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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1141 » by stinger14 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:27 pm

yosemiteben wrote:That Beal trade is terrible value for WAS.

Very curious how CLE views Hill if LeBron leaves.


Beal trade is not good value, but I based it off of another Beal trade in the trade forum. However, they want get top value for a player with injury history making that much. Teams also know they gotta do something, therefore not offer top value.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1142 » by Benjamin Linus » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:34 pm

Marvin and a second round pick or two for Jared Dudley

We save an extra 4.5 million this year and 15 million next season. Phoenix has a massive hole at PF.

Booker-Jackson-Markell-Marvin-Ayton is a pretty balanced lineup... although they could use another playmaker
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Post#1143 » by stinger14 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:44 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:Marvin and a second round pick or two for Jared Dudley

We save an extra 4.5 million this year and 15 million next season. Phoenix has a massive hole at PF.

Booker-Jackson-Markell-Marvin-Ayton is a pretty balanced lineup... although they could use another playmaker


Not sure if they would since they have Warren and Chriss, but I would definitely give them a call
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1144 » by Snidely FC » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:46 pm

Teodosic just opted in so LAC now has Rivers, Teodosic, Beverly, SGA & (Jawun) Evans on their PG depth chart

Can we use the Trade Exception from the Dwight Trade ($7.8 M I believe) attached to MKG or Marv ($13 M) to exchange for Beverly ($5.5 M) or Teodosic ($6 M)?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1145 » by Teal25 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:52 pm

Made a thread asking for offers on MKG and Marvin. Got some interesting offers.

MKG+BK 2nds for Al(he’s only guaranteed 4 million)
MKG for Wes
MKG for Portland’s TPE
MKG for Shump+Skal
MKG for Chandler+ Protected 1st
MKG for TPE from Dallas if they get one
Marvin for Aldrich+Tyus
Marvin for Leur+2nds
MKG and Marvin for Chandler and Faried
MKG and Marvin for Leur+Galloway
MKG and Marvin for Hill
MKG and Marvin for Melo

Didn’t know MKG had that much interest. He needs a change of scenery badly. I like them all except the Denver and Detroit ones. I can’t see Denver giving up a 1st. Wouldn’t deal with Melo either.
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Post#1146 » by PhillyFan11 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:55 pm

I see a lot of you don’t want to rebuild....but what would you think if Philly were to offer this trade? Would you accept if you were GM?

Markell Fultz, Landry Shamet, Jared Bayless, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richaun Holmes

for

Kemba and Marvin Williams
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Post#1147 » by SeanBobcats » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:59 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:I see a lot of you don’t want to rebuild....but what would you think if Philly were to offer this trade? Would you accept if you were GM?

Markell Fultz, Landry Shamet, Jared Bayless, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richaun Holmes

for

Kemba and Marvin Williams



Most wouldn't like this offer, but I don't think it's too bad. Obviously Fultz is the main piece, so I would like to see what his progress is looking like on his jumper. His training with Drew Hanlan is encouraging
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1148 » by stinger14 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:00 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:I see a lot of you don’t want to rebuild....but what would you think if Philly were to offer this trade? Would you accept if you were GM?

Markell Fultz, Landry Shamet, Jared Bayless, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richaun Holmes

for

Kemba and Marvin Williams


Not too bad, would love to alter in some way where the Hornets receive a future first in 2021
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1149 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:02 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:I see a lot of you don’t want to rebuild....but what would you think if Philly were to offer this trade? Would you accept if you were GM?

Markell Fultz, Landry Shamet, Jared Bayless, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richaun Holmes

for

Kemba and Marvin Williams


Nope. Fultz may never fix his shot and if it's mental, not mechanical, then he may not be mentally tough enough.

We're not trading our franchise guy for someone going through mental struggles.

I'd want Fultz + Saric + Miami 2021.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1150 » by Bence » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:12 pm

stinger14 wrote:Marvin and MKG to OKC for Carmelo

OKC tried to make Melo a catch and shoot guy last year because Westbrook is so ball dominant. Marvin is a much better fit in that role for them and he is a much better defender than Melo. MKG gives them more bench depth and gives them another defender to throw at Houston and Golden State. Pg13, MKG, Roberson, Marvin, and Adams is a lot of defensive talent to throw out there.

As for Melo in Charlotte? He is a big expiring (27 million) and that would be a perfect way to dump Marvin and MKG to gain the cap flexibility we need next offseason. Maybe we agree to buy him out after the trade so he can sign wherever he wants to. Maybe we send him to a third team for their expirings. Maybe MJ wants to keep him for marketing, and he agrees to play here for one year to be our second scoring option and rebuild some of his value for one last contract.


Actually Melo would not be a bad idea right now as things are if we are not doing an immediate rebuild. He has a no trade clause so MJ and Kemba needs to butter him up (am I using the right phrase? Guys sorry, my English is a bit rusty), but as buyout is an option for OKC I think he may be interested in a one year switch. I don’t think highly of him, he is not the player he was, but two things:
1. He still sells tickets, would be fun to watch with Kemba (half the time)
2. He plays around 30 mins per game, 30 less than MKG and Marv combined. I can get behind any 2 for 1 trade, because I think we need time for Miles and will not be able to move Batum.

Now would OKC interested? I sure don’t know. I wouldn’t be if I were for them, but who knows.


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Post#1151 » by BeesWax » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:13 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:I see a lot of you don’t want to rebuild....but what would you think if Philly were to offer this trade? Would you accept if you were GM?

