[Knicks] Fizdale on Knox

[dakomish23]

this is all speculation by Berman. Don't read into it too much

Or just don’t read berman

[nykfan42]

How does Berman still have a job. Like he's probably the worst beat reporter we have. I mean at least Isola is a douche but sometimes it's funny and I think he has SOME sauces out there. Berman has nothing.

[stuporman]

i had every intention on reading this, but had to close the window on principle after the opening sentence.

nah, homie. not me.

He got your click, mission accomplished, he doesn't really care about being read.

[magnumt]

Read on Twitter

This is why!

This alone tells me that at JUST 18 years old this guys was lighting it up! Can you imagine him on the Fastbreak with Prince Frank, Porzingis & the other youngin's!

--Mags

You gotta love that he’s wearing a Knicks pin.

He said he WANTED to be here. That's one of the reasons he was so enamored with Knox as well, because he too wanted to be here.

--Mags

[Jeff Van Gully]

i had every intention on reading this, but had to close the window on principle after the opening sentence.

nah, homie. not me.

He got your click, mission accomplished, he doesn't really care about being read.

you're 100% right. i lost as soon as i clicked.

at least i didn't give them any clickthrough on ads or other NY post content.

[whocares1]

As if there isn't a more prominent community of angst ridden nihilists that act the very same way you described except they're preaching a hopeless pessimistic hell that they would save us from if we just believe their infallible basketball opinions......

To be fair, Positive fans are positive every season. Negative fans are also negative every season. Every season the Knicks suck or have done something embarrassing that plunges the franchise to new lows so if you think about it, the negative fans have been right since like 2013. And if you skip that one season in 2012, negative fans have been right for a looooooonnng time lol.

No, they aren't "right", they have no special insight or basketball understanding, they are simply miserable people who want to make everyone else miserable. The Knicks not winning isn't a validation of their miserable opinion.

So what you’re saying is that being negative on the Knicks means you have a miserable life? Right..

[K_ick_God]

Daily rem

inder that you can love the Knox pick without trashing other kids drafted and you can not love the Knox pick without saying that the others 59 picks are better than him

lol this should be written into our Terms of Use.

The interview MPj gave on Draft night was interesting. He seems to be pretty defensive and I think he know the situation is not good.

Sucks what a roll of the dice it all is. Sports guarantees players nothing really, though he'll still walk away with millions of dollars in the short run.

I'm not even thinking about MPj though. I realize he was a major talent but if he can't pass some physicals still, after returning to play last season, then I think that's a problem. Also you'd think that he would return to school so he can prove himself and get healthy. The fact that he declared anyway tells you he IS trying to lock down the rookie salary as soon as he can.

For him it's at least an insurance policy. But it does seem to make the risk of taking him seemingly higher. There's a reason he is declaring after barely playing, and I don't think that reason is that he thought he'd go top 3 anyway. Follow?

[magnumt]

Daily rem

inder that you can love the Knox pick without trashing other kids drafted and you can not love the Knox pick without saying that the others 59 picks are better than him

lol this should be written into our Terms of Use.

The interview MPj gave on Draft night was interesting. He seems to be pretty defensive and I think he know the situation is not good.

Sucks what a roll of the dice it all is. Sports guarantees players nothing really, though he'll still walk away with millions of dollars in the short run.

I'm not even thinking about MPj though. I realize he was a major talent but if he can't pass some physicals still, after returning to play last season, then I think that's a problem. Also you'd think that he would return to school so he can prove himself and get healthy. The fact that he declared anyway tells you he IS trying to lock down the rookie salary as soon as he can.

For him it's at least an insurance policy. But it does seem to make the risk of taking him seemingly higher. There's a reason he is declaring after barely playing, and I don't think that reason is that he thought he'd go top 3 anyway. Follow?

MPJr played games from Day 1. It's why he has ALWAYS been at the bottom of my Draft list. The injury risks were just too great.

He withheld medical reports from some teams then wondered why they didn't risk a LOTTERY pick on him!

He lied on Draft night, after being picked by saying he was fine. Then Denver later came out and said they might have to shut him down for the very least, Summer League, and more than likely Red Shirting his Rookie year.

Can't believe this clown MPJr is playing the victim here and looking for a comeback pity story/angle!



--Mags

[stuporman]

To be fair, Positive fans are positive every season. Negative fans are also negative every season. Every season the Knicks suck or have done something embarrassing that plunges the franchise to new lows so if you think about it, the negative fans have been right since like 2013. And if you skip that one season in 2012, negative fans have been right for a looooooonnng time lol.

No, they aren't "right", they have no special insight or basketball understanding, they are simply miserable people who want to make everyone else miserable. The Knicks not winning isn't a validation of their miserable opinion.

So what you’re saying is that being negative on the Knicks means you have a miserable life? Right..

Wrong. How people act comes from their perception, what's going on inside them flows out from them in everything they do and say. So if they are miserable on the inside they will see the world through that miserable filter and act/say miserable things.

