Bulls Free Agency - Merged

[holv03]

Key will be 1 year deals. Nwaba and Noel would be my targets

Why would we even go after Noel if we have Carter, Lopez, Felicio, Lauri and Portis. We are all set for big men.

I still believe Noel can be a special defensive player. For a cheap 2 year contract what's the worst that happen? If he does pan out your leverage on Bobby Portis has increased. Plus Felicio, Lopez are essentially gone at this point.

If Felicio wasn't on the team then I would consider Noel as a backup to Carter but we don't need him.

[drosestruts]

People are really overstating the impact of that Felicio contract, it's 8 million a year.

Hardly the albatross contract people try to make it out to be.

I think people are honestly still adjusting to the raised salary floor. $8m is MLE money, couple years ago that was $5m. It's percentage wise the same.

I also am still holding out on Felicio and hope he can put something together, no sure what happened last year but he played with no confidence at all. I feel like I've typed this out multiple times but Felicio can shoot, he routinely caught the ball beyond the 3-point line and was WIDE OPEN. If he starts taking that shot some times AND hits them, it would open up things for us so much! Our offense wasn't that great last year, a wide-open Felicio 3 was probably a better option than a contested Dunn mid-range 2.

Make people guard you Felicio! Play with some confidence! He could be an elite offensive rebounder capable of stretching the floor, would be a pretty unique back-up center to have. Think of how spirit crushing it is when Tristain Thompson grabs an offensive rebound, now image if he could knock down a 3!?!?!

Unfortunately I don't see Felicio ever fixing his fouling issues enough to play big minutes, but 10-15 minutes a night bringing energy, boarding and occasionally hitting a shot would be a huge boost to our bench unit.

Ok, Felicio rant over.

[holv03]

Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.

[aguifs]

Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.

Nice!!!

[Bulls_Fan]

Our FA targets should be cheap end of hte bench guys and summer league castoffs. Maybe we'll get lucky on someone.

[Dresden]

Woj said To watch us as a sneaky team in FA... wonder what that means.

We're signing LeBron.

Woj knows his stuff but felt like he was talking out of his ass with that statement. This team isn't ready for the big names in free agency. I see them signing maybe one veteran to add to the team, won't be a starter nor cost a lot of $$$$

Yeah, the Bulls are rarely ready to sign a big free agent. That's why we don't win titles like LA and Boston and SA do. I read a quote from Magic Johnson saying that if he doesn't sign a big time free agent within two years, he will re-sign. Now what does LA have that we don't in terms of personnel. Ok, they have Ball and Ingram, two top 5 picks. We have Lauri and Carter and Dunn and Lavine.

Maybe you could say we need to wait a year or two until Lauri and Carter have more experience and are ready to win. But Paxson should in that case be getting his ducks in a row to hit free agency, if not next summer, for sure the summer after that.

You really don't win much in the nba these days unless you are able to land a big name in free agency. CLE got Lebron, GS got Durant, BOS got Hayward, HOU got Paul. Or you have to be able to make a deal for a superstar (again HOU with Harden, CLE with Lebron, BOS with Kyrie).

Just depending on the draft takes too damn long and requires too much luck. How many top 5 picks did Philly need before they finally struck gold with Embiid and Simmons?

[Repeat 3-peat]

Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.

Why Hood? don't we already have enough wings?

SG: LaVine, Nwaba
SF: Holiday, Valentine, Hutchison

Rather them just keep Sean Kildraftpick.

If they sign an outside FA I hope it's a vet. I've mentioned it a few times but I'd love if Rondo came back. Believe both he and the front office left on good terms so It think he would consider coming back.

[MrFortune3]

Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.

Makes sense. We need more shooting and length at the wing so Hood fits well.

[Clint Eastwood]

People are really overstating the impact of that Felicio contract, it's 8 million a year.

Hardly the albatross contract people try to make it out to be.

I think people are honestly still adjusting to the raised salary floor. $8m is MLE money, couple years ago that was $5m. It's percentage wise the same.

I also am still holding out on Felicio and hope he can put something together, no sure what happened last year but he played with no confidence at all. I feel like I've typed this out multiple times but Felicio can shoot, he routinely caught the ball beyond the 3-point line and was WIDE OPEN. If he starts taking that shot some times AND hits them, it would open up things for us so much! Our offense wasn't that great last year, a wide-open Felicio 3 was probably a better option than a contested Dunn mid-range 2.

Make people guard you Felicio! Play with some confidence! He could be an elite offensive rebounder capable of stretching the floor, would be a pretty unique back-up center to have. Think of how spirit crushing it is when Tristain Thompson grabs an offensive rebound, now image if he could knock down a 3!?!?!

Unfortunately I don't see Felicio ever fixing his fouling issues enough to play big minutes, but 10-15 minutes a night bringing energy, boarding and occasionally hitting a shot would be a huge boost to our bench unit.

Ok, Felicio rant over.

