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Post#161 » by closg00 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:42 am

NatP4 wrote:
closg00 wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:
Brown will probably barely play this year cause brooks
. Oubre will probably gone in some fashion next year. Otto after he opts in or out cause he is probably smart enough to abandon this sinkhole of a franchise. :nonono:


Where/how is he going to get the minutes? Not too-many 18 y/o's get put into the rotation, he'll most-likely be in the G-League for most of the season.


This is simple

Wall Sato
Beal Brown/Sato
Oubre Brown/Sato
Porter Brown

I really have no clue what NBA you've been watching? Picking a wing over a traditional Center is a much better move. Like have you been reading the reports about Williams already missing Celtics team related events/knee issues/serious questions about his work ethic?

He’s going to be 19 by the time the season starts, did you see what Tatum did this past season as an 18 year old? What about Anunoby?

They can EASILY get him starters minutes if they wanted to. A smart coach would give him atlas 24 a night on this team.


They could easily give starter minutes to Sanon too, but that's not going to happen with either player. Tatum was the 3rd pick in the draft and obviously not a poor shooter like Brown, as a poor shooter at the wing position, Brown won't be getting many minutes.
Now it would be fantastically awesome if Brown turned into a Shaun Livingston-type PG.

As-far as picking. Ainge took Williams, Spurs took Lonnie Walker, Bucks took Donte DiVincenzo, I'll place my bets on those GM's over Ernie's. <Those guys will in their teams rotations, not Brown initially. I will be watching all of the guys we passed-up and comparing if Brown is the better player and contributing meaningful minutes off the bench.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#162 » by NatP4 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:09 am

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NatP4 wrote:
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Where/how is he going to get the minutes? Not too-many 18 y/o's get put into the rotation, he'll most-likely be in the G-League for most of the season.


This is simple

Wall Sato
Beal Brown/Sato
Oubre Brown/Sato
Porter Brown

I really have no clue what NBA you've been watching? Picking a wing over a traditional Center is a much better move. Like have you been reading the reports about Williams already missing Celtics team related events/knee issues/serious questions about his work ethic?

He’s going to be 19 by the time the season starts, did you see what Tatum did this past season as an 18 year old? What about Anunoby?

They can EASILY get him starters minutes if they wanted to. A smart coach would give him atlas 24 a night on this team.


They could easily give starter minutes to Sanon too, but that's not going to happen with either player. Tatum was the 3rd pick in the draft and obviously not a poor shooter like Brown, as a poor shooter at the wing position, Brown won't be getting many minutes.
Now it would be fantastically awesome if Brown turned into a Shaun Livingston-type PG.

As-far as picking. Ainge took Williams, Spurs took Lonnie Walker, Bucks took Donte DiVincenzo, I'll place my bets on those GM's over Ernie's. <Those guys will in their teams rotations, not Brown initially. I will be watching all of the guys we passed-up and comparing if Brown is the better player and contributing meaningful minutes off the bench.


You’re going to be comparing an 18 year old that isn’t getting minutes to a 22 year old that is? Sounds about right.

Lonnie Walker? Are you serious? Divincenzo? He’s 22 years old. You wanted to take a 22 year old with a role player ceiling instead of an 18 year old 6’7 wing with a 6’11 wingspan that was the 13th ranked player in his class?

26 picks before Robert Williams. Your criticism is ridiculous. He has major injury/character/work ethic questions, and doesn’t fit the new NBA.

This is just getting ridiculous, you’ve attempted to rationalize EVERY single other pick made but ours, you originally complained about not drafting for need (which is a terrible practice) but now you claim we should’ve picked Divincenzo or Lonnie Walker, who are also not centers. You ignore ALL of the red flags on Robert Williams.

