Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson - Pg 97-8 - Block Ness Monster catching on

[camillepd]

The only question I have is, Woj mentioned mentorship, who's gonna be that for him on this team? I have confidence that Fiz and his coaching staff is gonna be big for him, but other than that I'm not sure which player is gonna be able to take him under his wing. I'm not a fan of Kanter at all, and I'm not even sure if Noah is the right guy to mentor this kid.

If we don't have a veteran player we can trust to mentor him, we might want to find one during free agency. A pros pro kinda like Courtney Lee but a big man who has been through it. I can't think of anybody off the top of my head.

And if we can't find such a vet, then Fizdale and members of the coaching staff will have to take him under their wing and do it themselves.

[Ignitowsky]

The only question I have is, Woj mentioned mentorship, who's gonna be that for him on this team? I have confidence that Fiz and his coaching staff is gonna be big for him, but other than that I'm not sure which player is gonna be able to take him under his wing. I'm not a fan of Kanter at all, and I'm not even sure if Noah is the right guy to mentor this kid.

If we don't have a veteran player we can trust to mentor him, we might want to find one during free agency. A pros pro kinda like Courtney Lee but a big man who has been through it. I can't think of anybody off the top of my head.

And if we can't find such a vet, then Fizdale and members of the coaching staff will have to take him under their wing and do it themselves.

Noah's skills are eroded but as a former dpoy and a tough as nails competitor I think mentoring Mr. Robinson will be a good way to earn his money. KP is also a possibility.

[awy]

It's evident that Mitchell is someone who is influenced by whoever was making those decisions for him in his circle, and that this person(s) really has high hopes for him.

Fizdale said they want to give him a defined role, a rim running and defense big like Capela. However, his personal training is more along the lines of trying to turn him into the next AD. They had him doing ball handling and such offensive drills. It's clear that whoever is charting his development in his circle envisions, eventually, a bigger role for him offensively.

This is not necessarily bad. The league is moving towards the AD type of center. Athletic, offensively versatile and active on both ends running the floor. It really fits Mitchell's physical tools, but we don't know if it fits his skill level or game sense just yet.

It just requires some communication between team and his people about his development. You could just let him work on a base of being a rim running, elite defense big which will get him NBA playing time. Then with that basis he can expand his offensive role as his skills develop.

It does sound like this is what is going on, as they have a long established relationship with his agent. But I don't know if the agent is the one charting his development in his circle.

[MaseInYourFace]

The only question I have is, Woj mentioned mentorship, who's gonna be that for him on this team? I have confidence that Fiz and his coaching staff is gonna be big for him, but other than that I'm not sure which player is gonna be able to take him under his wing. I'm not a fan of Kanter at all, and I'm not even sure if Noah is the right guy to mentor this kid.

If we don't have a veteran player we can trust to mentor him, we might want to find one during free agency. A pros pro kinda like Courtney Lee but a big man who has been through it. I can't think of anybody off the top of my head.

And if we can't find such a vet, then Fizdale and members of the coaching staff will have to take him under their wing and do it themselves.

Noah's skills are eroded but as a former dpoy and a tough as nails competitor I think mentoring Mr. Robinson will be a good way to earn his money. KP is also a possibility.

We really don't have any clarity at this point on what the Knicks plan to do with Noah. It would be nice if they can still get something out of him.

[IllmaticHandler]

It's evident that Mitchell is someone who is influenced by whoever was making those decisions for him in his circle, and that this person(s) really like to overcomplicate things for him.

Fizdale said they want to give him a defined role, a rim running and defense big like Capela. However, his personal training is more along the lines of trying to turn him into the next AD. They had him doing ball handling and such offensive drills. It's clear that whoever is charting his development in his circle envisions, eventually, a bigger role for him offensively.

This is not necessarily bad. It just requires some communication between team and his people about his development. You could just let him work on a base of being a rim running, elite defense big which will get him NBA playing time. Then with that basis he can expand his offensive role as his skills develop.