The problem is with that contract we have to keep him on the roster. This means another player can’t be kept. Unfortunately he is not an NBA caliber player and I hated the minute the contract was signed. He should never, ever dress for a game again. That’s why its a terrible contract. He was given a 4yr MLE deal?! Terrible decision. And no one was offering him squat, and we bid against ourselves thinking we were smart and knew the market. One of the worst decisions in Bulls history in my opinion. John Koncakian in its proportion.

[Clint Eastwood]

Woj said To watch us as a sneaky team in FA... wonder what that means.

We're signing LeBron.

Woj knows his stuff but felt like he was talking out of his ass with that statement. This team isn't ready for the big names in free agency. I see them signing maybe one veteran to add to the team, won't be a starter nor cost a lot of $$$$

Yeah, the Bulls are rarely ready to sign a big free agent. That's why we don't win titles like LA and Boston and SA do. I read a quote from Magic Johnson saying that if he doesn't sign a big time free agent within two years, he will re-sign. Now what does LA have that we don't in terms of personnel. Ok, they have Ball and Ingram, two top 5 picks. We have Lauri and Carter and Dunn and Lavine.

Maybe you could say we need to wait a year or two until Lauri and Carter have more experience and are ready to win. But Paxson should in that case be getting his ducks in a row to hit free agency, if not next summer, for sure the summer after that.

You really don't win much in the nba these days unless you are able to land a big name in free agency. CLE got Lebron, GS got Durant, BOS got Hayward, HOU got Paul. Or you have to be able to make a deal for a superstar (again HOU with Harden, CLE with Lebron, BOS with Kyrie).

Just depending on the draft takes too damn long and requires too much luck. How many top 5 picks did Philly need before they finally struck gold with Embiid and Simmons?

Sorry, on my IPad I accidentally and one’ed your post. What year were you born? We don’t win titles? Strange comment. You have at least read about the 2 3-peats, right? Please don’t tell me it’s because we had Jordan. Lakers had magic and Kareem, then Kobe and Shaq. Boston had bird, Michael etc, then Garnett pierce rondo and Allen. Spurs had Duncan Robinson ginobili parker. Please.

And as far as free agency in todays age, the warriors won based on drafted players then added Durant to become even better. You can’t sign a player that doesnt want to come here. Lots of factors at play more than gar pax. What they are doing is developing young assets while maintaining flexibility to strike if the right guy wants to come here or if the right disgruntled star wants to be traded here. It’s the best plan.

[gmoney2]

Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.

Hood seemed to struggle playing alongside Lebron. He was basically nonexistent in the playoffs. I don't see him being an allstar and at best might be a Wilson Chandler type player. Also, I think he'll want to get paid, so I don't know whether we can get him at a reasonable price. A SF that may be a sleeper is Kyle Anderson, who is a RFA. He is a good defender with a 15.9 PER (Hood has a 14.38 PER). His glaring weakness is his 3pt % at 33.3%. He did shoot it decently the year before at 37.5%. He is only 24 and played with Zach at UCLA. 6'9" with a 7'3" wingspan. Spurs probably match any reasonable offer though, so we'd have to overpay to get him.

[gmoney2]

And as far as free agency in todays age, the warriors won based on drafted players then added Durant to become even better. You can’t sign a player that doesnt want to come here. Lots of factors at play more than gar pax. What they are doing is developing young assets while maintaining flexibility to strike if the right guy wants to come here or if the right disgruntled star wants to be traded here. It’s the best plan.

Pretty much this. Be smart. Be patient. Maintain cap flexibility and be ready to take advantage of an opportunity only if one presents itself.

[holv03]

Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.

Why Hood? don't we already have enough wings?

SG: LaVine, Nwaba
SF: Holiday, Valentine, Hutchison

Rather them just keep Sean Kildraftpick.

If they sign an outside FA I hope it's a vet. I've mentioned it a few times but I'd love if Rondo came back. Believe both he and the front office left on good terms so It think he would consider coming back.

It doesn't mean we will land Hood but Bulls will should interest in free agency which we already know they might just contact his agent have a few talks and once they see the price they will back off. As for Holiday he is more of a shooting guard.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.

Why Hood? don't we already have enough wings?

SG: LaVine, Nwaba
SF: Holiday, Valentine, Hutchison

Rather them just keep Sean Kildraftpick.

If they sign an outside FA I hope it's a vet. I've mentioned it a few times but I'd love if Rondo came back. Believe both he and the front office left on good terms so It think he would consider coming back.

It doesn't mean we will land Hood but Bulls will should interest in free agency which we already know they might just contact his agent have a few talks and once they see the price they will back off. As for Holiday he is more of a shooting guard.

I understand but still don't care to see them go after Hood, who isn't that good anyway.

Holiday is more of a SG but I see him starting at the 3 to start the season.

[Dresden]

We're signing LeBron.

