Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[otwok]

Spurs do not have any leverage at all, they are at a complete disadvantage.

I think LAL will step their offer up from BI + future 1sts though, maybe packaging JHart and taking back Mills or something.

Yea I don't see that. Spurs have said that they have no problem waiting it out and I believe them. If Kawhi sits out he'll lose another year of his prime. If the Spurs wanted, they would just offer the SuperMax and call it a day and keep Kawhi.

Why do you think Magic said that he's okay waiting till next year? Because he knows that the Spurs have no problem letting Kawhi walk for nothing. Sometimes it's better to take nothing than to take trash.

[Saul Goodman]

Spurs gotta swallow their pride here. Ingram/kuz /deng/1st for Kawhi. Spurs get a real rebuild package while having a competitive roster






Murray
Walker
Ingram
Kuzma


Is a legit core

[DROB27]

Spurs gotta swallow their pride here. Ingram/kuz /deng/1st for Kawhi. Spurs get a real rebuild package while having a competitive roster






Murray
Walker
Ingram
Kuzma


Is a legit core

Nobody is taking Deng

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Deng might be even be offered. He can be stretched and Im pretty sure the LAL can still fit KL + LBJ + PG.

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Which makes sense because all Ive read is INgram + future 1sts

[phraoh]

I think Lakers know they have to give up some young players and picks to get this done and get it done now. They have learned from their mistake last year, "Why trade for Paul George when we can just sign him next year for free (except money) next year" There are never any guarantees that the player won't like where they went in the trade and reup with them, which I think is likely to happen. Spurs will NOT be taking Deng back unless Lakers take a bad contract that is just as long back.

[Obi-One]

[Gus McCrae]

Yes (jack Nicholson gif)

[nbafan38]

Lakers willing to offer Ingram and future first round picks

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23935910/san-antonio-spurs-engaged-los-angeles-lakers-boston-celtics-kawhi-leonard-trade-talks

Lakers so desperate to throw away their future to put together a team that would still be an underdog against Golden State. I'm not even saying this is the wrong approach but it is amusing to watch.

[woosah]

I can imagine the calls of the FO personnel is going something like this thread. Circles.

You can have Kuzma, Deng, Ball, FRP.
No, that's not good enough.
It's a legit package, and similar to others for a star who wants to leave!
We aren't other teams, and don't like some of them.
You have no leverage take it or leave it then.
Ok. Leave it. *dial tone*
--call back---
You gotta take it. It's a good deal!
No, we don't. I heard Lebron is waiting. It's not enough...
You beep beep beep, mind your biz... *dial tone*
---call back--
You gotta take it though. Ok all jokes aside. He doesn't want to be there!
He's under contract. I empathize though.
What if i add Hart?
What if I hang up again and turn off my ringer?
(long silence)...



round and round and round and round.

[getitdone323]

Lakers willing to offer Ingram and future first round picks

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23935910/san-antonio-spurs-engaged-los-angeles-lakers-boston-celtics-kawhi-leonard-trade-talks

Lakers so desperate to throw away their future to put together a team that would still be an underdog against Golden State

If this is the deal Spurs agree on(slim chance), they have Lonzo/Kuzma/Hart/KL + can still sign LBJ and PG. Due the limited money teams have, the lakers should get decent ring chaser to join for 1 year. People have forgotten how good KL is (assuming hes healthy) Hes at worse a top 5 player. Not sure how they are the underdog, people are underestimating the wear and tear a finals run takes on players let alone a potentially 5 year run

[xfactor]

Yes (jack Nicholson gif)

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Lakers willing to offer Ingram and future first round picks

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23935910/san-antonio-spurs-engaged-los-angeles-lakers-boston-celtics-kawhi-leonard-trade-talks

Lakers so desperate to throw away their future to put together a team that would still be an underdog against Golden State. I'm not even saying this is the wrong approach but it is amusing to watch.

Yeah, the Nets are a total model for success in that regard.

[sfernald]

To me if you’re gonna gamble do it for a player like Kawhi..

The nba is about getting top of the league players you NEED to win titles and Kawhi is one of those few players..

Chances are slim to none any assets you give up whether you’re the Lakers Celtics or a Sixers will ever be a top of the league player.

I’d take my chances that once Kawhi gets to my team and we’re highly successful that there’s a good chance he’d resign

Yea especially a team like Boston with how well run of an organization they are and a big market would have an excellent chance of resigning Kawhi, I agree it's worth the gamble if you are the celtics. They have been building and building and done a great job but at some point they need to land a true top 5 player to get over the top in todays nba.