Someone could be living in a mansion and still be miserable, someone can be living in a tent and be at peace. The conditions of one's life doesn't necessarily dictate how someone feels about it. So, no, I didn't say they have a "miserable life".

[Jalen Bluntson]

He has the measurements to defend but at the moment based on stats, not really.

This is a concern for me. All I keep hearing about is his length and athleticism. Not his defense. His IQ. His ability to create his own shot. It's all about age/length/athleticism.

Apparently he only started organized ball 3 years ago.... Thata wild

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Absolutely. I was unaware of that. Makes me a little more relaxed having picked him. He still needs to become a pretty solid contributor for the pick to make me happy.

I'm ok with the direction of the team. Now we need to see just how good this new coaching staff is at player development. The entire roster needs work.

[whocares1]

No, they aren't "right", they have no special insight or basketball understanding, they are simply miserable people who want to make everyone else miserable. The Knicks not winning isn't a validation of their miserable opinion.

So what you’re saying is that being negative on the Knicks means you have a miserable life? Right..

Wrong. How people act comes from their perception, what's going on inside them flows out from them in everything they do and say. So if they are miserable on the inside they will see the world through that miserable filter and act/say miserable things.

Someone could be living in a mansion and still be miserable, someone can be living in a tent and be at peace. The conditions of one's life doesn't necessarily dictate how someone feels about it. So, no, I didn't say they have a "miserable life".

I never talked about wealth. You said negative Knicks fans are miserable and while I’m sure some are (bno) I think most aren’t miserable at all, they just have seen the same story many times already. I disagree with what you’re preaching that negativity spreads through all facets of life. If you’re a Warriors fan or something I doubt you’re moping around about them if your personal life sucks. The Knicks just suck dude lol.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Daily rem

inder that you can love the Knox pick without trashing other kids drafted and you can not love the Knox pick without saying that the others 59 picks are better than him

lol this should be written into our Terms of Use.

The interview MPj gave on Draft night was interesting. He seems to be pretty defensive and I think he know the situation is not good.

Sucks what a roll of the dice it all is. Sports guarantees players nothing really, though he'll still walk away with millions of dollars in the short run.

I'm not even thinking about MPj though. I realize he was a major talent but if he can't pass some physicals still, after returning to play last season, then I think that's a problem. Also you'd think that he would return to school so he can prove himself and get healthy. The fact that he declared anyway tells you he IS trying to lock down the rookie salary as soon as he can.

For him it's at least an insurance policy. But it does seem to make the risk of taking him seemingly higher. There's a reason he is declaring after barely playing, and I don't think that reason is that he thought he'd go top 3 anyway. Follow?

MPJr played games from Day 1. It's why he has ALWAYS been at the bottom of my Draft list. The injury risks were just too great.

He withheld medical reports from some teams then wondered why they didn't risk a LOTTERY pick on him!

He lied on Draft night, after being picked by saying he was fine. Then Denver later came out and said they might have to shut him down for the very least, Summer League, and more than likely Red Shirting his Rookie year.

Can't believe this clown MPJr is playing the victim here and looking for a comeback pity story/angle!



--Mags

a lot about this young man doesn't sit well with me. yet, our draft representation (fans) always make us look silly.

[god shammgod]

jbreeze is miserable now because he doesn't like the knox pick ? lol

also, who cares if fiz influenced the pick or not. fiz might know what he's doing more than perry/mills. and if they felt really strongly against it, i doubt they'd let him have his way.

[Jeff Van Gully]

No, they aren't "right", they have no special insight or basketball understanding, they are simply miserable people who want to make everyone else miserable. The Knicks not winning isn't a validation of their miserable opinion.

So what you’re saying is that being negative on the Knicks means you have a miserable life? Right..

Wrong. How people act comes from their perception, what's going on inside them flows out from them in everything they do and say. So if they are miserable on the inside they will see the world through that miserable filter and act/say miserable things.

Someone could be living in a mansion and still be miserable, someone can be living in a tent and be at peace. The conditions of one's life doesn't necessarily dictate how someone feels about it. So, no, I didn't say they have a "miserable life".

deep

[stuporman]

So what you’re saying is that being negative on the Knicks means you have a miserable life? Right..

Wrong. How people act comes from their perception, what's going on inside them flows out from them in everything they do and say. So if they are miserable on the inside they will see the world through that miserable filter and act/say miserable things.

Someone could be living in a mansion and still be miserable, someone can be living in a tent and be at peace. The conditions of one's life doesn't necessarily dictate how someone feels about it. So, no, I didn't say they have a "miserable life".

I never talked about wealth. You said negative Knicks fans are miserable and while I’m sure some are (bno) I think most aren’t miserable at all, they just have seen the same story many times already. I disagree with what you’re preaching that negativity spreads through all facets of life. If you’re a Warriors fan or something I doubt you’re moping around about them if your personal life sucks. The Knicks just suck dude lol.

I can see you haven't grasped the point of what I said and choose to interpret it through your own distorted perception of it and not understand what I actually say, this doesn't surprise me.

