Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[bebopdeluxe]

Idk. In the best case scenarion the 2021 pick wont be a significant contributor until about 2024. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

Deng is contributing how?

Because with Deng likely comes Ingram. The single best piece San Antonio is likely to acquire in any deal.

He is not better than Jaylen Brown or Dario Saric. Stop.

I have had it with this “Ingram is all THAT” ish from Lakers fans. He is a nice player but I could come up with at least 10-15 young players that are better than him. He is a sub-14 PER guy with an eFG of less than 50%, a negative BPM (-1.3) and a lusty VORP of 0.4.

If Brandon Ingram is the best player that the Spurs can get for Kawhi Leonard, they are screwed.

[LAL]

Saric, Roco, zhaire and the miami pick sixers got from us is better than taking Deng back

Only if they are still trying to contend. In reality, if they trade Kawhi they should attempt to rebuild/tank, and in that case 2 years of Deng won't really have any impact on the team and the far greater upside of Ingram than anything the Sixers would offer would be well worth it.

Ingram has no upside worth talking about. He's a neg RPM, sub-15 PER talent. Shooting is nothing to write home about(53 TS). Injury prone too. What a great prospect. Def worth taking on Deng's horrible contract. If Pop/Buford want to drive the franchise out of the city, there's quicker ways to do it than forcing the fans to endure years of watching leftover garbage from the Lakers. Might as well trade Kawhi to OKC for Carmelo and be done with it.

Sixers package is better by default because those youngsters haven't been tainted with the cancer known as the Lakers youth development program.

So salty. I love it. Enjoy the remaining days of Lakers suckage.

[LAL]

Deng is contributing how?

Because with Deng likely comes Ingram. The single best piece San Antonio is likely to acquire in any deal.

He is not better than Jaylen Brown or Dario Saric. Stop.

I have had it with this “Ingram is all THAT” ish from Lakers fans. He is a nice player but I could come up with at least 10-15 young players that are better than him. He is a sub-14 PER guy with an eFG of less than 50%, a negative BPM (-1.3) and a lusty VORP of 0.4.

If Brandon Ingram is the best player that the Spurs can get for Kawhi Leonard, they are screwed.

Yep, the Spurs are screwed. They ruined their relationship with an MVP player and now he wants out. Not much they can do about it anymore except take what they can get.

Those stats aren’t too relevant. BI is 20 so he is clearly still a prospect, and from what he has shown he is clearly a very good one. Your attempts to portray him as a finished product is pure bias.

[jstross]

Because with Deng likely comes Ingram. The single best piece San Antonio is likely to acquire in any deal.

Leonard >>>> than Ingram and it's not close so why the heck would the Spurs take on Deng for an inferior piece? In conference to boot. Makes no sense at all.

I guess if you think Leonard will stay a Spur long term. That doesn’t seem to be too popular of an opinion though. He wants to leave so the Spurs would be wise to take what they can get.

And the Lakers have no package that can match the Sixers or Celtics among other teams. Remove the Deng contract in any Leonard deal since it isn't happening, unless the Lakers offered Kuzma, Ingram, Ball, Deng and a 1st. And that's not happening.

[Gus McCrae]

You're missing the obvious.

Scenario 1: Wait for Kawhi, PG stays in OKC. Lebron isn't coming to waste a year with those scrubs in LA.

Scenario 2: Wait for Kawhi, convince PG to come for max and get Lebron 1+1. Lakers won't have cap space to sign Kawhi to a max next year.

The only way the Lakers can get Lebron is to either land Kawhi THIS year or sign PG. Given Lebron want's to decide quickly the Lakers HAVE to do whatever it takes to land Kawhi. The Spurs know it and are playing hardball b/c they have Philly in the back pocket as a fallback option.

Sorry you have it backwards we don’t HAVE to do anything. All 3 of Lebron, PG13 and Lebron have either directly or indirectly implied they want to play for the Lakers. We have capspace for 2 of them and can keep our entire core. No need to panic and gut our roster for Kawhi.

Yeah and Lebron just recently implied that he doesn't want to go to LA without another superstar already signed up. PG has implied he might return to OKC. Soooooooo..... if you don't get Kawhi now and PG takes awhile to figure things out or stays with OKC you don't get Lebron. It's that simple.

Also, Lebron, PG, Lonzo, Ingram and Kuzma aren't getting past Houston or Warriors.