Look at all these people claiming the shooting is nothing to be concerned about:
https://www.nba.com/wizards/what-theyre-saying-about-wizards-draft

Must all be wrong
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#163 » by DCZards » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:30 am

The Spurs were reportedly high on Brown. A couple of mocks even had SA drafting him at 18. This is from the San Antonio Express-News. https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-draft-profile-Troy-Brown-Jr-12985225.php

By most measurements, Troy Brown had a lone college season at Oregon that screams "solid, but not spectacular."
He averaged 11.3 points, 6.2 rebounds and 3.2 assists – nice enough numbers for a freshman but none that point to a player ready to make a mark in the NBA this fall.

It has been Brown's performances, individual team workouts and interviews that have him shooting up mock draft boards of late.

At 6-foot-7, with a 6-foot-10 wingspan, Brown has the size necessary to play both wing positions at the next level – and most importantly, defend both wing positions at the next level.

Brown's lack of explosion and athleticism keeps him off of most SportsCenter highlight reels, but his ability to do a little bit of everything has many NBA teams intrigued.

In fact, Brown – who has reportedly worked out for the Spurs -- might be the most versatile player in this year's draft field. The minus that limits Brown's draft stock is a lack of shooting touch.

He was an inconsistent scorer at Oregon, and shot only 29 percent from 3-point distance. He'll need to improve that part of his game to become a rotation piece at the NBA level.

At 18, however, Brown is among the youngest players in the 2018 draft. He clearly has room to improve.
With the intel on Brown limited to one college season, a team that selects him in the middle of the first round will be rolling the dice on his future development.

Brown could wind up a steal for the team with the guts to take him.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#164 » by Kanyewest » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:49 am

NatP4 wrote:
closg00 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
This is simple

Wall Sato
Beal Brown/Sato
Oubre Brown/Sato
Porter Brown

I really have no clue what NBA you've been watching? Picking a wing over a traditional Center is a much better move. Like have you been reading the reports about Williams already missing Celtics team related events/knee issues/serious questions about his work ethic?

He’s going to be 19 by the time the season starts, did you see what Tatum did this past season as an 18 year old? What about Anunoby?

They can EASILY get him starters minutes if they wanted to. A smart coach would give him atlas 24 a night on this team.


They could easily give starter minutes to Sanon too, but that's not going to happen with either player. Tatum was the 3rd pick in the draft and obviously not a poor shooter like Brown, as a poor shooter at the wing position, Brown won't be getting many minutes.
Now it would be fantastically awesome if Brown turned into a Shaun Livingston-type PG.

As-far as picking. Ainge took Williams, Spurs took Lonnie Walker, Bucks took Donte DiVincenzo, I'll place my bets on those GM's over Ernie's. <Those guys will in their teams rotations, not Brown initially. I will be watching all of the guys we passed-up and comparing if Brown is the better player and contributing meaningful minutes off the bench.


You’re going to be comparing an 18 year old that isn’t getting minutes to a 22 year old that is? Sounds about right.

Lonnie Walker? Are you serious? Divincenzo? He’s 22 years old. You wanted to take a 22 year old with a role player ceiling instead of an 18 year old 6’7 wing with a 6’11 wingspan that was the 13th ranked player in his class?

26 picks before Robert Williams. Your criticism is ridiculous. He has major injury/character/work ethic questions, and doesn’t fit the new NBA.

This is just getting ridiculous, you’ve attempted to rationalize EVERY single other pick made but ours, you originally complained about not drafting for need (which is a terrible practice) but now you claim we should’ve picked Divincenzo or Lonnie Walker, who are also not centers. You ignore ALL of the red flags on Robert Williams.

Look at all these people claiming the shooting is nothing to be concerned about:
https://www.nba.com/wizards/what-theyre-saying-about-wizards-draft

Must all be wrong


Donte is 21 with a 40 inch vertical that already has NBA 3 point range.

