The Time Lord: Welcome Robert Williams!

[Darth Celtic]

Did capela have a 40 inch vertical? That's pretty high for a big man.

[Bad-Thoma]

So another lazy and small PF-C like yabusele and sullinger, ainge looks obsessed with these. He doesn't look fat at least, in the draft yabusele wasn't as fat as now tho, so who knows.

You're **** high if you think Yabs is lazy, he might be raw but he is all over the floor when he plays.

Lazy probably isn't quite the word for it, but undisciplined likely describes what led to Yabs taking so much weight out onto the floor with him when he got a shot to play in the NBA this season.

I don't think it hurts to keep the likes of Sully, Young, and Melo in mind as a reminder that Brad and Danny aren't miracle workers and there are some players that they just can't reach.

We certainly hope that RW isn't one of them and that he'll have a great career in Boston.

I don't know what the body fat % numbers are on Yabs and Sully but I'd happily wager that Yabs is way less. He's never going to look like a Brown or a Tatum with the more prototype basketball builds but he's not fat, he's not slow on his feet, and he can actually get up off the floor.

Actually, I just looked up Yab's body fat %,he has ranged from 9% down to 6%. He's not lazy, he's not fat, he's just a house. When they were drafted Yab's body fat % was reportedly the same as RJ Hunter. I know that was in 2016 but it goes to show that even then if you put him next to someone like an RJ or a Tatum he looks like a moose, his size is misleading.

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[Duke4life831]

The thing he needs most is structure. He is not the most mature guy. Like I was saying yesterday, known for throwing tantrums and doesn't necessarily act the part of a professional. I don't think staying out late and getting wasted on the biggest night of your life is a red flag, but i definitely think it does show that side of immaturity when compared to what the other 30 1st round guys are doing.

I just call it immaturity and not character issues because I can't think of ever hearing him get in trouble or him being a team cancer. But he definitely needs to mature up. I think being tossed into a team with Stevens as your head coach, Horford as a mature presence and two other young guys in Tatum and Brown that are mature beyond their years should really help him mature.

He has all the potential to be he next DJ or Capella, DJ had similar questions about him and he turned out fine. I think Williams is going to thrive in this situation. He's going to become an elite defensive big very quickly in my opinion.

[jmr07019]

What has me really excited is the talk about his lateral quickness, the quote from Robert about defense being the defining part of his game and him being fine not getting a lot of shots. Don't really care that he probably got wasted last night and had some fun but now it's time to get to work.

[threrf23]

The thing he needs most of structure. He is not the most mature guy. Like I was saying yesterday, known for throwing tantrums and doesn't necessarily act the part of a professional. I don't think staying out late and getting wasted on the biggest night of your life is a red flag, but i definitely think it does show that side of immaturity when compared to what the other 30 1st round guys are doing.

I just call it immaturity and not character issues because I can't think of ever hearing him get in trouble or him being a team cancer. But he definitely needs to mature up. I think being tossed into a team with Stevens as your head coach, Horford as a mature presence and two other young guys in Tatum and Brown that are mature beyond their years should really help him mature.

He has all the potential to be he next DJ or Capella, DJ had similar questions about him and he turned out fine. I think Williams is going to thrive in this situation. He's going to become an elite defensive big very quickly in my opinion.

You make him sound sort of like Boogie Cousins.

His stats suggest he's a lot less raw than DJ was.

Andre Drummond is another guy who comes to mind, who faced similar concerns.

I am a little bit curious as to potential knee/conditioning issues. Purportedly, he didn't participate at the combine and witheld medical records from teams.

[cloverleaf]

You're **** high if you think Yabs is lazy, he might be raw but he is all over the floor when he plays.

Lazy probably isn't quite the word for it, but undisciplined likely describes what led to Yabs taking so much weight out onto the floor with him when he got a shot to play in the NBA this season.

I don't think it hurts to keep the likes of Sully, Young, and Melo in mind as a reminder that Brad and Danny aren't miracle workers and there are some players that they just can't reach.

We certainly hope that RW isn't one of them and that he'll have a great career in Boston.

I don't know what the body fat % numbers are on Yabs and Sully but I'd happily wager that Yabs is way less. He's never going to look like a Brown or a Tatum with the more prototype basketball builds but he's not fat, he's not slow on his feet, and he can actually get up off the floor.

Actually, I just looked up Yab's body fat %,he has ranged from 9% down to 6%. He's not lazy, he's not fat, he's just a house. When they were drafted Yab's body fat % was reportedly the same as RJ Hunter. I know that was in 2016 but it goes to show that even then if you put him next to someone like an RJ or a Tatum he looks like a moose, his size is misleading.

