Political Roundtable Part XXI

stilldropin20 · Post #201 » by **stilldropin20** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:59 pm

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FAH1223 · Post #203 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:32 pm

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stilldropin20 · Post #204 » by **stilldropin20** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:35 pm

Donald trump fulfills yet ANOTHER campaign promise. Most transparent president of all time. And therefore the Most honest president of all time. Greatest president of the modern era. No president has ever been more efficient in executing his campaign agenda to the people that voted for him. Simply, The Goat.

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stilldropin20 · Post #205 » by **stilldropin20** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:50 pm

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gtn130 · Post #207 » by **gtn130** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:04 pm

Schumer, Pelosi and the gang all need to be primaried.

stilldropin20 · Post #208 » by **stilldropin20** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:09 pm

gtn130 wrote:Schumer, Pelosi and the gang all need to be primaried.

exactly!!!! They are NOT doing libs, dems, nor the country any good. This policy of obstruct/obfuscate gets nothing done!!!!! You guys created all the divide. THEY created it! They and comey, obama, yates, lynch, brennen, clapper.

They ran to CNN with this resist policy starting the day trump won. like a bunch of 12 year olds. The trumpsters got through it. And now you guys are completely on the outside looking in!! You are getting NO input on policy.

And instead you guys whould have simply worked with trump. I mean he is working with Kim Jong Un for christs sake!!! if you give him something, he will work with YOU!!! But you HAVE to compromise. You have to let him win. He IS playing to win for his voters.

So they only way to win with trump is to become a supporter. ITS. THE. ONLY. SHOT. YOU. GOT. Or get nothing done. be NO PART of the legislation for the next 6 years. Cuz you will NOT beat him in 2020. You got NO ONE that can beat him.

gtn130 · Post #209 » by **gtn130** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:18 pm

SD20, we don't agree on literally any subject.

gtn130 · Post #210 » by **gtn130** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:33 pm

closg00 wrote:
TGW wrote:There's no such thing as left wing conspiracy theories?

Guess you've never seen the Rachel Maddow show before...

You can’t equate fact-based reporters like Maddow with likes of lunatic, fact-free spewers like Alex Jones and Sean Hannity.

Bothsidesism is a drug

dckingsfan · Post #211 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:45 pm

gtn130 wrote:
closg00 wrote:
TGW wrote:There's no such thing as left wing conspiracy theories?
Guess you've never seen the Rachel Maddow show before...

You can’t equate fact-based reporters like Maddow with likes of lunatic, fact-free spewers like Alex Jones and Sean Hannity.

Bothsidesism is a drug

And a good one if you value multi-variable solutions. In this particular case you would have lunacy/liar multipliers on Jones and Hannity.

TGW · Post #212 » by **TGW** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:29 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:
TGW wrote:There's no such thing as left wing conspiracy theories?

Guess you've never seen the Rachel Maddow show before...

Give some examples.

Watch on YouTube

She has become the left's Glenn Beck.

TGW · Post #213 » by **TGW** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:35 pm

closg00 wrote:
TGW wrote:There's no such thing as left wing conspiracy theories?

Guess you've never seen the Rachel Maddow show before...

You can’t equate fact-based reporters like Maddow with likes of lunatic, fact-free spewers like Alex Jones and Sean Hannity.

LOL

So the peepee tape, Putin puppet reports aren't conspiracies? She must be the only one with proof of Russia collusion...on the planet.

Kanyewest · Post #214 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:36 pm

Mueller Poised to Zero In on Trump-Russia Collusion Allegations

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-26/mueller-poised-to-zero-in-on-trump-russia-collusion-allegations

I_Like_Dirt · Post #215 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:46 pm

gtn130 wrote:Bothsidesism is a drug

Your problem with respect to your theory on conspiracy theorists is that you're choosing to impose arbitrary sides to an issue that doesn't actually see any and really has nothing to do with the sides you're trying to use. As for more educated people being less likely to believe in conspiracy theories? Maybe. More knowledge doesn't necessarily make you less susceptible. There's a reason for the existence of the cliché that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. In university, I had several friends who clearly believed the government was doing specific things in specific ways, only to get government jobs in various capacities and completely change their minds when they realized what government actually did, and more importantly what it didn't do.