Woj knows his stuff but felt like he was talking out of his ass with that statement. This team isn't ready for the big names in free agency. I see them signing maybe one veteran to add to the team, won't be a starter nor cost a lot of $$$$

Yeah, the Bulls are rarely ready to sign a big free agent. That's why we don't win titles like LA and Boston and SA do. I read a quote from Magic Johnson saying that if he doesn't sign a big time free agent within two years, he will re-sign. Now what does LA have that we don't in terms of personnel. Ok, they have Ball and Ingram, two top 5 picks. We have Lauri and Carter and Dunn and Lavine.

Maybe you could say we need to wait a year or two until Lauri and Carter have more experience and are ready to win. But Paxson should in that case be getting his ducks in a row to hit free agency, if not next summer, for sure the summer after that.

You really don't win much in the nba these days unless you are able to land a big name in free agency. CLE got Lebron, GS got Durant, BOS got Hayward, HOU got Paul. Or you have to be able to make a deal for a superstar (again HOU with Harden, CLE with Lebron, BOS with Kyrie).

Just depending on the draft takes too damn long and requires too much luck. How many top 5 picks did Philly need before they finally struck gold with Embiid and Simmons?

Sorry, on my IPad I accidentally and one’ed your post. What year were you born? We don’t win titles? Strange comment. You have at least read about the 2 3-peats, right? Please don’t tell me it’s because we had Jordan. Lakers had magic and Kareem, then Kobe and Shaq. Boston had bird, Michael etc, then Garnett pierce rondo and Allen. Spurs had Duncan Robinson ginobili parker. Please.

And as far as free agency in todays age, the warriors won based on drafted players then added Durant to become even better. You can’t sign a player that doesnt want to come here. Lots of factors at play more than gar pax. What they are doing is developing young assets while maintaining flexibility to strike if the right guy wants to come here or if the right disgruntled star wants to be traded here. It’s the best plan.

I was born in 1960 actually, so I remember well the 3 peats, thank you. But the last one ended 20 years ago, and since then we have only once even been in a conference final, let alone an nba final. You don't see the Boston's and the Laker's of the league having that long of a dry spell, do you?

It's just a difference in approach. LA comes right out and talks about itself as a prime free agent destination, and they are in on just about every big name free agent sweepstakes. Chicago almost acts like it's accepted that it's a second tier or even third tier destination, and seems to give up before the game even starts.

I'd like to see our front office be much more aggressive in figuring out a plan to lure free agents here. I don't buy the excuse that free agents don't want to come to CHI, or that the Bulls can never compete in that market. Why not? Houston seems to. Boston does, and they don't have anything over us in terms of weather or what not.

I'm not strictly blaming Paxson- I think this comes from Reinsdorf more than anyone. but we need a new approach- one that is fresher, and more in keeping with how the league works these days.

[MisterRoy]

Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.

Why Hood? don't we already have enough wings?

SG: LaVine, Nwaba
SF: Holiday, Valentine, Hutchison

Rather them just keep Sean Kildraftpick.

If they sign an outside FA I hope it's a vet. I've mentioned it a few times but I'd love if Rondo came back. Believe both he and the front office left on good terms so It think he would consider coming back.

It doesn't mean we will land Hood but Bulls will should interest in free agency which we already know they might just contact his agent have a few talks and once they see the price they will back off. As for Holiday he is more of a shooting guard.

I think Hood would be a good pickup. Dude is 6'8". He could be our starting 3. Dunn - LaVine - Hood - Lauri - Carter.


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[MisterRoy]

And we need to stop with Nwaba at the 3. 6'4"...


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[Dresden]

Why Hood? don't we already have enough wings?

SG: LaVine, Nwaba
SF: Holiday, Valentine, Hutchison

Rather them just keep Sean Kildraftpick.

If they sign an outside FA I hope it's a vet. I've mentioned it a few times but I'd love if Rondo came back. Believe both he and the front office left on good terms so It think he would consider coming back.

It doesn't mean we will land Hood but Bulls will should interest in free agency which we already know they might just contact his agent have a few talks and once they see the price they will back off. As for Holiday he is more of a shooting guard.

I think Hood would be a good pickup. Dude is 6'8". He could be our starting 3. Dunn - LaVine - Hood - Lauri - Carter.


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Hood is pretty one dimensional though- he can score, which we need, but he does very little else. And he's not a 3 pt shooter.

[MisterRoy]

It doesn't mean we will land Hood but Bulls will should interest in free agency which we already know they might just contact his agent have a few talks and once they see the price they will back off. As for Holiday he is more of a shooting guard.

I think Hood would be a good pickup. Dude is 6'8". He could be our starting 3. Dunn - LaVine - Hood - Lauri - Carter.


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Hood is pretty one dimensional though- he can score, which we need, but he does very little else. And he's not a 3 pt shooter.

Hood is a 36.9% career 3pt shooter. Good enough for me.


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[League Circles]

Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.

I believe this is your honest account of what you've heard, but it would be disastrous IMO.

Waaaaay too many wing players with expectations to play:

Hood
Holiday
Lavine
Valentine
Hutchison
Nwaba

I don't care that much if these are for one year contracts but we would not have bird rights on Hood or Nwaba. Which in my opinion kind of defeats the purpose.