Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[F N 11]

The Spurs finna load up lol

No, we’re not. Spurs are going to get lowballed no matter what they get in return. And if the reports of the Lakers offering Ingram + a 1st Rounder are true, Spurs will close the door on the Lakers and Kawhi will be trade to PHI or BOS for another weak package.

Ingram, Kuzma, 1st, filler sand Hart. All Spurs system type players besides Ingram IMHO.

[xfactor]

Celtics seemed to have the best package in young players and picks with Brown, Rozier, salary dump and pick(s) for Leonard. However, I'm hearing Ainge may go for a straight swap of Kyrie Irving (player option for 2019-20) for Leonard. The latter seems like a better move for the Celtics.

Yeah, but I'm sure the GM's may quarantine Ainge due to all the fleecing he's done. Who would want to do business with him?

[ButCanMarkDunk]

BI + future firsts for KL would be incredible for LAL.

[DROB27]

BI + future firsts for KL would be incredible for LAL.

And yeah they won’t be getting him for that trash

[Darth Celtic]

Celtics seemed to have the best package in young players and picks with Brown, Rozier, salary dump and pick(s) for Leonard. However, I'm hearing Ainge may go for a straight swap of Kyrie Irving (player option for 2019-20) for Leonard. The latter seems like a better move for the Celtics.

Hearing from where? The voices in your head. Take your medicine.

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Spurs do not have any leverage at all, they are at a complete disadvantage.

I think LAL will step their offer up from BI + future 1sts though, maybe packaging JHart and taking back Mills or something.

[DROB27]

Spurs do not have any leverage at all, they are at a complete disadvantage.

I think LAL will step their offer up from BI + future 1sts though, maybe packaging JHart and taking back Mills or something.

Why do people keep saying this ? The lakers need Kawhi to get lebron and probably pg13.

[Ericb5]

Lakers willing to offer Ingram and future first round picks

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23935910/san-antonio-spurs-engaged-los-angeles-lakers-boston-celtics-kawhi-leonard-trade-talks

The question here is whether or not the package that they are part of includes Deng. If the Lakers are trying to dump Deng on the Spurs I think they will never succeed.

Obviously a team with Kawhi and Lebron on it isn’t going to have a very good first round pick so that part is not very valuable either.

Ingram is a terrific prospect that may or may not be an all star someday. He isn’t even close today.

I think that the Spurs will only accept from the Lakers a package that just couldn’t be acceptable to LA. If the Lakers need to renounce Randle, and trade Ingram, Kuzma and Ball then they have nothing other than the city of Los Angeles, and some cap room to improve the team going forward.

Is the city of Los Angeles worth all that to Lebron and Kawhi? It becomes absurd at some point.

Even if LA > Philly as a city in their minds, Philly’s Roster >>>>>>>> LA’s roster post trade.

It’s night and day, AND Philly is in the east.


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[HurricaneKid]

Spurs do not have any leverage at all, they are at a complete disadvantage.

I think LAL will step their offer up from BI + future 1sts though, maybe packaging JHart and taking back Mills or something.

Why do people keep saying this ? The lakers need Kawhi to get lebron and probably pg13.

AND they can't take back salary (Spurs trying to include Pau/Mills)

[TheRealKaboom]

Celtics seemed to have the best package in young players and picks with Brown, Rozier, salary dump and pick(s) for Leonard. However, I'm hearing Ainge may go for a straight swap of Kyrie Irving (player option for 2019-20) for Leonard. The latter seems like a better move for the Celtics.

How is that a good move for the Celtics when he'd just leave a few months later and sign with the Lakers outright? Kawhi grew up in the 909; the Celtics hate is strong there.

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Spurs do not have any leverage at all, they are at a complete disadvantage.

I think LAL will step their offer up from BI + future 1sts though, maybe packaging JHart and taking back Mills or something.

Why do people keep saying this ? The lakers need Kawhi to get lebron and probably pg13.

That is exactly what the Spurs are putting out there to inflate their deal value, when in reality the Lakers DONT need KL.

We have room for two max FAs, and KL is certainly a nice situation that was dropped in their lap.

However, KL wants out of SAS and he wants to play for the Lakers, so SAS demanding a king's ransom for him because "Lebron wont come if KL isnt traded for" is just SAS trying to leverage the situation.

I imagine that when the smoke clears, the LAL will retain most of their young core.

[Traderwest]

Watch out!

Kawhi will be traded as early as today, Magic Johnson.

