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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#121 » by No-Man » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:47 am

Rafael122 wrote:Do you guys think he was a reach at 15? Wiz fans are **** on this pick lol especially when Robert Williams was there.

I mean he was not getting past the Spurs probably, so not a reach per se, but not a guy I'd drafted that high, to be honest the guys from this range to the 40s were basically even for the most part, so Troy could've gone anywhere for me, but I'd have preferred gambling on another type of prospect, he is young, smart, can really pass and dribble for been 6'7 and has defensive tools, WAS is gonna need a new wing either after they move on from Otto or Oubre (can't keep both) so I get the logic, but there were better prospects on the board.

Bob Williams obviously, but I'd say Zhaire, Walker and Huerter as wings also, those don't have classical F size, so maybe that was part of why, but they can play the 3 as well as Troy might really

With the others is more complicated (I liked Okobo and Musa better but I understand why they wouldn't go that route) but those 4 guys ahead of Brown are obvious to me.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#122 » by realEAST » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:42 am

Rafael122 wrote:Do you guys think he was a reach at 15? Wiz fans are **** on this pick lol especially when Robert Williams was there.


He wasn't a reach, was projected in this area and was among best prospects available if you look at his age, tools and position he plays.

Now, speaking of need, it is more debatable, but of there is a trade pending including one of Porter/Oubre for ready now big, he becomes good fit too.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#123 » by prime1time » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:32 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:Do you guys think he was a reach at 15? Wiz fans are **** on this pick lol especially when Robert Williams was there.


sorry to say but yes. A really bad reach and head scratching pick. I understand the Wizards badly need a better 2nd unit because they fall apart when their big 3 are out so it's not bad to think about taking guards or wings. They just should have chosen different ones with both of their picks. They had the worst draft and will remain stuck in perpetual mediocrity. I hate that we picked Robert Williams but even he would have much a better pick, specifically for you, then Brown.

How do you know how good he'll be in 3 or 4 years?
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#124 » by GimmeDat » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:01 am

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Rafael122 wrote:Do you guys think he was a reach at 15? Wiz fans are **** on this pick lol especially when Robert Williams was there.


I like him a heap. He's one of the youngest players in the draft, is such an intelligent player, plays both ends positively, and is a smooth, fluid athlete. The issue right now is the jumper but again, he's super young, and the form looks good. I think he has a reasonably high ceiling. I was willing for the Bulls to trade up to 14 to get him, honestly.

Williams seemed like the obvious pick because of the talk about you guys needing an athletic C, but there's a reason he dropped to 27, I wouldn't question it too much. Unlike Williams, there's no questioning Brown's A+ character and feel for the game, you should love him.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#125 » by No-Man » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:04 pm

By the way what people like about him, other than size, passing and maybe D versatility in time, is his leadership, how vocal he is, and work ethic, tons of people praising that, which, at his size, and already advanced feel, screams +10-15 years career as a rotation player, just not sure he can be much due to how little he has athletically

the shooting is better than the numbers, so maybe
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#126 » by No-Man » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:06 pm

I think the Wiz are going to end up doing something like trading Gortat into some team's capspace, maybe getting a 2nd, look for Dallas to be interested and then trading Porter for Cousins in a S&T

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Post#127 » by Rafael122 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:26 pm

Fischella wrote:I think the Wiz are going to end up doing something like trading Gortat into some team's capspace, maybe getting a 2nd, look for Dallas to be interested and then trading Porter for Cousins in a S&T

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It's entirely possible, or they feel that they're not confident in paying Oubre the amount of $ it's gonna take to keep him.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#128 » by The-Power » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:33 pm

Fischella wrote:I think the Wiz are going to end up doing something like trading Gortat into some team's capspace, maybe getting a 2nd, look for Dallas to be interested and then trading Porter for Cousins in a S&T

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That'd be a great core for the Pelicans: talented on both ends, a great fit and all players close to or right in their prime.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#129 » by No-Man » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:07 pm

Apparently, Zach Lowe reported, Denver was offering to every team with the chance to draft Zhaire Smith, so basically only Washington, because Phoenix was always trying to trade for Mikal and would not have been interested, a package of this ilk

Beasley, Lyles, Juancho or Lydon, 1 of the 4

a lightly protected 2019 1st round pick

a 2nd round pick this year, I believe Wiz had nº44

cash

for 15th

How in the world the Wizards didn't do that instead of drafting Troy Brown?
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Post#130 » by Rafael122 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:14 pm

Fischella wrote:Apparently, Zach Lowe reported, Denver was offering to every team with the chance to draft Zhaire Smith, so basically only Washington, because Phoenix was always trying to trade for Mikal and would not have been interested, a package of this ilk

Beasley, Lyles, Juancho or Lydon, 1 of the 4

a lightly protected 2019 1st round pick

a 2nd round pick this year, I believe Wiz had nº44

cash

for 15th

How in the world the Wizards didn't do that instead of drafting Troy Brown?


