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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#161 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:32 pm

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CatgutStitches wrote:Yeah...luckily your opinions have no effect on my enjoyment of following the Hornets, apart from making this forum a little harder to slog through, so I will not be coming here to "roast" anyone, regardless of how he works out, or doesnt.


Same, I'm embarrassed at some of the reactions. If we are ever fortunate enough to bring home an NBA Title someone on here would find something negative to say about the championship parade.


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I'd hope the mod team wound just ban them. I appreciate healthy skepticism (this organization deserves it), but outright cynical nihilism isn't worth listening to. It's like baby babbling to me, it goes in one ear and out the other. But unlike babbling that can at least be cute sometimes, aggressive cynics are just an annoyance.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#162 » by Robot Rock » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:37 pm

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CatgutStitches wrote:Yeah...luckily your opinions have no effect on my enjoyment of following the Hornets, apart from making this forum a little harder to slog through, so I will not be coming here to "roast" anyone, regardless of how he works out, or doesnt.


Same, I'm embarrassed at some of the reactions. If we are ever fortunate enough to bring home an NBA Title someone on here would find something negative to say about the championship parade.


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I'd hope the mod team wound just ban them. I appreciate healthy skepticism (this organization deserves it), but outright cynical nihilism isn't worth listening to. It's like baby babbling to me, it goes in one ear and out the other. But unlike babbling that can at least be cute sometimes, aggressive cynics are just an annoyance.


I've got a lot more facts in my corner than you do in yours, so while you're welcome to refer to what I've said as cynical nihilism, it doesn't make it wrong just because you don't like it. I don't see things through rose-colored glasses, and I call a spade a spade. I don't care who doesn't like it.

If I get banned for stating my opinion while breaking no rules, that says a lot more about this board than it does about me.

In fact, if you go back through the recent history of this board, I've vehemently defended Kemba, Monk and Zeller from numerous haters and self-aggrandizing types like yourself.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#163 » by TheKingofSting » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:49 pm

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LofJ wrote:
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Same, I'm embarrassed at some of the reactions. If we are ever fortunate enough to bring home an NBA Title someone on here would find something negative to say about the championship parade.


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I'd hope the mod team wound just ban them. I appreciate healthy skepticism (this organization deserves it), but outright cynical nihilism isn't worth listening to. It's like baby babbling to me, it goes in one ear and out the other. But unlike babbling that can at least be cute sometimes, aggressive cynics are just an annoyance.


I've got a lot more facts in my corner than you do in yours, so while you're welcome to refer to what I've said as cynical nihilism, it doesn't make it wrong just because you don't like it. I don't see things through rose-colored glasses, and I call a spade a spade. I don't care who doesn't like it.

If I get banned for stating my opinion while breaking no rules, that says a lot more about this board than it does about me.

In fact, if you go back through the recent history of this board, I've vehemently defended Kemba, Monk and Zeller from numerous haters and self-aggrandizing types like yourself.


No one ever called a name. You are not the only person on the forum but I'm bowing out because this conversation isn't going anywhere that will end well.


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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#164 » by predators » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:06 pm

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CatgutStitches wrote::lol: Man, I couldn't wait to get on here this morning, and you guys did not disappoint!

This was a great pick considering our position. I did kinda want Porter, even with his many flags, just to swing for the fences, but Miles is going to be a damn good player. Everyone is so obsessed with measurables, but last I checked the combine doesn't win games, playing basketball does. I love how people have been screaming for Batum or MKG to play PF for us for the last few years, but somehow Miles is too small to do it? That's just dumb. He will be a better NBA player than college player, and he was a damn good college player.

Did you see the ESPN draft comparisons? SGA got MCW, Miles got Larry Johnson...who would you rather have? lol.

All the tweener talk is ridiculous in todays positionless landscape, you people are just looking for a reason to bitch so you can temper your expectations and be self-righteous if we don't do well. The guy is a fiery, versatile, ambidextrous, explosive dunk machine with a solid 3 point stroke on high volume. If he was 2 inches taller he'd be tabbed the next superstar, so how bout we just sit back and watch....I know I'm pretty damn excited to watch him and Monk play together.


I'd take MCW over Larry Johnson in a heartbeat. MCW has length and that's what wins. Winning. It's all about winning.


Miles is 6' 6" with a 6 9 wing span, he has the same dimensions as Klay Thompson. Batum is 6'7 with a 7 foot wingspan and MKG is a 6 7 with a 6 10 wingspan, I would still rather see them guard pfs then Bridges. Every nba scout told him to lose weight prior to the draft because there was no way he would play the 4 at the next level.