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Both Yabs and Sully lost weight for when they got drafted. Both also seem to have the unfortunate pattern of putting on weight as the season goes on. I'm pretty sure that Yabs finished out this year fatter than Sully when he was "skinny", and I wouldn't be surprised if he approached the fat Sully level either.

Oh, and all kinds of not necessarily accurate ways to measure body fat. Yabs of course wasn't at the combine.

[lon3lytoaster]

I just really appreciate the fact he isn’t one of those wirey athletic bigs. 240+ is a dream with a 37-40inch vertical.

Hopefully helps separate him from the Sean Williams’s of the world.

[jfs1000d]

I just really appreciate the fact he isn’t one of those wirey athletic bigs. 240+ is a dream with a 37-40inch vertical.

Hopefully helps separate him from the Sean Williams’s of the world.

Agree here. Happy we don’t have a bean pole.

This kid looks like a terrific skill fit for the Celtics. Gotta beat our Baynes and Theis, but he does add stuff we don’t have.


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[Duke4life831]

The thing he needs most of structure. He is not the most mature guy. Like I was saying yesterday, known for throwing tantrums and doesn't necessarily act the part of a professional. I don't think staying out late and getting wasted on the biggest night of your life is a red flag, but i definitely think it does show that side of immaturity when compared to what the other 30 1st round guys are doing.

I just call it immaturity and not character issues because I can't think of ever hearing him get in trouble or him being a team cancer. But he definitely needs to mature up. I think being tossed into a team with Stevens as your head coach, Horford as a mature presence and two other young guys in Tatum and Brown that are mature beyond their years should really help him mature.

He has all the potential to be he next DJ or Capella, DJ had similar questions about him and he turned out fine. I think Williams is going to thrive in this situation. He's going to become an elite defensive big very quickly in my opinion.

You make him sound sort of like Boogie Cousins.

His stats suggest he's a lot less raw than DJ was.

Andre Drummond is another guy who comes to mind, who faced similar concerns.

I am a little bit curious as to potential knee/conditioning issues. Purportedly, he didn't participate at the combine and witheld medical records from teams.

No he's not Boogie. Boogie has always had a much stronger personality and there were always worries about him in the locker room.

To me the best way to put it is Robert Williams acts like a normal 20 years old. I think most of us were pretty immature when we were 20. He's just doesn't act like a professional yet and hasn't been coached up like most other prospects to be professional. So again no character issues, just immature compared to your normal rookie, especially compared to your last 2 rookies. He just needs structure to mature him up. Once he gets into that locker room and that culture, I don't think you will ever hear again of his immaturity. Now if he went to a LA or PHX I think it might be different. But again I don't think you will hear anything from this once he's part of the team and culture.

From all the things I heard about him when he was on the recruiting trail, he's a good kid. I haven't heard anything from his time in college that would change that.

[Shakey Deal]

Well, I'm probably the only Celtics fan who didn't like the pick. I'm aware that of the remaining players on the board he had the most "value", but I believe there's a reason he fell to 27. His BBIQ (right now) is lower than any of the other 59 draft picks, he doesn't seem to have any passion for the game, and his offensive game is painful to watch. His body measurements are great, but thats about the only positive I see in him. My guess is he's out of the league by the end of his rookie contract.

BTW I would've been down on many other possible picks Ainge could've made at 27. Most players drafted after the first 20 don't get to contribute in the NBA for long. My main point is I don't see the potential of a rotation player (you all see) in him, which is legitimate for a 27th pick.

[AzogTheDefilier]

Well, I'm probably the only Celtics fan who didn't like the pick. I'm aware that of the remaining players on the board he had the most "value", but I believe there's a reason he fell to 27. His BBIQ (right now) is lower than any of the other 59 draft picks, he doesn't seem to have any passion for the game, and his offensive game is painful to watch. His body measurements are great, but thats about the only positive I see in him. My guess is he's out of the league by the end of his rookie contract.

BTW I would've been down on many other possible picks Ainge could've made at 27. Most players drafted after the first 20 don't get to contribute in the NBA for long. My main point is I don't see the potential of a rotation player (you all see) in him, which is legitimate for a 27th pick.

You could be right but at 27 he is worth the gamble.

[Parasite]

You don’t see the potential of a 6’10” athletic freak at pick 27? Ok then.

[Slax]

Perk was younger, but I see what you are saying, he is a big bruiser, Perk is less athletic and heavier, but I agree a modern perk, a poor mans Clint Capela, etc.

