Keita Bates-Diop thread

minimus · Post #101 » by **minimus** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:32 am

MN7725 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Have to have cap space to offer more than minimum, or use exceptions

part of MLE is Wolves only way to get more than two years of team control

Can the MLE be used to sign draft picks?

yes, Clips used MLE to sign Evans and Thornwell, their two 2017 2nd round picks, to 3 year deals last offseason
Thornwell's 3rd year was non-guaranteed
Evans had 3rd year team option

Can do things like that

Then we must sign KBD to long term deal. With non guaranteed options of course

Shaka_Zulu · Post #102 » by **Shaka_Zulu** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:31 pm

You guys getting me exciting before even seeing him. Talking about long term contract before even he has put on the jersey yet.

Hopefully Thibs takes a liking to him, wonder what looks a 2nd rounder will get when a 5th pick struggled for minutes after a while.

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minimus · Post #103 » by **minimus** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:08 pm

Shaka_Zulu wrote:You guys getting me exciting before even seeing him. Talking about long term contract before even he has put on the jersey yet.
Hopefully Thibs takes a liking to him, wonder what looks a 2nd rounder will get when a 5th pick struggled for minutes after a while.

That is why they want to sign him to long term deal with non guaranteed options.

TheDominator273 · Post #104 » by **TheDominator273** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:57 pm

Shaka_Zulu wrote:You guys getting me exciting before even seeing him. Talking about long term contract before even he has put on the jersey yet.

Hopefully Thibs takes a liking to him, wonder what looks a 2nd rounder will get when a 5th pick struggled for minutes after a while.

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Dunn got more minutes than his play deserved his one season here. I don't think we have any worries about KBD/Okogie/Patton getting minutes if they are healthy and they are deserving

wolfen · Post #105 » by **wolfen** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 5:54 pm

Again, yes, only a summer league game but for an older prospect, KBD looks like he needs a ton of work to get stronger. I did not like the way he goes after rebounds, many times he just was able to tip the ball and not grasp it. He's looking very skinny and lacks sudden movement. His length does allow him to make up for his average footspeed on the defensive end, but he's either going to get quicker to play the wing, or stronger to play the 4. On the positive side, he looks like a smart player who doesn't force things and looks like he knows where to be as a team defender. I'd like to see him get the ball in the mid post area a few times and make some quick decisions in that area of the floor, either a quick drive or pullup, or hit a cutter. Hopefully he can channel his inner Kyle Anderson and develop a smart, overall game to overcome some of his below average athleticism and bulk.

AirP. · Post #106 » by **AirP.** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 6:30 pm

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TheProdigy · Post #107 » by **TheProdigy** » Mon Jul 9, 2018 8:44 pm

wolfen wrote:Again, yes, only a summer league game but for an older prospect, KBD looks like he needs a ton of work to get stronger. I did not like the way he goes after rebounds, many times he just was able to tip the ball and not grasp it. He's looking very skinny and lacks sudden movement. His length does allow him to make up for his average footspeed on the defensive end, but he's either going to get quicker to play the wing, or stronger to play the 4. On the positive side, he looks like a smart player who doesn't force things and looks like he knows where to be as a team defender. I'd like to see him get the ball in the mid post area a few times and make some quick decisions in that area of the floor, either a quick drive or pullup, or hit a cutter. Hopefully he can channel his inner Kyle Anderson and develop a smart, overall game to overcome some of his below average athleticism and bulk.

I'm not seeing this below average athleticism you refer to. He's not elite, but I would say he's at least average to above average in terms of leaping and quickness for his size.

He could probably get a little bit stronger, but I wouldn't want him to bulk up to the point that he loses any of his speed.

KGdaBom · Post #108 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Jul 9, 2018 8:59 pm

AirP. wrote:

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I'm just fine with the guaranteed years and I'm so glad we have the third year and bird rights.

vagelis · Post #109 » by **vagelis** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:44 am

I think that he can become a better version of Bjelica. I like KBD more than Tolliver.
He is a very good pick for a late second round pick

wolves_89 · Post #110 » by **wolves_89** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:37 pm

I really like what I've seen from Bates-Diop in summer league. He defends well, has a good looking shot (though I wish he'd hit a few more 3s), and seems to have a high basketball IQ. I can see him having a 10 year career as a 3-and-D combo forward, which is incredible value for a 2nd round pick. The one part of his game that surprised me was that he seems to have a decent floater game when driving to the basket.

Swish4 · Post #111 » by **Swish4** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm

He has a very developed game compared to most draftees these days. Smart, high BB IQ and has great defensive potential as well. Twice the player that Derrick Williams ever was.

Killboard · Post #112 » by **Killboard** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:28 pm

His 3pt touch seems for real. He has a very nice mid range and floating game which could be useful. In defense I like how well he is staying vertical. He is good boxing out opponents and while he hasnt the quickest feet his lenght make UP a lot of ground.

Slim Tubby · Post #113 » by **Slim Tubby** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:29 pm

KBD reminds me a little of Danny Green in some ways.

KGdaBom · Post #114 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:37 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:KBD reminds me a little of Danny Green in some ways.

Reminds me more of a shorter Lamarcus Aldridge.

Slim Tubby · Post #115 » by **Slim Tubby** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:52 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:KBD reminds me a little of Danny Green in some ways.

Reminds me more of a shorter Lamarcus Aldridge.

I wouldn't call KBD "athletic" but I think he's much more fluid of an athlete than Aldridge.

beezy · Post #116 » by **beezy** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:05 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:KBD reminds me a little of Danny Green in some ways.

Reminds me more of a shorter Lamarcus Aldridge.

I wouldn't call KBD "athletic" but I think he's much more fluid of an athlete than Aldridge.

I think KBD will struggle with his lack of athleticism. That will be his NBA Achilles' heel. If he can use bb iq to play the old man game then I think he will stay in the league, but he won't be tearing things up anytime soon.

KGdaBom · Post #117 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:41 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:KBD reminds me a little of Danny Green in some ways.

Reminds me more of a shorter Lamarcus Aldridge.

I wouldn't call KBD "athletic" but I think he's much more fluid of an athlete than Aldridge.

I've always thought Aldridge was very fluid. He's just too much finesse to be elite.

Satch · Post #118 » by **Satch** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:19 am

I know someone who had dinner with KBD last night and spoke very highly of him in terms of character and maturity. Same person had dealings with Dunn two years ago and not impressed with him and was pretty much the opposite..

yojimbo · Post #119 » by **yojimbo** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:48 pm

Not surprised. My brother knows KBD's mom from grad school and said he's a really solid kid.

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Dalvin · Post #120 » by **Dalvin** » Wed Oct 2, 2024 6:58 pm

I think it's this one.
Here you go, minimus!