2018 Summer Big Fish

MasterGMer · Post #1 » by **MasterGMer** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:42 am

Lakers reportedly has to surrender Brandon Ingram, Kuzma and Julius Randle Sign and Trade plus several draft picks to get Kawhi.

LeBron wont meet team executives but will decide before July 4th.

Lakers resumed talk with Spurs about Kawhi and are under tremendous pressure to get the deal done.

Houston still won’t give up hope of landing LeBron.

Do you think Lakers package is much better than Aaron Gordon?

Thought it would be good to have a thread about this FA.

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NBAchamps2017 · Post #2 » by **NBAchamps2017** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:08 am

MasterGMer wrote:Lakers reportedly has to surrender Brandon Ingram, Kuzma and Julius Randle Sign and Trade plus several draft picks to get Kawhi.

LeBron wont meet team executives but will decide before July 4th.

Lakers resumed talk with Spurs about Kawhi and are under tremendous pressure to get the deal done.

Houston still won’t give up hope of landing LeBron.

Do you think Lakers package is much better than Aaron Gordon?

Thought it would be good to have a thread about this FA.

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WOW! Lakers fire sale. Magic Johnson said that he will step down as GM if Lakers cannot strike gold this season and next! I hope our GM has that sense of urgency!

Post #3 » by **Knightro** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:29 am

Shot out of a cannon...

Let Gordon, Birch, Hezonja walk. Get to 16.5M in cap space.

Trade Simmons and Iwundu (6M +1.37M +16.5M in cap space = 23.87M) for Deng (18M) and Ingram (5.7M).

Ingram becomes your new SF to go along with Isaac at PF and Bamba at C. Deng expires at the same time as Biyombo, keeping the 2020 FA window alive and kicking.

Lakers clear another 16.33M in cap space in their LeBron/PG/Boogie/whoever free agency pursuit.

MasterGMer · Post #4 » by **MasterGMer** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:44 am

@Knightro so we use Gordon, Birch and Simmons to get Ingram and Deng? Not gonna happen. We surrender too much and Lakers won’t give up Ingram for us.

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Post #5 » by **Knightro** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:57 am

MasterGMer wrote:@Knightro so we use Gordon, Birch and Simmons to get Ingram and Deng? Not gonna happen. We surrender too much and Lakers won’t give up Ingram for us.

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Just depends on how much you value Gordon on a 20-25M dollar contract v. Ingram with two years left on a rookie deal.

The rest of the guys in the deal are pretty much irrelevant.

pepe1991 · Post #6 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:58 am

Knightro wrote:Shot out of a cannon...

Let Gordon, Birch, Hezonja walk. Get to 16.5M in cap space.

Trade Simmons and Iwundu (6M +1.37M +16.5M in cap space = 23.87M) for Deng (18M) and Ingram (5.7M).

Ingram becomes your new SF to go along with Isaac at PF and Bamba at C. Deng expires at the same time as Biyombo, keeping the 2020 FA window alive and kicking.

Lakers clear another 16.33M in cap space in their LeBron/PG/Boogie/whoever free agency pursuit.

Is there any proof that Ingram is actually that good? He improved from rookie year, but he struggled to stay healthy, his 3 point percentage is nice ( 39% ) but only on 100 attemps , last year was horrid. Still below 70% FTs.
I'm not sold on Lakers players and i belive their stats are super inflated ,especially after Clarkson with Cavs. He averaged 14 on solid percentages , Ingram sits on 16 ppg on 13 shots. He still isn't great offensive player or defender.
Upside is there , he was former 2# pick ,but as i said above, i'm not sure he is as good as his stats suggest. ( especially because how horrific he was in rookie year, had negative win share, 47% TS, below 30% for 3... )

Post #7 » by **Knightro** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:02 am

pepe1991 wrote:Is there any proof that Ingram is actually that good? He improved from rookie year, but he struggled to stay healthy, his 3 point percentage is nice ( 39% ) but only on 100 attemps , last year was horrid. Still below 70% FTs.
I'm not sold on Lakers players and i belive their stats are super inflated ,especially after Clarkson with Cavs. He averaged 14 on solid percentages , Ingram sits on 16 ppg on 13 shots. He still isn't great offensive player or defender.
Upside is there , he was former 2# pick ,but as i said above, i'm not sure he is as good as his stats suggest. ( especially because how horrific he was in rookie year, had negative win share, 47% TS, below 30% for 3... )

Generally I agree with you here.

I don't *know* how good Ingram really is. But I do know he's younger and further away from a big new contract than Gordon which I have a sneaking suspicion could be appealing to Weltman and Hammond.

MasterGMer · Post #8 » by **MasterGMer** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:07 am

No matter how Magic is going in the trade market, I won’t touch Issac or Bamba. It costs us two years of suffering.

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Post #9 » by **Knightro** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:26 am

MasterGMer wrote:No matter how Magic is going in the trade market, I won’t touch Issac or Bamba. It costs us two years of suffering.

Totally agree here.

We will see if they work out or not, but Weltman and Hammond have established that Isaac and Bamba are the building blocks of this team.

MasterGMer · Post #10 » by **MasterGMer** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:56 am

Knightro wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:No matter how Magic is going in the trade market, I won’t touch Issac or Bamba. It costs us two years of suffering.

Totally agree here.

We will see if they work out or not, but Weltman and Hammond have established that Isaac and Bamba are the building blocks of this team.

Wonder what Hennigan was doing for 4 years.

What a garbage! Hope this FO turn this thing around. My guilty hope? I hope they could gamble a little more... not just building this team with Science

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fendilim · Post #11 » by **fendilim** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:06 am

I think Lakers blow uip half their core for KL then sign Lebron. easy.