We're done here.

[Jeff Van Gully]

So what you’re saying is that being negative on the Knicks means you have a miserable life? Right..

Wrong. How people act comes from their perception, what's going on inside them flows out from them in everything they do and say. So if they are miserable on the inside they will see the world through that miserable filter and act/say miserable things.

Someone could be living in a mansion and still be miserable, someone can be living in a tent and be at peace. The conditions of one's life doesn't necessarily dictate how someone feels about it. So, no, I didn't say they have a "miserable life".

I never talked about wealth. You said negative Knicks fans are miserable and while I’m sure some are (bno) I think most aren’t miserable at all, they just have seen the same story many times already. I disagree with what you’re preaching that negativity spreads through all facets of life. If you’re a Warriors fan or something I doubt you’re moping around about them if your personal life sucks. The Knicks just suck dude lol.

funny you single out bno as a negative person with a negative life. while his antics are world-renowned, the few times he shows himself or speaks about personal things he has some intriguing and refreshing perspectives.

i try not to even assume what people are like outside of their message board handles unless they volunteer.

this might be a better conversation on a thread for this purpose where people can expound on their personal perspectives. why do we desire to generalize so much anyway?

[god shammgod]

So what you’re saying is that being negative on the Knicks means you have a miserable life? Right..

Wrong. How people act comes from their perception, what's going on inside them flows out from them in everything they do and say. So if they are miserable on the inside they will see the world through that miserable filter and act/say miserable things.

Someone could be living in a mansion and still be miserable, someone can be living in a tent and be at peace. The conditions of one's life doesn't necessarily dictate how someone feels about it. So, no, I didn't say they have a "miserable life".

deep

[Jalen Bluntson]

No, they aren't "right", they have no special insight or basketball understanding, they are simply miserable people who want to make everyone else miserable. The Knicks not winning isn't a validation of their miserable opinion.

So what you’re saying is that being negative on the Knicks means you have a miserable life? Right..

Wrong. How people act comes from their perception, what's going on inside them flows out from them in everything they do and say. So if they are miserable on the inside they will see the world through that miserable filter and act/say miserable things.

Someone could be living in a mansion and still be miserable, someone can be living in a tent and be at peace. The conditions of one's life doesn't necessarily dictate how someone feels about it. So, no, I didn't say they have a "miserable life".

I agree with your point for the most part. I also understand completely why people can/should be negative about things concerning this team. They have done a TON of negative things. It's just that there was a bunch of people that are ALWAYS negative and when pressed...the reason is...just because. I no longer read those posts.

I really hope as a fan base and, as a fan forum, we can all start praising more and more things they do right. Not blind homerism. Just honest optimism. That requires the franchise to start getting things right!!! I'll accept a missed pick. That's not the easiest thing to do while building a team. Players bust. Others blossom "out of nowhere". As long as we are building the right way and not what we've had since Jimmy Sniffles took over.

This new FO has me optimistic beyond the usual silver lining approach I try to have every year. Now I'll let it play out. This path has not been done before since I've been a fan. It's a lot better than anything I've seen in my "adult" years as a fan. It's not a quick fix. I hope we have the right people running things FINALLY. Time will reveal that sooner or later. Fingers crossed.

[god shammgod]

bno seems like a fun loving person actually. this is all just shtick to him.

[magnumt]

lol this should be written into our Terms of Use.

The interview MPj gave on Draft night was interesting. He seems to be pretty defensive and I think he know the situation is not good.

Sucks what a roll of the dice it all is. Sports guarantees players nothing really, though he'll still walk away with millions of dollars in the short run.

I'm not even thinking about MPj though. I realize he was a major talent but if he can't pass some physicals still, after returning to play last season, then I think that's a problem. Also you'd think that he would return to school so he can prove himself and get healthy. The fact that he declared anyway tells you he IS trying to lock down the rookie salary as soon as he can.

For him it's at least an insurance policy. But it does seem to make the risk of taking him seemingly higher. There's a reason he is declaring after barely playing, and I don't think that reason is that he thought he'd go top 3 anyway. Follow?

MPJr played games from Day 1. It's why he has ALWAYS been at the bottom of my Draft list. The injury risks were just too great.

He withheld medical reports from some teams then wondered why they didn't risk a LOTTERY pick on him!

He lied on Draft night, after being picked by saying he was fine. Then Denver later came out and said they might have to shut him down for the very least, Summer League, and more than likely Red Shirting his Rookie year.

Can't believe this clown MPJr is playing the victim here and looking for a comeback pity story/angle!



--Mags

a lot about this young man doesn't sit well with me. yet, our draft representation (fans) always make us look silly.

Which young man? MPJr? If so, then totally agree! He's been suspect to me as well since Day 1.

Yes, totally agree. Those guys who were in the audience, especially the father/son duo, are TOTAL clowns looking for their faded 15 minutes of "fame."

I so wanted to smack the stupid off of the dad's face when he kept thumbing down right after Knox was announced! People like that are gimmicks!

--Mags