It does sound like this is what is going on, as they have a long established relationship with his agent. But I don't know if the agent is the one charting his development in his circle.

First off this a bunch of nothing. Mike Schmitz can sit his ass down to. There is nothing wrong with how he trained this year. This the new NBA.

Even Fiz said at the conference. We will give him Cappella role, And EXPAND his offense from there. Even Fiz will Expand him.


There is nothing to complain about here. Dude is not trying to be AD, because he can Handle and has Range. Honestly he is ahead of the curve ,BECAUSE he can DO those things. THIS IS THE NEW NBA. Honestly I bet Cappella wishes he could handle and and have range. Why? it would make him better.

[awy]

yea i agree it's good to see the skill progression. he probably improved his individual game a lot more by training full time the entire year as opposed to playing NCAA.

[MP4LIFE]

One of the biggest ways to improve yourself is playing against competition. Doesn’t matter the level. G league, Europe, college, whatever. You gain a lot of experience and intangibles that you don’t get from working out individually. Being able to be coached on the floor and be shown your strengths and weaknesses in an actual game on film is where you learn, not by going 1-0 with your trainer.

This is not to say he didn’t improve since high school but to say he is better off working out alone or that ‘this is the new NBA’ is absurd. Bottom line is playing the game is the best way to improve. There is nothing more extensive in terms of learning than actual experience versus other individuals as part of a team game on the court.

Which is why Mitchell is going to need at least one entire season in the G League (Capela had basically 2 seasons down there) before we can even begin to discuss this guy’s impact in ththe NBA.

[2010]

Some great intel on Mitchell from his high school coach as well as his strengths & weaknesses, attributes, and how soon he can be expected to contribute. Also confirmation on his personality type and communication development issues.

https://nypost.com/2018/06/23/high-school-coach-sheds-light-on-enigma-of-knicks-second-pick/

I think lot of y'all are still sleeping on this kid.

[awy]

im generally very skeptical of college player development outside of a few programs like nova

[Triple C]

Read on Twitter

[WajaBawl]

Some great intel in Mitchell from his high school coach as well as his strengths & weaknesses, attributes, and how soon he can be expected to contribute. Also confirmation on his personality type and communication development issues.

https://nypost.com/2018/06/23/high-school-coach-sheds-light-on-enigma-of-knicks-second-pick/

I think lot of y'all are still sleeping on this kid.

Great read, very promising. I don't mind the shyness, but hopefully he learns to communicate effectively on the court as that is a huge cornerstone of any good defensive unit.

[Context]

Some great intel in Mitchell from his high school coach as well as his strengths & weaknesses, attributes, and how soon he can be expected to contribute. Also confirmation on his personality type and communication development issues.

https://nypost.com/2018/06/23/high-school-coach-sheds-light-on-enigma-of-knicks-second-pick/

I think lot of y'all are still sleeping on this kid.

Ofcourse they are...people always focus on the "trending" "concerns" that are usually
backed by misinformation and assumptions...

If I'm going to make judgement- I like to aleast hear it or see it from a credible source. This coach
sounds like a very good one. People need to relax and watch the process unfold...

[IllmaticHandler]

He has good work ethic. I see a dude thats wants to improve all stories have said that since he picked up basketball, all he has done is work to get better.

He did not take the lazy route even after not going to school. He did pro training all year long and got better at things. Put on more muscle etc.


They will be saying in the NBA this year. How did teams pass on him. Knicks finally got one of those players that dropped way to far.

[RHODEY]

It's evident that Mitchell is someone who is influenced by whoever was making those decisions for him in his circle, and that this person(s) really has high hopes for him.

Fizdale said they want to give him a defined role, a rim running and defense big like Capela. However, his personal training is more along the lines of trying to turn him into the next AD. They had him doing ball handling and such offensive drills. It's clear that whoever is charting his development in his circle envisions, eventually, a bigger role for him offensively.

This is not necessarily bad. The league is moving towards the AD type of center. Athletic, offensively versatile and active on both ends running the floor. It really fits Mitchell's physical tools, but we don't know if it fits his skill level or game sense just yet.