I'm hoping Brown develops. Leonard also had a 29% 3 point range coming out of college. I would have preferred Donte but I'm hoping that Brown proves me wrong.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#165 » by 80sballboy » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:50 am

DCZards wrote:The Spurs were reportedly high on Brown. A couple of mocks even had SA drafting him at 18. This is from the San Antonio Express-News. https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-draft-profile-Troy-Brown-Jr-12985225.php

By most measurements, Troy Brown had a lone college season at Oregon that screams "solid, but not spectacular."
He averaged 11.3 points, 6.2 rebounds and 3.2 assists – nice enough numbers for a freshman but none that point to a player ready to make a mark in the NBA this fall.

It has been Brown's performances, individual team workouts and interviews that have him shooting up mock draft boards of late.

At 6-foot-7, with a 6-foot-10 wingspan, Brown has the size necessary to play both wing positions at the next level – and most importantly, defend both wing positions at the next level.

Brown's lack of explosion and athleticism keeps him off of most SportsCenter highlight reels, but his ability to do a little bit of everything has many NBA teams intrigued.

In fact, Brown – who has reportedly worked out for the Spurs -- might be the most versatile player in this year's draft field. The minus that limits Brown's draft stock is a lack of shooting touch.

He was an inconsistent scorer at Oregon, and shot only 29 percent from 3-point distance. He'll need to improve that part of his game to become a rotation piece at the NBA level.

At 18, however, Brown is among the youngest players in the 2018 draft. He clearly has room to improve.
With the intel on Brown limited to one college season, a team that selects him in the middle of the first round will be rolling the dice on his future development.

Brown could wind up a steal for the team with the guts to take him.


IDK if the Spurs would have taken him but it does scream Spurs pick. I'm not as down as I was on that pick draft night because most of us knew very little about Brown, other than they worked him out. The other reason we disliked it because they passed on R. Williams (and drafted a Euro 2nd rounder who won't be here for 2-3 years). Williams might be the right pick eventually but he was a risk. We complain about Oubre's lack of BB IQ, while we laud Porter for it, who doesn't have great athleticism. The Spurs live for these type of players and they surrounded them with stars or very good players in LMA, Leonard, Parker, Manu, etc.

I think at 15, you don't have a lot of options in terms of finding guys with few flaws. This kid apparently gets it. He's not going to be satisfied with 29% shooting from 3 just like Otto wasn't satisfied with his shot as a freshman and jumped almost 20%. Not saying Brown is going to shoot like Porter but that form is pretty good. The fact he lost body fat and looked ripped in his workout, after looking kind of chunky at Oregon also helps. Maybe we're wrong and Zhaire Smith was the pick because of his incredible athleticism. But he's not 6-7 with the ability to play 2-3 positions (min.). Donte D. also is a 2-guard who doesn't play "positionless basketball".
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#166 » by 80sballboy » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:44 am

Interesting piece from FanSided/HoopsHabit
https://hoopshabit.com/2018/06/23/washington-wizards-5-reasons-troy-brown-jr-was-a-good-pick/
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#167 » by NatP4 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:53 am

Kanyewest wrote:
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closg00 wrote:
They could easily give starter minutes to Sanon too, but that's not going to happen with either player. Tatum was the 3rd pick in the draft and obviously not a poor shooter like Brown, as a poor shooter at the wing position, Brown won't be getting many minutes.
Now it would be fantastically awesome if Brown turned into a Shaun Livingston-type PG.

As-far as picking. Ainge took Williams, Spurs took Lonnie Walker, Bucks took Donte DiVincenzo, I'll place my bets on those GM's over Ernie's. <Those guys will in their teams rotations, not Brown initially. I will be watching all of the guys we passed-up and comparing if Brown is the better player and contributing meaningful minutes off the bench.


You’re going to be comparing an 18 year old that isn’t getting minutes to a 22 year old that is? Sounds about right.

Lonnie Walker? Are you serious? Divincenzo? He’s 22 years old. You wanted to take a 22 year old with a role player ceiling instead of an 18 year old 6’7 wing with a 6’11 wingspan that was the 13th ranked player in his class?

26 picks before Robert Williams. Your criticism is ridiculous. He has major injury/character/work ethic questions, and doesn’t fit the new NBA.