ESPN also had SGA ranked ahead of Miles in their draft rankings, so I don't know why people even bring up player comparisons. With that logic we should have taken Porter Jr since he's apparently Kevin Durant.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#165 » by predators » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:07 pm

this was a misclick
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#166 » by CatgutStitches » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:14 pm

And Charles Barkley was 6'5" and played in an era of 7' PFs...so what? We are so obsessed with measureables...screw that, watch him play basketball!

So even though he's stronger and more explosive than MKG, just because he's an inch shorter there's no way he can guard PFs? Not to mention that todays PFs are basically wings.

Doesn't really matter, I guess we will see here soon :P
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#167 » by catch20two » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:18 pm

This draft pick will haunt the Charlotte franchise from now into hindsight.

I believe SGA will be the better player that would’ve been very complimentary to Monk in the starting lineup.

Also there’s the possibility that Porter Jr will reach his ceiling and expectations of himself before injuries deterred his one-and-done season at Mizzou.

There’s no upside to drafting Miles Bridges, only hope that he could be a valuable rotation player. It’s goIng to be interesting to see what position he can defend in the NBA. If I had to make a educated guess on where I think he’d fare better it would be PF but I still expect him to struggle in that aspect. And that’s without mentioning that I’ve noticed a questionable shot selection and efficiency with him on the college level.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#168 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:18 pm

Robot Rock wrote:Mitch is already a failure, but he's here for life bc muh Tar Heals.

Just pick a few Carolina rejects in the second round and bet the rest on black.


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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#169 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:21 pm

JMAC3 wrote:He isn’t good at any one thing. Can’t wait for him to shoot 43 percent from the field, 33 from three with 11 points and 4 rebounds.... what a steal


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I don't think this will happen but is my biggest fear is he is just mediocre at everything.
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Post#170 » by TheKingofSting » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:23 pm

I went back just for funzies to this mock:

How he fits: The Wizards would be giddy to snag Bridges here, as the high-character prospect will bring a level of competitiveness, physicality and explosiveness to D.C. The Wizards already ranked fourth in the NBA in transition efficiency last season, and Bridges would give John Wall another high flyer in the open floor as well as a wing defender to take some pressure off Otto Porter and Kelly Oubre. He's at his best in a complementary role while playing the small-ball 4 spot, which he'll be able to do alongside more ball-dominant guards like Wall and Beal. -SCHMITZ


http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/23794672/2018-nba-mock-draft-perfect-picks-every-team

Spot on with his abilities and traits (except the complimentary role opinion) but they frankly got lazy and lowballed him with the comparisons in the link.


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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#171 » by amcoolio » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:28 pm

I love that people are saying that Miles is a bad pick because lack of potential and "not good at any one thing" but those people wanted SGA, who also lacks potential, isn't good at any one thing, and is also very slow, lumbering, and nonathletic compared to Miles

Lets face the facts. The Hornets wanted Knox, he was gone. Then they wanted Sexton, he was gone. So they picked Miles. There isn't another player at 11 they could have taken that had as much potential than Miles. Michael Porter? Did you see him last night? He looked like the tin-man trying to go up and down the stairs. Do you really want to take a player with such a bad back? Look at all our injury history over the past 10 years.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#172 » by CatgutStitches » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:35 pm

I think a lot of my problem is I just don't see the same things you negative nancy's are seeing, maybe you could help me out?

I see NO evidence of this low-ceiling/safe pick you are talking about, nor do I see a guy who is not good at anything. I think he needs to work on his decision making and his mid-range game, but that's pretty standard for a rookie. I see ELITE explosion and leaping ability; phenomenal strength for a 20 year old; a guy who is comfortable at the rim or behind the arc, as well as rolling or popping; can post up wings or out-quick bigs and switch on everything...the only real weakness I'm seeing is some nearly meaningless numbers next to height and wingspan... (and again, he's almost identical to MKG in size but stronger and everyone seems to want him to be our PF) I just don't see the problem, please educate me.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#173 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:46 pm

CatgutStitches wrote:I think a lot of my problem is I just don't see the same things you negative nancy's are seeing, maybe you could help me out?

I see NO evidence of this low-ceiling/safe pick you are talking about, nor do I see a guy who is not good at anything. I think he needs to work on his decision making and his mid-range game, but that's pretty standard for a rookie. I see ELITE explosion and leaping ability; phenomenal strength for a 20 year old; a guy who is comfortable at the rim or behind the arc, as well as rolling or popping; can post up wings or out-quick bigs and switch on everything...the only real weakness I'm seeing is some nearly meaningless numbers next to height and wingspan... (and again, he's almost identical to MKG in size but stronger and everyone seems to want him to be our PF) I just don't see the problem, please educate me.


my main issue is he is a 6 6 (6 9 wingspan) PF in a league where most 4s will have at least 3 or 4 inches on him. So I worry he's going to get killed on defense and unless he's truly a 3P sharpshooter or an explosive iso scorer (bad A/TO ratio) he's going to be a meh player. Now maybe he can truly surprise me on defense and overcome the size difference.