As for being more susceptible to one party intentionally exploiting conspiracy theories more than the other? Yeah, I'm right there with you. To take that and draw the conclusion that those voters are more susceptible to conspiracy theories, there really isn't any evidence to suggest as much. And if you talk to people, it's pretty easy to recognize that, no matter where the line falls, this isn't a one or the other kind of thing. I spent time back in a Russian university in the early 2000s. It was phenomenal to see otherwise rational and well-educated people struggle against propaganda - people who rallied against the fall of the Soviet Union and protested back then. It's an immense struggle. And we aren't even talking about different kinds of conspiracy theories designed to target specific subsets of beliefs and just a widespread full-on assault to the senses in sometimes subtle and other times not so subtle ways. And this was before Putin finished with his Medvedev ruse.

Trying to impose some artificial sides over how propaganda and conspiracy theories work is adding totally irrelevant information which makes things harder to truly assess. It's like if you look and find out one side is using green in their messaging more and the other isn't, then look to find if that one side is wearing green more or is more predisposed to view green more favorably and you find out, no, that isn't actually true - there might be some slight differences but overall green is something that can be used to get people to like you but it's viewed favorably roughly equally on the each side of your issue, one side just happens to be using green more and exploiting it to their advantage.

Bothsidesism is a problem in quite a few cases, including how the parties are using conspiracy theories. It isn't true in terms of who is an isn't susceptible to conspiracy theories in general.

Kanyewest · Post #216 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:46 pm

TGW wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:
TGW wrote:There's no such thing as left wing conspiracy theories?

Guess you've never seen the Rachel Maddow show before...

Give some examples.

Watch on YouTube

She has become the left's Glenn Beck.

So what did Trump get out of this meeting for the US? Yes Trump averted war, but he is the one who was warmongering in the first place with his previous "diplomacy".

Zonkerbl · Post #217 » by **Zonkerbl** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:51 pm

TGW wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:
TGW wrote:There's no such thing as left wing conspiracy theories?

Guess you've never seen the Rachel Maddow show before...

Give some examples.

Watch on YouTube

She has become the left's Glenn Beck.

So you can't articulate it yourself? I have to watch 18 minutes of Russia sponsored propaganda?

Zonkerbl · Post #218 » by **Zonkerbl** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:53 pm

TGW wrote:
closg00 wrote:
TGW wrote:There's no such thing as left wing conspiracy theories?

Guess you've never seen the Rachel Maddow show before...

You can’t equate fact-based reporters like Maddow with likes of lunatic, fact-free spewers like Alex Jones and Sean Hannity.

LOL

So the peepee tape, Putin puppet reports aren't conspiracies? She must be the only one with proof of Russia collusion...on the planet.

You sound really, really ignorant and brainwashed. Didn't your mom teach you to think for yourself?

TGW · Post #219 » by **TGW** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:59 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
TGW wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:
Give some examples.

Watch on YouTube

She has become the left's Glenn Beck.

So what did Trump get out of this meeting for the US? Yes Trump averted war, but he is the one who was warmongering in the first place with his previous "diplomacy".

That's besides the point. WTF does NK peace talks have to do with Russia? Absolutely freaking nothing, but Maddow found a way to somehow crowbar Russia into some weird conspiracy she made up in her head. I honestly hope you're not trying to defend her.

TGW · Post #220 » by **TGW** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:00 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:
TGW wrote:
closg00 wrote:
You can’t equate fact-based reporters like Maddow with likes of lunatic, fact-free spewers like Alex Jones and Sean Hannity.

LOL

So the peepee tape, Putin puppet reports aren't conspiracies? She must be the only one with proof of Russia collusion...on the planet.

You sound really, really ignorant and brainwashed. Didn't your mom teach you to think for yourself?

You're a fukking idiot, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. I know that you slob DNC nuts for a living, and by proxy you're a partisan hack, but not everyone lives inside your lame bubble.