Markell Fultz, Landry Shamet, Jared Bayless, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richaun Holmes

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Kemba and Marvin Williams

That would be an easy yes for me. While not perfect it gives some nice building block pieces. I really liked Shamet as a late first option if we had one so I consider him a solid addition as well.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1152 » by HornetJail » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:25 pm

I want to stay for far away from Fultz. Those mental shooting issues bother me
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1153 » by stinger14 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:32 pm

Bence wrote:
stinger14 wrote:Marvin and MKG to OKC for Carmelo

OKC tried to make Melo a catch and shoot guy last year because Westbrook is so ball dominant. Marvin is a much better fit in that role for them and he is a much better defender than Melo. MKG gives them more bench depth and gives them another defender to throw at Houston and Golden State. Pg13, MKG, Roberson, Marvin, and Adams is a lot of defensive talent to throw out there.

As for Melo in Charlotte? He is a big expiring (27 million) and that would be a perfect way to dump Marvin and MKG to gain the cap flexibility we need next offseason. Maybe we agree to buy him out after the trade so he can sign wherever he wants to. Maybe we send him to a third team for their expirings. Maybe MJ wants to keep him for marketing, and he agrees to play here for one year to be our second scoring option and rebuild some of his value for one last contract.


Actually Melo would not be a bad idea right now as things are if we are not doing an immediate rebuild. He has a no trade clause so MJ and Kemba needs to butter him up (am I using the right phrase? Guys sorry, my English is a bit rusty), but as buyout is an option for OKC I think he may be interested in a one year switch. I don’t think highly of him, he is not the player he was, but two things:
1. He still sells tickets, would be fun to watch with Kemba (half the time)
2. He plays around 30 mins per game, 30 less than MKG and Marv combined. I can get behind any 2 for 1 trade, because I think we need time for Miles and will not be able to move Batum.

Now would OKC interested? I sure don’t know. I wouldn’t be if I were for them, but who knows.


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Allowing Melo to play with the ball in his hands as a second option behind Kemba could be good for both sides.

If Melo comes to the eastern conference and has a bounce back year, he could set himself up for a better contract in the offseason. He would also bring more attention to Charlotte during the year we host the all star game. Melo could boost ticket sales, boost merchandise sales, and WHAT IF he played well enough to make the all star team. That's a huge if, but allowing him to be himself as a second option while playing in the east, you never know. His expiring contract is the biggest part as it would allow us to resign Kemba and Lamb
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1154 » by PhillyFan11 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:37 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:I see a lot of you don’t want to rebuild....but what would you think if Philly were to offer this trade? Would you accept if you were GM?

Markell Fultz, Landry Shamet, Jared Bayless, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richaun Holmes

for

Kemba and Marvin Williams


Nope. Fultz may never fix his shot and if it's mental, not mechanical, then he may not be mentally tough enough.

We're not trading our franchise guy for someone going through mental struggles.

I'd want Fultz + Saric + Miami 2021.


The issue is that your “franchise guy” is in the final year of his deal. So you take the risk that a change of scenery and coaching can fix Fultz, or you take the risk that Kemba is gone after the year and you get nothing in return.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1155 » by stinger14 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:59 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:I see a lot of you don’t want to rebuild....but what would you think if Philly were to offer this trade? Would you accept if you were GM?

Markell Fultz, Landry Shamet, Jared Bayless, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richaun Holmes

for

Kemba and Marvin Williams


Nope. Fultz may never fix his shot and if it's mental, not mechanical, then he may not be mentally tough enough.

We're not trading our franchise guy for someone going through mental struggles.

I'd want Fultz + Saric + Miami 2021.


The issue is that your “franchise guy” is in the final year of his deal. So you take the risk that a change of scenery and coaching can fix Fultz, or you take the risk that Kemba is gone after the year and you get nothing in return.


I am willing to take a chance on Fultz without including Dario. but I would want that Miami 2021 pick in the deal you proposed. It does scare me though, and you gotta remember how bad Hornets fans have been burned year after year about MKG not improving his shot.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1156 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:09 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:I see a lot of you don’t want to rebuild....but what would you think if Philly were to offer this trade? Would you accept if you were GM?

Markell Fultz, Landry Shamet, Jared Bayless, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richaun Holmes

for

Kemba and Marvin Williams


Nope. Fultz may never fix his shot and if it's mental, not mechanical, then he may not be mentally tough enough.

We're not trading our franchise guy for someone going through mental struggles.

I'd want Fultz + Saric + Miami 2021.


The issue is that your “franchise guy” is in the final year of his deal. So you take the risk that a change of scenery and coaching can fix Fultz, or you take the risk that Kemba is gone after the year and you get nothing in return.


So is George Hill. So maybe target him instead.
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Post#1157 » by chabber » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:10 pm

We just got rid of Dwight. No way we take on Melo. He may be a nice guy, and not the same kind of locker room cancer, but on the court he suffers from the same delusions that Dwight does. Melo needs to come off the bench. As bad as he was towards the end of the year he may actually be worse than Dwight.
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Post#1158 » by yosemiteben » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:27 pm

Yeah, sending out Dwight only to add Melo seems a little counterproductive.
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Post#1159 » by Teal25 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:32 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:I see a lot of you don’t want to rebuild....but what would you think if Philly were to offer this trade? Would you accept if you were GM?

Markell Fultz, Landry Shamet, Jared Bayless, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richaun Holmes

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Kemba and Marvin Williams

I would be okay with this offer. I want to blow it up. I think Kemba definitely stays in Philly. It’s close to NY and Philly will be a title contender especially if Lebron goes west.

Fultz is such a wild card. They should’ve never traded that Sac pick for him. I think he can bounce back. I think Holmes and TLC are decent prospects.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1160 » by CuseMayne » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:49 pm

The one MKG deal I like the best would be for Shump and Labissiere. IMO Shump is a better player than MKG as it is...and Labissiere if I recall showed a good amount of promise with inconsistent playing time for Sacramento. Not even sure how it works out financially but if it's reasonable I'd love to see that deal done.

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