots of versatility with 3 legit wings with 7ft wingspans. I'm actually starting to love this pick.

Stickman Otto cannot match-up with most PF's and Brooks is not going to play these 3 guys together. You KNOW John is saying WTF is happening here. You're just trying to rationalize the pick.

seriously just chill and think for a second, 3 wing players with 7ft wingspans that can defend and rebound. They are building that depth.

I agree. It's basically the Celtics blueprint.

[I_Like_Dirt]

Yeah, I like this pick. I mean, he isn't the next Giannis, but I think he's good. The problem I have is that the Wizards don't make more picks and instead rely on trying to have a single pick compensate for like 2 or 3 years' worth of picks.

And while I don't actually condone the idea of picking for need in general, really, the Wizards need everything anyway. They are not a deep team. And honestly, what they need the least are more PF/Cs that are going to increasingly struggle to adapt to the modern NBA. Mahinmi is done, let's be honest, and Gortat is reaching the end of his career, abut he also doesn't fit the modern NBA the same way he used to. Kieff should be a C, honestly, and the team should be rotating wings like Porter at PF sometimes, and potentially playing 2-PG sets and things like that. They absolutely need more guards and wings in the worst way. Really, it just matters if Brown is good or not, but I think he's a solid pick here.

[NatP4]

I like this kid!!!!

https://youtu.be/1r_3Tf34SEE

I’m on mobile, someone pls embed

Watch on YouTube

[verbal8]

I know there was a big risk there, but I wish the Wizards could have moved up a spot or 2 to grab Micheal Porter Jr.

I also think there may have been a scenario where they could have picked a more highly rated prospect and traded down for Troy Brown.

[I_Like_Dirt]

I know there was a big risk there, but I wish the Wizards could have moved up a spot or 2 to grab Micheal Porter Jr.

I also think there may have been a scenario where they could have picked a more highly rated prospect and traded down for Troy Brown.

Porter would have been interesting. His back surgery is potentially a big problem, though, from what I understand. And I'm also not sure that Brown would have been available later. He might have been, but it's generally tough to say.

And really, while Brown isn't going to be part of the rotation this season, and I expect Ernie to continue being Ernie and trading picks more often than not, people need to look at teams like the Celtics and Raptors and see how many wings they have. The Wizards need more players like him, not less. I'd have been pretty saddened if the Wizards took Williams and demonstrated a continued lack of understanding of where the modern NBA is heading.

[dckingsfan]

I like this pick honestly. Another wing, should allow us to play small ball more. Start Wall Beal Oubre Porter with Brown as a backup wing. Can never go wrong with picking guys that play hard and have high character.

I like his potential also because his jumpshot looks good even with the low%, and he's smart. only 18 for another month.

But you know we won't play small ball... he will just sit glued to the bench.