Welcome Zhaire Smith

MambaJuice · Post #361 » by **MambaJuice** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:09 pm

Fair or unfair, they'll always be linked and compared because they were traded for one another. Besides, we compare and rank draft prospects all the time regardless of position. Certain statistics might not make sense to compare but as overall prospects I don't really see a problem comparing just because they are different types of players.

JoJoEmbiid · Post #362 » by **JoJoEmbiid** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:54 am

I feel we are heavily overvaluing Zhaire. The Suns were going to select DeVincenzo before the Sixers called. That means Smith would’ve gone 17th or later. Those guys usually need a lot more time to develop into good players if they become good at all. He’s also a 6’4 SF, which doesn’t work.

76ciology · Post #363 » by **76ciology** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:30 am

JoJoEmbiid wrote:I feel we are heavily overvaluing Zhaire. The Suns were going to select DeVincenzo before the Sixers called. That means Smith would’ve gone 17th or later. Those guys usually need a lot more time to develop into good players if they become good at all. He’s also a 6’4 SF, which doesn’t work.

1.) honeymoon stage after draft
2.) BB mentioning kawhi and zhaire in same sentence
3.) too much free time
4.) hoping pop gets hyped after reading our posts and trade us kawhi for Zhaire

Arsenal · Post #364 » by **Arsenal** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:45 am

I expect Zhaire to be a massive negative on the court this year. Hopefully he can defend well enough to grab a spot in the rotation. Dude is going to be 19 his entire rookie year. 19 year olds don't make a positive impact unless their name is Jayson Tatum.

Post #365 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:07 am

Read on Twitter

Posted?

His shot is beautiful releasing at apex.

JoJoEmbiid · Post #366 » by **JoJoEmbiid** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:45 am

Not saying I don’t like his form, which is good, I just think we need to calm down because he was a mid to late first rounder that people are acting is a big piece of our young core and is a big trade chip.

MambaJuice · Post #367 » by **MambaJuice** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:27 pm

JoJoEmbiid wrote:Not saying I don’t like his form, which is good, I just think we need to calm down because he was a mid to late first rounder that people are acting is a big piece of our young core and is a big trade chip.

I think it's ok to be excited about Zhaire long term within reason. Anyone who is expecting him to be good this year or next will likely be disappointed. But I am expecting him to at least show some flashes this year due to his athleticism.

septahex · Post #368 » by **septahex** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:44 pm

don't know bout yall doubting thomases, but I expect Zhaire to finish top 3 mvp voting this season.

Sixersftw · Post #369 » by **Sixersftw** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:14 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I wouldn't compare them even if they were the same age. They're just different players with different physical profiles.

I think it's based upon the fact that they are/were both defensive specialists with relentless motors, suspect handles and Jumpers. Flimsy comparison for sure.

Kobblehead · Post #370 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:31 pm

Sixersftw wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I wouldn't compare them even if they were the same age. They're just different players with different physical profiles.

I think it's based upon the fact that they are/were both defensive specialists with relentless motors, suspect handles and Jumpers. Flimsy comparison for sure.

Let's not count that egg of Zhaire's before it hatches. He doesn't have the volume attempts nor strong projectability when it comes to his jumper.

Sixersftw · Post #371 » by **Sixersftw** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:54 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I wouldn't compare them even if they were the same age. They're just different players with different physical profiles.

I think it's based upon the fact that they are/were both defensive specialists with relentless motors, suspect handles and Jumpers. Flimsy comparison for sure.

Let's not count that egg of Zhaire's before it hatches. He doesn't have the volume attempts nor strong projectability when it comes to his jumper.

Oh I'm not. I'm saying they both had suspect handles and suspect jumpers when drafted.

After the Fultz thing, I assume nothing these days when it comes to jumpers. If we drafted a clone of Ray Allen, I'm assuming he's shooting like MKG once he puts on a Sixers jersey.

rzzzzz · Post #372 » by **rzzzzz** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:00 pm

Brett was obviously impressed with him, bringing him back for the 2nd workout to be sure he was all that. (his other workouts apparently went pretty swell as well.) are we really worried that the kid with enough hops and physicality to play pf and even center in college is too slight to guard wings? and instinct and court IQ...underestimate him at your own peril.

ProcessDoctor · Post #373 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:09 pm

My "optimistic" outcome for him is 16-18 productive minutes off the bench. Like, better than TLC or Anderson last season.

Kobblehead · Post #374 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:12 pm

Sixersftw wrote:Oh I'm not. I'm saying they both had suspect handles and suspect jumpers when drafted.

Other than people getting stirred up about video of a hitch, there's nothing suspect about Mikal Bridges' jumper. He's a tried and true, rangy shooter.

Sixersftw · Post #375 » by **Sixersftw** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:37 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:Oh I'm not. I'm saying they both had suspect handles and suspect jumpers when drafted.

Other than people getting stirred up about video of a hitch, there's nothing suspect about Mikal Bridges' jumper. He's a tried and true, rangy shooter.

Well at the same age Bridges jumper wasn't the weapon it is now. Outlier development on the shot for sure (ignore the "when drafted" from my last comment, I lost the thread there).

D3ko · Post #376 » by **D3ko** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:18 pm

Hinkie, i mean Brown has seen where the league goes and has decided to draft a 6 years of contract of a hybrid of Marcus Smart and Avery Bradley.

So this is such an Ainge pick. Real recognise real

Post #377 » by **BullyKing** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:18 am

According to Zach Lowe, Denver was desperately trying to trade their 2019 1st for a second pick in this draft to take Zhaire after selecting Porter.

papajoe · Post #378 » by **papajoe** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:09 am

His lack of ability to create off the dribble is worrying, hope he's in the kawhi package.

papajoe · Post #379 » by **papajoe** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:12 am

So tired of people using Zhaire's age as a positive. Improvement isn't linear, there is no guarantee he will ever get better. Bridges showed improvement every year in college there is no reason he should not continue to improve if we use previous evidence.

Really down on this trade.

LloydFree · Post #380 » by **LloydFree** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:20 am

papajoe wrote:So tired of people using Zhaire's age as a positive. Improvement isn't linear, there is no guarantee he will ever get better. Bridges showed improvement every year in college there is no reason he should not continue to improve if we use previous evidence.

Really down on this trade.

Mikal Bridges isn't anything to cry about. He isn't anything special.