It just requires some communication between team and his people about his development. You could just let him work on a base of being a rim running, elite defense big which will get him NBA playing time. Then with that basis he can expand his offensive role as his skills develop.

It does sound like this is what is going on, as they have a long established relationship with his agent. But I don't know if the agent is the one charting his development in his circle.

Your post sounds like it came from a board veteran, I look forward to hearing more from you.

[IllmaticHandler]

im generally very skeptical of college player development outside of a few programs like nova

Agreed.

Its why the G league will start blowing up more with how they revised it. The first kid to skip College and go to the G league this years said that one of the reasons he did not go to school is cause he wants pro training now.

[newyorker4ever]

The Lakers thought he would fall 3 more picks to 39 and they could snag him there, they took a risk and it didn't pan out

But since they had the #39 pick in the second round, they could have used cash to move up to the early 30s in a trade to ensure they get him, but they didn't do that. They just laid back waiting for him to fall into their laps at #39. Magic Johnson played himself on this one.

If we didn't keep our interest in him on such a down low then they would of traded up in front of us or even took him at #25 depending on how much they really liked him.

[fatalogic]

His timing and conditioning might be a little poor in the beginning but I think he will catch up fast. Especially since Fitz already has the young guys in a mini training camp which I didn’t realize was legal but whatever.

[newyorker4ever]

Where he shouldn't have slipped past IRL is Portland. After assembling that nice team with Aldridge and Lillard their management has been hugely disappointing.

Anfernee was a weird pick for them. I like him. But why take ANOTHER 6'4 scoring Guard when you have two already. A big or wing should have been def higher on the list.

I think one will be traded, most likely McCollum. I think Toronto is looking to do the same with one of Lowry/Derozan and maybe Wash should think about it as well.

[newyorker4ever]

The only question I have is, Woj mentioned mentorship, who's gonna be that for him on this team? I have confidence that Fiz and his coaching staff is gonna be big for him, but other than that I'm not sure which player is gonna be able to take him under his wing. I'm not a fan of Kanter at all, and I'm not even sure if Noah is the right guy to mentor this kid.

If we don't have a veteran player we can trust to mentor him, we might want to find one during free agency. A pros pro kinda like Courtney Lee but a big man who has been through it. I can't think of anybody off the top of my head.

And if we can't find such a vet, then Fizdale and members of the coaching staff will have to take him under their wing and do it themselves.

Unfortunately there isn't much out there in free agency that we can afford and the guys we might be able to afford aren't really looked at as being mentors. N.Noel would be a nice one year prove yourself contract but a mentor? KOQ would be one of the top ones out there i'd look at that we might be able to afford. Wonder what Chicago is planning on doing with Rolo now that they have W.Carter? Maybe the magic let go of B.Biyombo but mentor?

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[newyorker4ever]

If we don't have a veteran player we can trust to mentor him, we might want to find one during free agency. A pros pro kinda like Courtney Lee but a big man who has been through it. I can't think of anybody off the top of my head.

And if we can't find such a vet, then Fizdale and members of the coaching staff will have to take him under their wing and do it themselves.

Noah's skills are eroded but as a former dpoy and a tough as nails competitor I think mentoring Mr. Robinson will be a good way to earn his money. KP is also a possibility.

We really don't have any clarity at this point on what the Knicks plan to do with Noah. It would be nice if they can still get something out of him.

I think they're planning on using the stretch provision on him Sept 1st which i think is a bad move. They keep saying they're planning on staying away from any bigger name free agent signings this off season so they can do something in the 2019 off season. I know Kanter will be off the books but if you wait until the 2020 off season then not only will we have the Kanter money but Noah and C.Lee would be coming off the books and we'd have Timmy with one year left which would make him much easier to trade or just keep and let him come off the following off season. If we kept Noah and Lee and had their money along with the Kanter money then we could have the money for two star players to hook up and come to the Knicks together.