I’m still unclear how Celtics trade for Kawhi? I can see the Philly trade because they can include Cov to match but Celtics are over the cap and the only players they can add to match salary in a trade are Hortford, Kyrie or Hayward. I just really don’t see Celtics letting go of any of those players for a Kawhi rental. As bad as Danny is, I don’t really see him trading one of those period. Otherwise the salaries just don’t add up and they would have to include like every other player on the roster just to make it work...

[Balllin]

The Spurs should not only look to get Ingram+Luzma+1st Round picks, but also to unload one of Gasol or Aldridge as they'd enter a full rebuild. Something like:

Ingram
Kuzma
Wagner
Deng
2019+2020 1st round picks

for

Leonard
Aldridge or Gasol

[Alonzo_Morning]

I can imagine the calls of the FO personnel is going something like this thread. Circles.

You can have Kuzma, Deng, Ball, FRP.
No, that's not good enough.
It's a legit package, and similar to others for a star who wants to leave!
We aren't other teams, and don't like some of them.
You have no leverage take it or leave it then.
Ok. Leave it. *dial tone*
--call back---
You gotta take it. It's a good deal!
No, we don't. I heard Lebron is waiting. It's not enough...
You beep beep beep, mind your biz... *dial tone*
---call back--
You gotta take it though. Ok all jokes aside. He doesn't want to be there!
He's under contract. I empathize though.
What if i add Hart?
What if I hang up again and turn off my ringer?
(long silence)...



round and round and round and round.

What I wouldn't give to hear an actual phone transcript verbatim with the back and forth between two trading teams. Would be so interesting

[Jedi32]

My single point here is, if Kawhi Leonard and LeBron James - as a package deal - are deciding which team to join NEXT SEASON that has the best chance to win a ring, which team would they choose - the Sixers or the Lakers?

One team was in the lottery - ON MERIT. The other team had the 5th best record in the NBA and won a round of the playoffs - with an All-NBA player, the Rookie of the Year, and a 1st Team All-Defensive Team wing.

I cannot believe that I am having this argument.

That sounds nice on Realgm, but that's not how real life works. You can't sit here and say for certain that the 76ers with LeBron and kawhi are better than the Lakers with LeBron and kawhi. Again you had all that and won ONE round of playoffs. Like I said before the way some of you guys are talking you would think they were 24 minutes away from the finals or something.

Lakers fans are something else...I can't believe you're actually trying to argue with the point being made here. The Sixers are better than the Lakers (by a long-shot) and they have better young talent (by a long-shot). Pretty simple.

Reading comprehension can be your friend. I wasn't arguing who the better team is now. I said he can't for certain say the 6ers with LeBron and kawhi will be better than the Lakers with LeBron and kawhi. There's no way to know that until actual games are played. I know the thing to do is to chime in with the same old BS of "laker fans are this or that" ,but some just try to hard. Smh

[CeltsfaninDC]

Celtics will pack with 2019 Grizz First, Kings First, Clippers First Picks, Brown and Tatum

No, no they won’t. Neither Brwn nor Tatum will be involved in this without a long term deal

[nbafan38]

Lakers willing to offer Ingram and future first round picks

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23935910/san-antonio-spurs-engaged-los-angeles-lakers-boston-celtics-kawhi-leonard-trade-talks

Lakers so desperate to throw away their future to put together a team that would still be an underdog against Golden State

If this is the deal Spurs agree on(slim chance), they have Lonzo/Kuzma/Hart/KL + can still sign LBJ and PG. Due the limited money teams have, the lakers should get decent ring chaser to join for 1 year. People have forgotten how good KL is (assuming hes healthy) Hes at worse a top 5 player. Not sure how they are the underdog, people are underestimating the wear and tear a finals run takes on players let alone a potentially 5 year run

Yea well I'm assuming SA won't settle for less than Ingram/Kuzma and first round pick. The lakers would be very very good but I would still take the warriors core over their core especially given the warriors core has played together so long and the lakers would be adjusting to each other the first year.

[The Penguin]

Pop - "Hey Danny, is it alright if I use you guys to make sure we get everything out of the Lakers?"

Ainge - "Absolutely, we'll tell everyone we are interested!"

-IMO the extent of the Celtics involvement

I think the Celtics are keeping the powder dry for a run at Davis.