This is just getting ridiculous, you’ve attempted to rationalize EVERY single other pick made but ours, you originally complained about not drafting for need (which is a terrible practice) but now you claim we should’ve picked Divincenzo or Lonnie Walker, who are also not centers. You ignore ALL of the red flags on Robert Williams.

Look at all these people claiming the shooting is nothing to be concerned about:
https://www.nba.com/wizards/what-theyre-saying-about-wizards-draft

Must all be wrong


Donte is 21 with a 40 inch vertical that already has NBA 3 point range.

I'm hoping Brown develops. Leonard also had a 29% 3 point range coming out of college. I would have preferred Donte but I'm hoping that Brown proves me wrong.


He also has a very concerning 6’6 wingspan that will limit him to PG/SG where we already have Wall/Beal/Sato. He would’ve been a nice fit, but only in a limited role. Brown presents far more upside, I’m sure you agree. Most likely a lower floor as well, but what was Divincenzo doing at 18? Shooting 28% and averaging more turnovers than assists.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#168 » by closg00 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:42 pm

NatP4 wrote:You’re going to be comparing an 18 year old that isn’t getting minutes to a 22 year old that is? Sounds about right.

Lonnie Walker? Are you serious? Divincenzo? He’s 22 years old. You wanted to take a 22 year old with a role player ceiling instead of an 18 year old 6’7 wing with a 6’11 wingspan that was the 13th ranked player in his class?

26 picks before Robert Williams. Your criticism is ridiculous. He has major injury/character/work ethic questions, and doesn’t fit the new NBA.

This is just getting ridiculous, you’ve attempted to rationalize EVERY single other pick made but ours, you originally complained about not drafting for need (which is a terrible practice) but now you claim we should’ve picked Divincenzo or Lonnie Walker, who are also not centers. You ignore ALL of the red flags on Robert Williams.

Look at all these people claiming the shooting is nothing to be concerned about:
https://www.nba.com/wizards/what-theyre-saying-about-wizards-draft

Must all be wrong


Re: Shooting, this is what they actually said, I didn’t bother posting contrarian opinions on our selecting Brown, they are plentiful.
You also mischaracterized my position on Brown which I will correct when I get a chance.

The Oregon freshman, who doesn’t turn 19 until July 28, must improve as a shooter. He made just 29.1 percent of his three-pointers, but he was a young player who took questionable shots.

His savvy can make the Wizards better, provided he tightens up his shooting and takes advantage of NBA training.”

Brown isn’t a great shooter and will require some refinement as a scorer, but won’t have to shoulder much of that load in Washington.

Give him two-three years to develop his jump shot to become better from three-point range. If he can become an outside shooting threat, now you have a legitimate starter. At the very least, he’s a good rotation player.”

Brown Jr. is a Swiss army knife of talent. While not necessarily a reliable scorer, the switchable wing checks many other boxes, including rebounding, physicality and athleticism.”
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#169 » by I_Like_Dirt » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:30 pm

NatP4 wrote:He also has a very concerning 6’6 wingspan that will limit him to PG/SG where we already have Wall/Beal/Sato. He would’ve been a nice fit, but only in a limited role. Brown presents far more upside, I’m sure you agree. Most likely a lower floor as well, but what was Divincenzo doing at 18? Shooting 28% and averaging more turnovers than assists.


Yeah, I don't get the hype with Divincenzo. Yeah, he was better as a junior than Brown was as a freshman, and things don't necessarily linearly over time, but just looking at Divincenzo, he's about equal to Brown defensively but going to translate worse in the NBA, he isn't a better passer despite the age difference, he's a worse rebounder, he gets to the line less; literally the only thing he's notably better at is shooting college 3s, but that isn't necessarily the big plus it gets made out to be because he's worse at shooting FTs, suggesting he might not always be the better shooter.