Good for Lebron, last I checked he doesn’t guarantee a ring either. Point is, the Spurs are getting lowballed for Kawhi since he wants to play for the Lakers. They can have him this season and lose him for nothing or take a fair offer from us (guessing Kuzma and Ingram.) We can sign him outright next year but th Spurs can’t trade him next year.


This isn’t a situation where we only have room for one guy and must add Kawhi via trade to bring Lebron. If PG wants LA and Lebron wants a star to play with him in LA there ya go. PG and Lebron. Easy decision for both. I want Kawhi more than both and would give up 2 of our 3 high value guys to get him. But I would be extremely disappointed if we unloaded Ball, Kuz and Ingram for him and don’t expect that’s what we would do.

[woosah]

I wish i knew who the players were but it's not smart for the lakers (or any other team) to let it get out. Remember when Odom ended up with hurt feelings because his name was in rumors? The lakers don't want to hurt any of the young guys confidence if things don't end up working out for a trade.

[inquisitive]

Just do it after July 4th.

[PGDynasty24]

I wish i knew who the players were but it's not smart for the lakers (or any other team) to let it get out. Remember when Odom ended up with hurt feelings because his name was in rumors? The lakers don't want to hurt any of the young guys confidence if things don't end up working out for a trade.

Totally different situations entirely. Odom had been with the Lakers for years and had a bond with the city and the team and had won 2 championships. And Odom wasn't just in rumors(like most NBA players), he was ACTUALLY traded until Stern vetoed it.

[BVB24]

I’m sure this is entertaining for most of you on this board, but as a lifelong Spurs fan, this royally sucks a fat one. Seeing all these sh*tty trade packages for one of the greatest players in the world and a future HOFer is just a reminder of how badly the Spurs are going to get fleeced in any deal. We’re losing our franchise player, a top 3 player in the league when healthy, and a true MVP candidate in his prime, for a bunch of young role players and future draft picks which will likely fall in the teens-to-20’s and will also result in role players.... This franchise won’t recover from this for a long time.

F***ing sucks. I need a beer.

[Jedi32]

Leonard >>>> than Ingram and it's not close so why the heck would the Spurs take on Deng for an inferior piece? In conference to boot. Makes no sense at all.

I guess if you think Leonard will stay a Spur long term. That doesn’t seem to be too popular of an opinion though. He wants to leave so the Spurs would be wise to take what they can get.

And the Lakers have no package that can match the Sixers or Celtics among other teams. Remove the Deng contract in any Leonard deal since it isn't happening, unless the Lakers offered Kuzma, Ingram, Ball, Deng and a 1st. And that's not happening.

I don't know what deal the spurs will choose but all this nonsense about who has the best package is pure biased speculation. Whatever package the spurs choose will be the best package in their opinion and that's all that matters.

[Jedi32]

I’m sure this is entertaining for most of you on this board, but as a lifelong Spurs fan, this royally sucks a fat one. Seeing all these sh*tty trade packages for one of the greatest players in the world and a future HOFer is just a reminder of how badly the Spurs are going to get fleeced in any deal. We’re losing our franchise player, a future HOFer, a top 3 player in the league when healthy, and a true MVP candidate in his prime, for a bunch of young role players and future draft picks which will likely fall in the teens-to-20’s and will also result in role players....

F***ing sucks. I need a beer.

Honestly I feel for you guys. I remember how much it sucked when we traded Shaq.

[GBBucks]

If I'm Pop and the Spurs, I trade Kawhi to a team not named Lakers, Celtics, Sixers for the best package out of the rest of the offers just to throw a wrench into offseason plans and watch everything burn down around me.

No way do I give the lakers a chance at LBJ/Kawhi/PG for anything less than Ingram, Kuzma, Ball and picks without taking deng back and i'm not even sure if I'd do that considering those 3 players will not be leading the Spurs to the WCF or Finals within the next 5 years with GSW and LAL fielding those teams.

[Vae Victus]

If I'm Pop and the Spurs, I trade Kawhi to a team not named Lakers, Celtics, Sixers for the best package out of the rest of the offers just to throw a wrench into offseason plans and watch everything burn down around me.