I haven't seen that anywhere. I would assume they went ahead and grabbed Brown anyway b/c that offer was never on the table.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#131 » by No-Man » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:27 pm

Rafael122 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Apparently, Zach Lowe reported, Denver was offering to every team with the chance to draft Zhaire Smith, so basically only Washington, because Phoenix was always trying to trade for Mikal and would not have been interested, a package of this ilk

Beasley, Lyles, Juancho or Lydon, 1 of the 4

a lightly protected 2019 1st round pick

a 2nd round pick this year, I believe Wiz had nº44

cash

for 15th

How in the world the Wizards didn't do that instead of drafting Troy Brown?


I haven't seen that anywhere. I would assume they went ahead and grabbed Brown anyway b/c that offer was never on the table.


Lowe reported that in his last pod, so yeah, gonna take his word on it
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#132 » by Rafael122 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:30 pm

Fischella wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Apparently, Zach Lowe reported, Denver was offering to every team with the chance to draft Zhaire Smith, so basically only Washington, because Phoenix was always trying to trade for Mikal and would not have been interested, a package of this ilk

Beasley, Lyles, Juancho or Lydon, 1 of the 4

a lightly protected 2019 1st round pick

a 2nd round pick this year, I believe Wiz had nº44

cash

for 15th

How in the world the Wizards didn't do that instead of drafting Troy Brown?


I haven't seen that anywhere. I would assume they went ahead and grabbed Brown anyway b/c that offer was never on the table.


Lowe reported that in his last pod, so yeah, gonna take his word on it


OK, now I know what you're talking about. There was a part about Smith earlier in the pod but I listened to that part like 2 times and I still wasn't sure what team was offering what for Smith.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#133 » by Catchall » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:37 am

He just needs to work on his body and his shooting. A couple years from now, if he's 6'8", 220 lbs with a handle, passing and three levels of scoring, you're going to be happy with him. I would generally place him in the same tier as Knox and SGA as a prospect.

If Zhaire really develops his game, maybe he becomes something like a Doug Christie. A good player, but not enough to get upset passing on.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#134 » by Rafael122 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:43 pm

After watching a couple of summer league games, I'm getting more comfortable with the pick. This kid is a basketball player, he's not going to have the insane athleticism as some of his peers, but...it's hard to describe, he's like the perfect Spurs player, almost like a Kyle Anderson type but with a higher upside.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#135 » by Upperclass » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:53 pm

Reminds me of Jared Dudley.. will probably be a solid rotation guy
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Post#136 » by GeorgeMarcus » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:30 pm

Rafael122 wrote:After watching a couple of summer league games, I'm getting more comfortable with the pick. This kid is a basketball player, he's not going to have the insane athleticism as some of his peers, but...it's hard to describe, he's like the perfect Spurs player, almost like a Kyle Anderson type but with a higher upside.


Draft express compared him to Steve Smith and I think that's fair. He's a bonafide NBA player and a relative steal at #15.
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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#137 » by doordoor123 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:26 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:After watching a couple of summer league games, I'm getting more comfortable with the pick. This kid is a basketball player, he's not going to have the insane athleticism as some of his peers, but...it's hard to describe, he's like the perfect Spurs player, almost like a Kyle Anderson type but with a higher upside.


Draft express compared him to Steve Smith and I think that's fair. He's a bonafide NBA player and a relative steal at #15.


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Re: Troy Brown 

Post#138 » by GimmeDat » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:12 pm

He's balling.. I love him.
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Post#139 » by Upperclass » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:00 am

He actually reminds me of Penny.. his feet are magic
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Post#140 » by atlantabbq99 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:18 am

I would have never drafted Troy in the first round because of his poor 3pt shooting in college, but he is making noise in the SL, i hope he can carry this into the regular season and turn out to be the steal of the draft. I hope he makes his way into a starting spot. Good luck to him in DC.

He reminds me of a poor man's Eddie Jones.

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