Portland's Off-Season Has Officially Arrived

[Blazinaway]

one guy I hear almost nothing about is UFA Derrick Favors who is still 26 - hard to believe. Over the yrs he has bulked up and now needs to be considered a C at 6'10 and 265. He has had injury issues over the yrs but had a solid season last yr. Wonder where he goes?
also it seems he may come pretty cheap, MLE or perhaps 10 mil per, would anyone consider him as an alternative to Nurk if Nurks wants 18-20 mil per? not suggesting this just considering options

first off, I'd bet a lot that Nurk wants at least 18-20M a year. The question is how malleable the Blazers will be to that. Compared to other young bigs who have been paid, that's actually a bargain but this is an outlier off-season

as for Favors, I have no clue what his salary will be. He is a 2-way player but he has the distinction on not doing anything at a high level. He's efficient on offense but he creates very little of it on his own. He's not a strong rebounder but he's not a bad one either. He has some defensive versatility but he's not a great defender...both Ed Davis and Aminu more then double his DRPM

how much is all that worth? I suppose, if Favors was open to a S&T, Portland could use their TPE on him....that could get him up to 13.5-14.5M/year depending on if it was a 3 or 4 year deal. Then he could be a Ed Davis replacement, but I question how much better then Davis he really is:

http://bkref.com/tiny/qeLyr

but that would require the cooperation of Utah and the Jazz would not do it without some significant incentive IMO. Like maybe a future 1st round pick.

Thx Wiz, I was wondering what his offense/defense stats were. If you don't mind, how does a guy like Alex Len look basis the offensive/defensive stats? thx in advance

[Brandon-Clyde]

May be nothing but Moe just bought a house down in LA
http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-moe-harkless-sherman-oaks-20180627-story.html

[ETGoHome]

one guy I hear almost nothing about is UFA Derrick Favors who is still 26 - hard to believe. Over the yrs he has bulked up and now needs to be considered a C at 6'10 and 265. He has had injury issues over the yrs but had a solid season last yr. Wonder where he goes?
also it seems he may come pretty cheap, MLE or perhaps 10 mil per, would anyone consider him as an alternative to Nurk if Nurks wants 18-20 mil per? not suggesting this just considering options

first off, I'd bet a lot that Nurk wants at least 18-20M a year. The question is how malleable the Blazers will be to that. Compared to other young bigs who have been paid, that's actually a bargain but this is an outlier off-season

as for Favors, I have no clue what his salary will be. He is a 2-way player but he has the distinction on not doing anything at a high level. He's efficient on offense but he creates very little of it on his own. He's not a strong rebounder but he's not a bad one either. He has some defensive versatility but he's not a great defender...both Ed Davis and Aminu more then double his DRPM

how much is all that worth? I suppose, if Favors was open to a S&T, Portland could use their TPE on him....that could get him up to 13.5-14.5M/year depending on if it was a 3 or 4 year deal. Then he could be a Ed Davis replacement, but I question how much better then Davis he really is:

http://bkref.com/tiny/qeLyr

but that would require the cooperation of Utah and the Jazz would not do it without some significant incentive IMO. Like maybe a future 1st round pick.

Signing a free agent via S&T is a long shot because it would hard cap Portland. The only way it would be feasible is if Nurkic leaves or takes the QO (not ideal). If Nurkic re-signs at a reasonable number and they're able to dump one of Leonard, Harkless, and Turner then it might also be possible. Still a pretty unlikely option.

[JasonStern]

Anthony for Harkless and Leonard gives OKC an upgrade in Harkless and saves ~$6.2 million next season.

not a legal trade....Blazers would have to add Swanigan or make it Turner instead of one of those guys, and again it bollixes OKC in 2019-20

trade worked on the ESPN trade machine, but that also still uses this season's salary.

regardless, Turner doesn't have that kind of value, which is sad because Anthony might be bought out.

Portland could also use their TPE to absorb Abrines and/or Singler, reducing their tax hit in 2018-19 and (Singler only) 2019-20.

Portland gets worse next season while adding 60M in salary and tax...yikes!

you asked why the Thunder would ever consider trading Anthony's expiring for future salary obligations and I explained how - short term tax avoidance while returning at least one serviceable player. obviously that isn't going to end well short-term for Portland.

[zzaj]

May be nothing but Moe just bought a house down in LA
http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-moe-harkless-sherman-oaks-20180627-story.html

That's a nice looking place!

If I had a 40M contract I might spend 3.5M on a home like this in Sherman Oaks, too!