Some of the criticisms of Brown are legit, but really, similar stuff or worse can be said about everyone taken afterwards, too. Brown is far from a perfect prospect, but he was a solid choice at 15. Just because people didn't see that before the draft and/or want to criticize everything Ernie (both legitimately okay, especially the latter) doesn't make him a bad pick. For all we know this draft winds up terrible and none of these guys actually have productive NBA careers - it happens. I do think people need to give Brown a chance, though. Improving on a jumper when their form is already okay-ish is one of the most commonly improved upon things for players in the NBA. If he does that, he's going to be a very good player. Heck, going by Divincenzo, Brown was a downright sniper as a freshman, as he shot way better than 14% from 3.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#170 » by gtn130 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:31 pm

I have no issue with drafting a wing, especially in today's NBA. It's not as if the Wizards are one piece away from doing anything meaningful. I'd go BPA every draft if I'm the Wizards. Troy Brown wasn't the BPA, though.
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Post#171 » by I_Like_Dirt » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:42 pm

gtn130 wrote:I have no issue with drafting a wing, especially in today's NBA. It's not as if the Wizards are one piece away from doing anything meaningful. I'd go BPA every draft if I'm the Wizards. Troy Brown wasn't the BPA, though.


If you ask everyone who BPA was, you'll get a bunch of different answers, and frequently you're going to get a bunch of different names. I don't know if Brown was BPA or not, but anyone who suggests he wasn't in the conversation for it is just trying to be controversial. If there's one thing I really don't like about online mock drafts it's that everyone points to them as some sort of arbiter of "rightness" when it comes to ranking players. And I'm not saying you specifically are doing that here, but it invades the internet and it's almost impossible to avoid it.

As for who's better, I don't think Zhaire Smith is necessarily a better prospect. I think he was better last season owing to his ability to get to the line and finish inside in college, but I think it's pretty debatable who's better moving forward given that it's likely that Brown will be the better passer and defender in the NBA, and their FT%s suggest that Smith isn't actually a better shooter. I think Divincenzo is a worse prospect than both Smith and Brown. I think Robert Williams was and remains way overrated by the internet mock draft community - Cs aren't worth what they once were, and I don't think he really likes basketball all that much (something common amongst bigs in general who get pushed to make millions because they'd be fools not to) and he just overslept his Celtics introduction which doesn't exactly change my mind on the topic. Lonnie Walker is a nice prospect, but not a guy who sets himself way apart from Brown, really. Thank goodness the Wizards let the Jazz draft Grayson Allen. I think you could make the case for a couple other guys, and be justified, but there wasn't a clear cut BPA at 15, and Brown had about as strong an argument as any at that spot.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#172 » by Ruzious » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:50 pm

If all things go well with Troy, he could very well be just about as good as DDV... by the time their rookie contracts expire.
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Post#173 » by gtn130 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:56 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:If you ask everyone who BPA was, you'll get a bunch of different answers, and frequently you're going to get a bunch of different names. I don't know if Brown was BPA or not, but anyone who suggests he wasn't in the conversation for it is just trying to be controversial. If there's one thing I really don't like about online mock drafts it's that everyone points to them as some sort of arbiter of "rightness" when it comes to ranking players. And I'm not saying you specifically are doing that here, but it invades the internet and it's almost impossible to avoid it.


Brown was ranked as the #20 (high #18 / low #23) overall prospect if you go by aggregate mock draft rankings. That's the closest thing the public really has to a consensus unless you look at betting markets, which I'm too lazy to do right now. My point though is that you can assess a prospect's perceived value without having a particular opinion of that player just based on the market alone.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/06/20/nba-mock-draft-consensus-top-prospects-latest-update-rumors/

My only argument regarding Zhaire is really about how Philly acquired him. While I happened to love Zhaire, the thing that gets me is how Philly was simply unwilling to take him six spots higher and was able to acquire an additional first round pick in the process of getting the guy they actually wanted.