I see Ben Wallace.

Yes, I mean as a modern 5th-man defensive starting center. But more to the point, a project to bring along in maturity and work ethic. Perk was that--and eventually became a team leader--so I'm hoping they can effect the same sort of transformation here. Sounds like he''s likable and even his stated reason for returning to college for a second year is to help his teammates.

I and1'd you just for the uncommon yet totally correct usage of effect as a verb.

[mbsnmisc]

My 2 cents:
He shot 59% FT's his freshman year, not great, but shows some potential as a shooter.
It sounds like his SO year was a ****. Not an excuse, but he is not a 4, especially on offense.
I think he is a more "natural" athlete than Capela.
Low BBIQ? He is a decent passer and shows a good sense of interior spacing to catch lobs, and board.
**** BEAST of a rebounder. Goes and gets it like no one on the current roster.
Looks competent handling the ball, much better than his comps.
Has that "Tristan Thompson" strength/bounce combo that lets him power up for boards, dunks, and blocks in traffic.
Not a beanpole. Can probably come into camp in 2019-20 near 250.
Natural defender. Some guys have it, some guys don't. 2X times SEC DPOY.
He is more DAJ than CC.
He fits into a role this year. He will probably play 750 minutes.
I will not predict PPG/REB/BLK numbers, but I hope he has at least a 0 DBPM and shoots 65% from floor and line.

I gathered all of this top shelf knowlege in less than 20 minutes on YouTube, so according to the RealGM TOS, I am an expert.

[bucknersrevenge]

Well, I'm probably the only Celtics fan who didn't like the pick. I'm aware that of the remaining players on the board he had the most "value", but I believe there's a reason he fell to 27. His BBIQ (right now) is lower than any of the other 59 draft picks, he doesn't seem to have any passion for the game, and his offensive game is painful to watch. His body measurements are great, but thats about the only positive I see in him. My guess is he's out of the league by the end of his rookie contract.

BTW I would've been down on many other possible picks Ainge could've made at 27. Most players drafted after the first 20 don't get to contribute in the NBA for long. My main point is I don't see the potential of a rotation player (you all see) in him, which is legitimate for a 27th pick.

So I'm not sure what you're saying here. Would you have preferred that we trade the pick instead of making it? I can understand the argument for that as I made it myself before the draft. As for being a rotation player, here's the important thing that you can't forget:

Look at our roster right now. Robert Williams isn't GOING to be a rotation player next year. We are f'n stacked!! He doesn't have to be. So guess what happens? He gets to work his butt off, learn from our veterans, watch film, get better. He may not look like a rotation player to you right now but who's to say he might not be improved after a year By then, other guys like Morris might be gone. Baynes is most likely to get a 2 year deal. After that, this kid could feasibly step in. The point is, it doesn't matter whether you can trust him today. Do you trust that he can be coached up and surrounded by the veterans on this team, given what tools he already has, can he get better in 2-3 years to look like a solid rotation player?

[darrendaye]

Wish he blocked shots with his left hand too.

This is one guy who needs Marcus Smart still around to kick his butt.

That said, he's a guy who was on my list the middle of his freshman year. Really never thought the C's would consider him given the shooting issues. Really like that he fills the stat sheet.

[cloverleaf]

Well, I'm probably the only Celtics fan who didn't like the pick. I'm aware that of the remaining players on the board he had the most "value", but I believe there's a reason he fell to 27. His BBIQ (right now) is lower than any of the other 59 draft picks, he doesn't seem to have any passion for the game, and his offensive game is painful to watch. His body measurements are great, but thats about the only positive I see in him. My guess is he's out of the league by the end of his rookie contract.

BTW I would've been down on many other possible picks Ainge could've made at 27. Most players drafted after the first 20 don't get to contribute in the NBA for long. My main point is I don't see the potential of a rotation player (you all see) in him, which is legitimate for a 27th pick.

I don't see how a player could be the SEC Defensive Player of the Year both his college seasons--and be lacking in passion or understanding of the game (for the level he was playing at). Seems like he well knew his offensive limitations and played within that in order to have a shooting % north of .60.

[thelarrybirdx]

The Smart-Williams alley-oop is gonna be lethalllll


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[cloverleaf]

Ouch!

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/sports/20180622/celtics-draft-pick-robert-williams-makes-strange-first-impression

[Cyclical]

The Smart-Williams alley-oop is gonna be lethalllll

That's the first thing I thought of when I heard his name called. The Smart-Theis 2-man alley-oop / layup is my favorite bench play. This one is going to be off the charts.