No way do I give the lakers a chance at LBJ/Kawhi/PG for anything less than Ingram, Kuzma, Ball and picks without taking deng back and i'm not even sure if I'd do that considering those 3 players will not be leading the Spurs to the WCF or Finals within the next 5 years with GSW and LAL fielding those teams.

As a Lakers fan i sincerely hopes this happens as it means BOS/PHI doesnt turn into a superpower and we Lakers get a nifty chance at signing him outright for pure cap or in S&T.

LAL just needs to sign PG13, trade Deng + stuff for cap, and then sign LBJ. No fuss no muss.

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[TheGOATWill]

I’m sure this is entertaining for most of you on this board, but as a lifelong Spurs fan, this royally sucks a fat one. Seeing all these sh*tty trade packages for one of the greatest players in the world and a future HOFer is just a reminder of how badly the Spurs are going to get fleeced in any deal. We’re losing our franchise player, a future HOFer, a top 3 player in the league when healthy, and a true MVP candidate in his prime, for a bunch of young role players and future draft picks which will likely fall in the teens-to-20’s and will also result in role players....

F***ing sucks. I need a beer.

Take it from a Lakers fan it sucks. The Spurs won 5 titles without an ounce of drama. No side chicks. No DUIs. No Kardashians. Never thought I’d see the day they were involved in a messy divorce from a superstar. Welcome to the club though.


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[lakers2020]

Saric, Roco, zhaire and the miami pick sixers got from us is better than taking Deng back

Only if they are still trying to contend. In reality, if they trade Kawhi they should attempt to rebuild/tank, and in that case 2 years of Deng won't really have any impact on the team and the far greater upside of Ingram than anything the Sixers would offer would be well worth it.

Ingram has no upside worth talking about. He's a neg RPM, sub-15 PER talent. Shooting is nothing to write home about(53 TS). Injury prone too. What a great prospect. Def worth taking on Deng's horrible contract. If Pop/Buford want to drive the franchise out of the city, there's quicker ways to do it than forcing the fans to endure years of watching leftover garbage from the Lakers. Might as well trade Kawhi to OKC for Carmelo and be done with it.

Sixers package is better by default because those youngsters haven't been tainted with the cancer known as the Lakers youth development program.

Lol, this is def one of the worst. Ingram went 18+ppg and 54%+ fg in March. He will get much better physically and mentally.

Ingram will be a top 15 player in the NBA as long as he doesn't suffer a horrific injury or die. Book it.

Honestly I wouldn't trade Ingram for Kawhi. We will get Kawhi for free next year and the Spurs can suck it.

[AussieRules]

Deng is contributing how?

Because with Deng likely comes Ingram. The single best piece San Antonio is likely to acquire in any deal.

He is not better than Jaylen Brown or Dario Saric. Stop.

I have had it with this “Ingram is all THAT” ish from Lakers fans. He is a nice player but I could come up with at least 10-15 young players that are better than him. He is a sub-14 PER guy with an eFG of less than 50%, a negative BPM (-1.3) and a lusty VORP of 0.4.

If Brandon Ingram is the best player that the Spurs can get for Kawhi Leonard, they are screwed.

What were Brown and Saric’s PER, VORP, RPM, eFG and BPM at age 20. Please post them and compare them side by side with Ingram’s, thanks.

[TommyPoints]

Only if they are still trying to contend. In reality, if they trade Kawhi they should attempt to rebuild/tank, and in that case 2 years of Deng won't really have any impact on the team and the far greater upside of Ingram than anything the Sixers would offer would be well worth it.

Ingram has no upside worth talking about. He's a neg RPM, sub-15 PER talent. Shooting is nothing to write home about(53 TS). Injury prone too. What a great prospect. Def worth taking on Deng's horrible contract. If Pop/Buford want to drive the franchise out of the city, there's quicker ways to do it than forcing the fans to endure years of watching leftover garbage from the Lakers. Might as well trade Kawhi to OKC for Carmelo and be done with it.

Sixers package is better by default because those youngsters haven't been tainted with the cancer known as the Lakers youth development program.

Lol, this is def one of the worst. Ingram went 18+ppg and 54%+ fg in March. He will get much better physically and mentally.

Ingram will be a top 15 player in the NBA as long as he doesn't suffer a horrific injury or die. Book it.

Honestly I wouldn't trade Ingram for Kawhi. We will get Kawhi for free next year and the Spurs can suck it.

Brandon, is this one of your burners?