[Jordan-esque]

BI + future firsts for KL would be incredible for LAL.

And yeah they won’t be getting him for that trash

Trash? Like coming off a season long degenerative muscle injury causing him to miss 73 games.

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Lakers willing to offer Ingram and future first round picks

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23935910/san-antonio-spurs-engaged-los-angeles-lakers-boston-celtics-kawhi-leonard-trade-talks

The question here is whether or not the package that they are part of includes Deng. If the Lakers are trying to dump Deng on the Spurs I think they will never succeed.

Obviously a team with Kawhi and Lebron on it isn’t going to have a very good first round pick so that part is not very valuable either.

Ingram is a terrific prospect that may or may not be an all star someday. He isn’t even close today.

I think that the Spurs will only accept from the Lakers a package that just couldn’t be acceptable to LA. If the Lakers need to renounce Randle, and trade Ingram, Kuzma and Ball then they have nothing other than the city of Los Angeles, and some cap room to improve the team going forward.

Is the city of Los Angeles worth all that to Lebron and Kawhi? It becomes absurd at some point.

Even if LA > Philly as a city in their minds, Philly’s Roster >>>>>>>> LA’s roster post trade.

It’s night and day, AND Philly is in the east.


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Philly isnt being considered by anyone, regardless of roster.

The deal will be done between LAL and SAS - a matter of how much is the question.

[JShuttlesworth]

The way some Philly fans talk you would think they were a half away from winning the chip last season. Your team had a nice run but there's no guarantee they'll be some powerhouse that's just going to wreck the east, let alone the league.

My single point here is, if Kawhi Leonard and LeBron James - as a package deal - are deciding which team to join NEXT SEASON that has the best chance to win a ring, which team would they choose - the Sixers or the Lakers?

One team was in the lottery - ON MERIT. The other team had the 5th best record in the NBA and won a round of the playoffs - with an All-NBA player, the Rookie of the Year, and a 1st Team All-Defensive Team wing.

I cannot believe that I am having this argument.

That sounds nice on Realgm, but that's not how real life works. You can't sit here and say for certain that the 76ers with LeBron and kawhi are better than the Lakers with LeBron and kawhi. Again you had all that and won ONE round of playoffs. Like I said before the way some of you guys are talking you would think they were 24 minutes away from the finals or something.

Lakers fans are something else...I can't believe you're actually trying to argue with the point being made here. The Sixers are better than the Lakers (by a long-shot) and they have better young talent (by a long-shot). Pretty simple.

[Traderwest]

Celtics will pack with 2019 Grizz First, Kings First, Clippers First Picks, Brown and Tatum

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Negotiating and closing is Rob Pelinka's specialty.

I think he will be able to pry KL away from the Spurs without giving up the farm.

[hookshot199]

Celtics seemed to have the best package in young players and picks with Brown, Rozier, salary dump and pick(s) for Leonard. However, I'm hearing Ainge may go for a straight swap of Kyrie Irving (player option for 2019-20) for Leonard. The latter seems like a better move for the Celtics.

Hearing from where? The voices in your head. Take your medicine.

Agreed, Darth. It ain't happening - that is, Kyrie straight up for Kawhi. I do believe that under normal circumstances Ainge and Brett Brown (Brett Brown even more than Ainge because he was one of Kawhi's coaches at San Antonio) could convince him to play for our teams. But Kawhi - through his handlers - can't seem to find his way to the little boy's room. I wouldn't trust anything he says.

For the Celtics to make the trade with your current payroll, you have to give up Jaylen Brown. I wouldn't! We would have to give up Robert Covington.

If I were the Lakers, I would offer Ingram, Kuzma, Deng and a future protected pick, perhaps Hart instead, for Kawhi and Patty Mills. Or (and I have no idea how to make the numbers work exactly) switch Pau Gasol for Mills. That minimizes Deng's poison pill and gives the Spurs assets.

None of us know if Kawhi can play. At least this way he'll go to the team where he or his handlers (we don't even know) have declared fealty.

[CeltsfaninDC]

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A Lakers beat writer. IMO Lakers newest speculated offer is WAY overpay for a guy they can easily grab next summer for free and whom we have zero idea if hes 100% or ever will be.

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WTF do the Lakers HAVE that would set anyone up for a Decade? Are they giving SAS their regional TV deal?

If LAL had the resources to set up SAS then why wouldn’t they just use those resources themselves? They have a bunch of minor pieces that no one really wants and is certainly not worthy of a top 5 player

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Kawhi will end up this night as a Laker.

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