If the Wizards had traded back to #20 to get Brown, I would actually probably love the pick. Of course it's possible there were other teams who were going to draft Brown that we don't know about, but Ernie Grunfeld has absolutely NOT earned the benefit of the doubt, and there is no universe in which EG masterfully trades back to get the guy he wanted all along while acquiring a significant asset along the way.
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Post#174 » by I_Like_Dirt » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:01 pm

Ruzious wrote:If all things go well with Troy, he could very well be just about as good as DDV... by the time their rookie contracts expire.


Oh please. I expect Divincenzo is going to have a bit better rookie season because he went to a worse team who needs his skillset more so he's likely going to get more minutes and be allowed to make more mistakes, but... so?... I don't think either guy is going to be so good that they wouldn't be replaceable by a reasonably cheap FA option this season. Divincenzo isn't actually that much better than Brown right now. The only thing he's significantly better at is 3-point shooting, but again, he's got his spots there and outside of those he's not a better shooter, as evidenced by his FT shooting. Divincenzo will be lucky to have a slightly lesser career than Brown. Call me when Divincenzo is significantly better than Tony Snell or Dellavedova. The Wizards have actually done a better job with their draft picks than the Bucks for the past few seasons - the Wizards' problem isn't the guys they draft, it's that they're constantly trading their draft picks away.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#175 » by closg00 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:14 pm

gtn130 wrote:I have no issue with drafting a wing, especially in today's NBA. It's not as if the Wizards are one piece away from doing anything meaningful. I'd go BPA every draft if I'm the Wizards. Troy Brown wasn't the BPA, though.


Agree with most of what you wrote, I differ slightly in that:
* Brown wasn’t BPA (agree)
* Given Ted’s claim that we are contenders now, the team needs the best, cheap, bench players that can make us more competitive THIS season, not 3-4 years from now. Having Smith, DiVincenzo, Walker, or Huerter coming off the bench behind Beal or Williams sharing minutes with Mahinimi, would have been the way to go, Huerter was the only player not ranked above Brown and you could make a case drafting him too.

Not knocking Brown as a player, he is a good prospect too.
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Post#176 » by Ruzious » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:16 pm

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Ruzious wrote:If all things go well with Troy, he could very well be just about as good as DDV... by the time their rookie contracts expire.


Oh please. I expect Divincenzo is going to have a bit better rookie season because he went to a worse team who needs his skillset more so he's likely going to get more minutes and be allowed to make more mistakes, but... so?... I don't think either guy is going to be so good that they wouldn't be replaceable by a reasonably cheap FA option this season. Divincenzo isn't actually that much better than Brown right now. The only thing he's significantly better at is 3-point shooting, but again, he's got his spots there and outside of those he's not a better shooter, as evidenced by his FT shooting. Divincenzo will be lucky to have a slightly lesser career than Brown. Call me when Divincenzo is significantly better than Tony Snell or Dellavedova. The Wizards have actually done a better job with their draft picks than the Bucks for the past few seasons - the Wizards' problem isn't the guys they draft, it's that they're constantly trading their draft picks away.

Um... what?

You're reasoning that DDV's going to have a better season is based on Milwaukee being a worse team than Washington? Based on... their regular season record - even with Milwaukee changing coaches during the season? That Milwaukee lost a great 7 game series to Boston? Just stop and admit this isn't worth arguing about.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#177 » by gtn130 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:21 pm

closg00 wrote:* Given Ted’s claim that we are contenders now, the team needs the best, cheap, bench players that can make us more competitive THIS season, not 3-4 years from now. Having Smith, DiVincenzo, Walker, or Huerter coming off the bench behind Beal or Williams sharing minutes with Mahinimi, would have been the way to go, Huerter was the only player not ranked above Brown and you could make a case drafting him too.

Not knocking Brown as a player, he is a good prospect too.