[Wizenheimer]

3 days left till the end of season

Blazers made the no-brain move of extending the QO to Nurkic

3 decisions left for this season; one is if the Blazers pick up the option on Layman. The other two decisions are whetehr or not they extend the QO's to Napier and Connaughton. Napier's QO is 3.45M; Pat's is 1.84M. The risk to portland, especially in Napier's case is if he just accepted the QO and played for 3.45M this year. If Portland is hoping Baldwin fills Napier's role next season, then there would be little reason for Portland to extend the QO. And with Trent and Simons on board, Pat seems unneeded considering he really hasn't progressed that much over 3 seasons....and he'll turn 26 next season

[DusterBuster]

May be nothing but Moe just bought a house down in LA
http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-moe-harkless-sherman-oaks-20180627-story.html

That's a nice looking place!

If I had a 40M contract I might spend 3.5M on a home like this in Sherman Oaks, too!

Yep, I wouldn't read too much into it. A lot of players have homes in LA.

[plyrically]

May be nothing but Moe just bought a house down in LA
http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-moe-harkless-sherman-oaks-20180627-story.html

That's a nice looking place!

If I had a 40M contract I might spend 3.5M on a home like this in Sherman Oaks, too!

Yep, I wouldn't read too much into it. A lot of players have homes in LA.

Let me play devil's advocate and speculate we're a 3rd wheel facilitating a Kawhi to LAL trade.

[zzaj]

That's a nice looking place!

If I had a 40M contract I might spend 3.5M on a home like this in Sherman Oaks, too!

Yep, I wouldn't read too much into it. A lot of players have homes in LA.

Let me play devil's advocate and speculate we're a 3rd wheel facilitating a Kawhi to LAL trade.

Expand your thoughts DEVIL! What do the Blazers get for giving up Mo?

[Blazinaway]

Yep, I wouldn't read too much into it. A lot of players have homes in LA.

Let me play devil's advocate and speculate we're a 3rd wheel facilitating a Kawhi to LAL trade.

Expand your thoughts DEVIL! What do the Blazers get for giving up Mo?

I would not mind sending Mo out and something else and get Kuzma back

[zzaj]

Let me play devil's advocate and speculate we're a 3rd wheel facilitating a Kawhi to LAL trade.

Expand your thoughts DEVIL! What do the Blazers get for giving up Mo?

I would not mind sending Mo out and something else and get Kuzma back

I wish too...unfortunately the Blazers have nothing else too add that could match the value of Kuzma. Add this to the fact that the salaries/value would be inverse in any trade and it's a non-starter.

Kuzma on the Blazers would have to involve CJ, and because of his salary, that will never happen.

[Brandon-Clyde]

Expand your thoughts DEVIL! What do the Blazers get for giving up Mo?

I would not mind sending Mo out and something else and get Kuzma back

I wish too...unfortunately the Blazers have nothing else too add that could match the value of Kuzma. Add this to the fact that the salaries/value would be inverse in any trade and it's a non-starter.

Kuzma on the Blazers would have to involve CJ, and because of his salary, that will never happen.

Don't forget there is another team in LA. They may have interest in Mo for when Gallinari is injured. I could see a Mo for Boban and Miles Bridges. Portland would need to add value but Clippers get a young sf(plus whatever Portland added) without adding much salary and Portland gets the SFOTF to pair with Collins

[DusterBuster]

Don't forget there is another team in LA. They may have interest in Mo for when Gallinari is injured. I could see a Mo for Boban and Miles Bridges. Portland would need to add value but Clippers get a young sf(plus whatever Portland added) without adding much salary and Portland gets the SFOTF to pair with Collins

That's where my head went with it too. Clippers just allowed Jordan to go out and find himself a trade partner in a opt-in and trade deal. Portland could potentially be a 3rd wheel there to help facilitate that. From the sounds of things, Jordan to Dallas is pretty much a done deal, now it just depends on what pieces are moving and if there's another team involved for some reason.

Not saying that's likely or anything, but I think it is more likely than Harkless ending up with the Lakers as part of a Kawhi trade.

[Soulyss]

Expand your thoughts DEVIL! What do the Blazers get for giving up Mo?

I would not mind sending Mo out and something else and get Kuzma back

I wish too...unfortunately the Blazers have nothing else too add that could match the value of Kuzma. Add this to the fact that the salaries/value would be inverse in any trade and it's a non-starter.

Kuzma on the Blazers would have to involve CJ, and because of his salary, that will never happen.

Actually that isn't necessarily true... there are lots of ways to work a three-way where CJ goes to the Spurs, and Portland eats Deng's contract (which gives us even more expiring deals on same time frame of Turner, Mo, etc.)

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7078795

This example would have Portland getting Ingram & Kuzima back for giving up CJ, along with eating Deng's and Patty's contracts. SAS would get it's back court of the future in CJ + Ball and would remain competitive in the West with the SAS taking back no bad money. This is the kind of deal where CJ gets dealt, where you get 2 SOLID assets back that long term could be better than the one you gave up. Patty can play alongside Lillard and would be a nice part of the rotation while Deng + Turner + Mo + Meyers gives you a TON of space expiring the same year. It likely won't give you cap room, but it would give you the opportunity to pounce on a big name a year from now.