EDIT: I should add he was my second fave player remaining after MPJ, just not enamored with him. I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#174 » by tondi123 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:00 pm

Honestly if the guy becomes a solid rotation player and were to average double figures as a rookie it would be hard to complain for a #12 pick. Can't really expect much more from that spot most of the time.
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Post#175 » by CatgutStitches » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:00 pm

Yeah, theres no way a guy the size of Draymond Green could guard todays 4's.... ;)

I get the skepticism about his length, but I just don't think its that big of a deal. He's just as strong as Draymond coming out of college and he's WAAAAY more athletic and explosive. I'm not saying he will be a defensive stalwart, but he has plenty of tools, not to mention those same players have to figure out how to guard him on offense. Do I wish he was 6'10"? sure, but hes not. I don't know why, I just have a good feeling about him, and I LOVE his fit with Monk. I'm a big fan of positional versatility.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#176 » by predators » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:04 pm

CatgutStitches wrote:I think a lot of my problem is I just don't see the same things you negative nancy's are seeing, maybe you could help me out?

I see NO evidence of this low-ceiling/safe pick you are talking about, nor do I see a guy who is not good at anything. I think he needs to work on his decision making and his mid-range game, but that's pretty standard for a rookie. I see ELITE explosion and leaping ability; phenomenal strength for a 20 year old; a guy who is comfortable at the rim or behind the arc, as well as rolling or popping; can post up wings or out-quick bigs and switch on everything...the only real weakness I'm seeing is some nearly meaningless numbers next to height and wingspan... (and again, he's almost identical to MKG in size but stronger and everyone seems to want him to be our PF) I just don't see the problem, please educate me.


I think he's too slow laterally to guard 3s and too small to guard 4s which will make him only a + player on the floor in niche situations even if hits some threes and gets some highlight dunks in transition. I don't think any of his halfcourt inside game will really translate to the nba level.

Just seems like all of our players except Batum/Lamb are either undersized for their position or can't shoot, and he is another player that falls into that dichotomy.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#177 » by predators » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:05 pm

CatgutStitches wrote:Yeah, theres no way a guy the size of Draymond Green could guard todays 4's.... ;)

I get the skepticism about his length, but I just don't think its that big of a deal. He's just as strong as Draymond coming out of college and he's WAAAAY more athletic and explosive. I'm not saying he will be a defensive stalwart, but he has plenty of tools, not to mention those same players have to figure out how to guard him on offense. Do I wish he was 6'10"? sure, but hes not. I don't know why, I just have a good feeling about him, and I LOVE his fit with Monk. I'm a big fan of positional versatility.


Draymond Green's wingspan is 7'1". I don't think it's a good comparison at all.
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Post#179 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:13 pm

Yet we agonized over Clifford's attempts to exploit size advantages while shelving skills. Batum at SG. Dwight acquisition. Monk never with Kemba. Trying to make Cody a stretch 4. Frank more minutes at backup PF vs backup center. Not to mention drafting Biz, Vonleh, MKG.

Mock Miles measureables all you want.

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Re: Welcome to Charlotte - Miles Bridges 

Post#180 » by CatgutStitches » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:14 pm

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CatgutStitches wrote:Yeah, theres no way a guy the size of Draymond Green could guard todays 4's.... ;)

I get the skepticism about his length, but I just don't think its that big of a deal. He's just as strong as Draymond coming out of college and he's WAAAAY more athletic and explosive. I'm not saying he will be a defensive stalwart, but he has plenty of tools, not to mention those same players have to figure out how to guard him on offense. Do I wish he was 6'10"? sure, but hes not. I don't know why, I just have a good feeling about him, and I LOVE his fit with Monk. I'm a big fan of positional versatility.


Draymond Green's wingspan is 7'1". I don't think it's a good comparison at all.


Way to edit you calling it "dumb" lol. So a couple inches in standing reach and a few inches of wingspan is not made up for by the vast difference in athleticism, in fact they are still so much more important that the comparison is "dumb". OK, just making sure. Why doesn't everyone just draft only tall guys with long arms and not bother with anyone else? They are clearly wasting their time.

He's not overly quick, but he certainly isn't slow. He's far more athletic than most 4's in the NBA I'd say. He's not ideal to put on a wing on the perimeter, but MKG is and how has that worked out? He's plenty big and quick enough to switch on anyone. I don't think he will ever be an all NBA defender, but I don't think it will be a glaring weakness either. I also think his offense will make up for it. The Draymond reference was simply for their size, it is simply overblown.

The fact is, we don't know how anyone is going to turn out, but to be all down in the dumps about a guy because hes short for the traditional image of his likely position is kind of silly. But whatever, if you guys want to be all doom and gloom have at it, I'm just ready to enjoy some dunks and 3 pointers.

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