Right, but I certainly don't agree with Ted and am not at all on board with the "mortgage the future to be the 7th seed" strategy.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#178 » by TGW » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:38 pm

DCZards wrote:The Spurs were reportedly high on Brown. A couple of mocks even had SA drafting him at 18. This is from the San Antonio Express-News. https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-draft-profile-Troy-Brown-Jr-12985225.php

By most measurements, Troy Brown had a lone college season at Oregon that screams "solid, but not spectacular."
He averaged 11.3 points, 6.2 rebounds and 3.2 assists – nice enough numbers for a freshman but none that point to a player ready to make a mark in the NBA this fall.

It has been Brown's performances, individual team workouts and interviews that have him shooting up mock draft boards of late.

At 6-foot-7, with a 6-foot-10 wingspan, Brown has the size necessary to play both wing positions at the next level – and most importantly, defend both wing positions at the next level.

Brown's lack of explosion and athleticism keeps him off of most SportsCenter highlight reels, but his ability to do a little bit of everything has many NBA teams intrigued.

In fact, Brown – who has reportedly worked out for the Spurs -- might be the most versatile player in this year's draft field. The minus that limits Brown's draft stock is a lack of shooting touch.

He was an inconsistent scorer at Oregon, and shot only 29 percent from 3-point distance. He'll need to improve that part of his game to become a rotation piece at the NBA level.

At 18, however, Brown is among the youngest players in the 2018 draft. He clearly has room to improve.
With the intel on Brown limited to one college season, a team that selects him in the middle of the first round will be rolling the dice on his future development.

Brown could wind up a steal for the team with the guts to take him.


The Spurs were very high on Kevin Seraphin too. Doesn't mean a damn. The only thing that matters is that the Spurs have a track record of turning chicken s**t into chicken salad, and the Wizards don't.
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#179 » by FAH1223 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:52 pm

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DCZards wrote:The Spurs were reportedly high on Brown. A couple of mocks even had SA drafting him at 18. This is from the San Antonio Express-News. https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-draft-profile-Troy-Brown-Jr-12985225.php

By most measurements, Troy Brown had a lone college season at Oregon that screams "solid, but not spectacular."
He averaged 11.3 points, 6.2 rebounds and 3.2 assists – nice enough numbers for a freshman but none that point to a player ready to make a mark in the NBA this fall.

It has been Brown's performances, individual team workouts and interviews that have him shooting up mock draft boards of late.

At 6-foot-7, with a 6-foot-10 wingspan, Brown has the size necessary to play both wing positions at the next level – and most importantly, defend both wing positions at the next level.

Brown's lack of explosion and athleticism keeps him off of most SportsCenter highlight reels, but his ability to do a little bit of everything has many NBA teams intrigued.

In fact, Brown – who has reportedly worked out for the Spurs -- might be the most versatile player in this year's draft field. The minus that limits Brown's draft stock is a lack of shooting touch.

He was an inconsistent scorer at Oregon, and shot only 29 percent from 3-point distance. He'll need to improve that part of his game to become a rotation piece at the NBA level.

At 18, however, Brown is among the youngest players in the 2018 draft. He clearly has room to improve.
With the intel on Brown limited to one college season, a team that selects him in the middle of the first round will be rolling the dice on his future development.

Brown could wind up a steal for the team with the guts to take him.


The Spurs were very high on Kevin Seraphin too. Doesn't mean a damn. The only thing that matters is that the Spurs have a track record of turning chicken s**t into chicken salad, and the Wizards don't.


Spurs have had their fairshare of busts

But what they've been able to do is for those busts, they've been able to sign a Danny Green from the G-League or a Patty Mills/Boris Diaw off waivers or sign an international player to fill a hole.

But when they hit on picks, they really do hit on them. Parker at the end of the 1st, Ginobili in the 2nd round, Kawhi at #15... and now Dejounte Murray looks to be their PG of the future and already an All-NBA defender. :o
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Re: The Troy Brown Thread 

Post#180 » by NatP4 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:05 pm

Ruzious wrote:If all things go well with Troy, he could very well be just about as good as DDV... by the time their rookie contracts expire.


Whatever that means.

Divincenzo played for Villanova by the way, not a bad Oregon team.

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