Keita Bates-Diop thread

[minimus]

I think this guy can play center in the NBA eventually

If he is strong and quick as Dray Green, then it is possible. He is long enough to play 5.

I also think with his 7.4 wingspan he can in the modern NBA. I know people question his physicality, but I hate saying a guy isn't active on defense when he's his team's main offensive weapon. At OSU, KBD was their No. 1 offensive weapon and needed to stay on the floor. He had to avoid foul trouble. In the pros, he can be a lot more physical.

I hope that Gibson can teach him how to play effective defense. Because KBD seems to be a good offensive player, coupled with above average defense he can play full time PF next to KAT

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[Vindicater]

The NBA draft is now so professional that I don't believe so much in guys who fall. They fall for a reason.

I hope he turns out but I reckon he will be gone in 2 seasons.

The steals in the second round are nearly always surprise picks. They are never picks that slide.

[KGdaBom]

The NBA draft is now so professional that I don't believe so much in guys who fall. They fall for a reason.

I hope he turns out but I reckon he will be gone in 2 seasons.

The steals in the second round are nearly always surprise picks. They are never picks that slide.

Do you have statistics to back this up?

[Klomp]

The NBA draft is now so professional that I don't believe so much in guys who fall. They fall for a reason.

I hope he turns out but I reckon he will be gone in 2 seasons.

The steals in the second round are nearly always surprise picks. They are never picks that slide.

Not sure what you mean by the bolded.

I think it depends on the expectations being placed on them. What constitutes a second round steal or even a second round value? Was Mbah a Moute a bad 2nd round pick just because he didn't surprise everyone by turning into an all-star? There's a wide margin between all-star and someone out of the league in two seasons.

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From midseason

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[Klomp]

During Bates-Diop’s downtime, he watched old game tape, studying both his own film and that of other players, paying attention to details such as footwork and in-game tendencies in an attempt to sharpen his mental approach to the game. He also continued to develop his body. Coming in as a freshman, Bates-Diop was the textbook definition of lanky, with pipe-cleaner limbs accentuated by his 7-foot-3 wingspan. Now, he’s filled out his frame with muscle that better allows him to withstand the rigors of playing in the low post, even sliding over to defend opposing centers on multiple occasions this season.

“He can guard five positions (point guard, shooting guard, small forward, power forward and center) and he can play multiple positions offensively,” Holtmann said. “And it’s why he’s going to have a long, successful pro career, because he does bring that versatility people are looking for.”


Each offseason, Bates-Diop has worked to add a new element to his repertoire — this past year, he focused on his mid-range game — helping him develop into a player who can score from anywhere on the court. He’s also grown as a leader both on and off the court, though that’s been a less natural progression for the admittedly reserved young man.

“If I talk, I want to have something to say. I’m not just going to talk to talk,” said Bates-Diop, who was born near Sacramento, California, and spent most of his childhood in Normal, Illinois, save for those two years in Florida. “People still feel like I’m not all the way there yet, but I’m more vocal than I was even last year.”

http://www.columbusalive.com/entertainment/20180307/keita-bates-diop-leads-rising-ohio-state-basketball-team

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[Domejandro]

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Not even comparing them, but that is literally the same thing they said about Draymond Green.

[minimus]

The NBA draft is now so professional that I don't believe so much in guys who fall. They fall for a reason.

I hope he turns out but I reckon he will be gone in 2 seasons.

The steals in the second round are nearly always surprise picks. They are never picks that slide.

Grizzlies Last 10 First-Round Picks
2017: Traded for Jon Leuer
2016: Wade Baldwin
2015: Jarell Martin
2014: Jordan Adams
2013: Traded for Battier
2012: Tony Wroten
2011: Traded for Ronnie Brewer
2010: Xavier Henry, Greivis Vasquez
2009: Thabeet
2008: O.J. Mayo

0/10

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Yes, some guys fall for a reason. But some teams are bad for a reason as well. MEM front office completely suck at drafting. SAC owner pretend to be a basketball professional. Some team have built a system to scout, draft and develop players, some have not. Hope we can build something similar to BOS, SAS.

[Swish4]

Bates-Diop's outside shooting is going to help this team more than people realize

[Slim Tubby]

Bates-Diop's outside shooting is going to help this team more than people realize

Watch his game against #1 MSU from 01/07/18 and you'll see plenty to get excited about!

[KGdaBom]

I think we are all pretty excited to get KBD. One thing that just hit me is that 2nd round picks are often a longshot just to make the team. Last year our first round pick was relegated almost exclusively to the G League. I believe there is zero concern about this late second round pick making the team and it is just a question of how significant his impact will be. That is amazingly fortunate.

[minimus]

I think we are all pretty excited to get KBD. One thing that just hit me is that 2nd round picks are often a longshot just to make the team. Last year our first round pick was relegated almost exclusively to the G League. I believe there is zero concern about this late second round pick making the team and it is just a question of how significant his impact will be. That is amazingly fortunate.

If I were Thibs I would ask Gibson to be a mentor for KBD from the day one. If KBD learns how to play efficient defense while being slightly undersized (Gibson is undersized as well, but he has 7'4 wingspan) he can be our long-term solution as stretch PF.

[MN7725]

I'm curious if Wolves will use portion of MLE to sign KBD to three-year or four-year deal
minimum can only be for two years,same with bi-annual exception

If Wolves truly were "considering him at #20", that would be a no-brainer to get the extra team control

[KGdaBom]

Nice thing about second round picks IIRC is that you can sign them for any amount you want while first round picks are under very specific rules. Or has that changed?

[MN7725]

Nice thing about second round picks IIRC is that you can sign them for any amount you want while first round picks are under very specific rules. Or has that changed?

Have to have cap space to offer more than minimum, or use exceptions

part of MLE is Wolves only way to get more than two years of team control

[Swish4]

I also think locking up KBD for 4 years is a very good idea. Already has a very developed game and seems like a perfect fit on this roster. By far the best 2nd round pick (aside from Pek) in Wolves history IMO, and I surely would almost never advise throwing longterm money at a 2nd rounder, be he is a definite exception.

[KGdaBom]

Nice thing about second round picks IIRC is that you can sign them for any amount you want while first round picks are under very specific rules. Or has that changed?

Have to have cap space to offer more than minimum, or use exceptions

part of MLE is Wolves only way to get more than two years of team control

Can the MLE be used to sign draft picks?

[MN7725]

Nice thing about second round picks IIRC is that you can sign them for any amount you want while first round picks are under very specific rules. Or has that changed?

Have to have cap space to offer more than minimum, or use exceptions

part of MLE is Wolves only way to get more than two years of team control

Can the MLE be used to sign draft picks?

yes, Clips used MLE to sign Evans and Thornwell, their two 2017 2nd round picks, to 3 year deals last offseason
Thornwell's 3rd year was non-guaranteed
Evans had 3rd year team option

Can do things like that