It probably needs tweaked, but I could see something like this working. LAL then signs two max-deals (Lebron + ?) and everyone is happy?

[Soulyss]

Don't forget there is another team in LA. They may have interest in Mo for when Gallinari is injured. I could see a Mo for Boban and Miles Bridges. Portland would need to add value but Clippers get a young sf(plus whatever Portland added) without adding much salary and Portland gets the SFOTF to pair with Collins

That's where my head went with it too. Clippers just allowed Jordan to go out and find himself a trade partner in a opt-in and trade deal. Portland could potentially be a 3rd wheel there to help facilitate that. From the sounds of things, Jordan to Dallas is pretty much a done deal, now it just depends on what pieces are moving and if there's another team involved for some reason.

Not saying that's likely or anything, but I think it is more likely than Harkless ending up with the Lakers as part of a Kawhi trade.

If Mo got us Miles Bridges I would do a backflip and happily post the video of me being an internet on Youtube

[Masterfully]

Don't forget there is another team in LA. They may have interest in Mo for when Gallinari is injured. I could see a Mo for Boban and Miles Bridges. Portland would need to add value but Clippers get a young sf(plus whatever Portland added) without adding much salary and Portland gets the SFOTF to pair with Collins

That's where my head went with it too. Clippers just allowed Jordan to go out and find himself a trade partner in a opt-in and trade deal. Portland could potentially be a 3rd wheel there to help facilitate that. From the sounds of things, Jordan to Dallas is pretty much a done deal, now it just depends on what pieces are moving and if there's another team involved for some reason.

Not saying that's likely or anything, but I think it is more likely than Harkless ending up with the Lakers as part of a Kawhi trade.

If Mo got us Miles Bridges I would do a backflip and happily post the video of me being an internet on Youtube

I’ll do a synchronized back flip with you.

Mo ain’t bringing in Bridges. Not without some major sweetener going out.

[Brandon-Clyde]

Don't forget there is another team in LA. They may have interest in Mo for when Gallinari is injured. I could see a Mo for Boban and Miles Bridges. Portland would need to add value but Clippers get a young sf(plus whatever Portland added) without adding much salary and Portland gets the SFOTF to pair with Collins

That's where my head went with it too. Clippers just allowed Jordan to go out and find himself a trade partner in a opt-in and trade deal. Portland could potentially be a 3rd wheel there to help facilitate that. From the sounds of things, Jordan to Dallas is pretty much a done deal, now it just depends on what pieces are moving and if there's another team involved for some reason.

Not saying that's likely or anything, but I think it is more likely than Harkless ending up with the Lakers as part of a Kawhi trade.

If Mo got us Miles Bridges I would do a backflip and happily post the video of me being an internet on Youtube

Well as I said Mo+something else+ absorbing Boban's contract. BTW looking at the Clippers roster they are suffering from a dearth of guards(Rivers traded, Bradley a UFA, Beverly coming off an injury) They have their rookie, Wesley Johnson and Louis Williams so maybe they have Anfernee Simons in their sight

[DusterBuster]

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Looks like the Blazers are starting to take the Spurs approach to bringing in overseas talent that's NBA ready but gets overlooked a bit. James Nunnally sounds like a solid under-the-radar pickup.

https://fansided.com/2018/02/12/james-nunnally-nba-role-player-europe/

The TL;DR is that he's 6'7, 200lb with an impressive wingspan. Posted a 18 PER, 20% USG, 2.2% STL% and shot 51% from 3 last season on 3.75 attempts in 56 games/21 minutes with a 69% TS. Athletic and a good spot-up shooter from the forward position.

[DusterBuster]

Hassan Whitesite and CJ are apparently hanging out together in Miami atm....

https://www.instagram.com/stories/3jmccollum/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/stories/hassanwhiteside/?hl=en

[Wizenheimer]

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Looks like the Blazers are starting to take the Spurs approach to bringing in overseas talent that's NBA ready but gets overlooked a bit. James Nunnally sounds like a solid under-the-radar pickup.

https://fansided.com/2018/02/12/james-nunnally-nba-role-player-europe/

The TL;DR is that he's 6'7, 200lb with an impressive wingspan. Posted a 18 PER, 20% USG, 2.2% STL% and shot 51% from 3 last season on 3.75 attempts in 56 games/21 minutes with a 69% TS. Athletic and a good spot-up shooter from the forward position.

interesting....a Layman replacement?

he's 28 so he's certainly been around

college stats:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/james-nunnally-1.html