Wiretap: Bulls Hope To Re-Sign Zach LaVine At $14M-$16M

[coldfish]

At the end of the day, I wouldn't be happy with any contract he would accept. Best outcome is a sign and trade for a crap contract plus draft picks.

[MrSparkle]

Just a warning but the Kings have had a bit of fun messing with teams. They sent out a little revenge to the Warriors and jacked up the price on Iggy.

I think the kings have had quite a bit of fun building one of the worst franchises in pro sports over the last decade. Signing Zach for 20 million sounds right up their alley.

It would be incredible if a LaVine/Bagley team became competent.

[samwana]

I think Sacramento's logic is just finding any super talented player who can present the idea of a playoff push. They struggle attracting players anyway, so it makes some sense to overpay a restricted free agent.

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If they overpay Zach, that frees us up to “overpay” Exum. Given all the studs on their roster looking for paydays, the Jazz may not be able to match a 10-12 mil per year offer for Exum... especially not if we front load the contract. And I’d take Exum at 12 mil per year over Zach at 17+. Shoot, I’d take Exum at 12 over Zach at 12.

I wouldn't give Exum anything big. Way too deep an injury history. If LaVine walks, I'm starting Valentine and riding into the season.

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Perfect scenario.

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[Bulls_Fan]

Paxson has always been awful in re-signing Bulls players. I expect nothing to change w/ LaVine.

[Truebiscuit]

Read on Twitter

[Trm3]

This is all that matters regarding LaVine's contract...

Who is LaVine banana boating with this summer?

Seeing his IG everyday looks to be no one, but he is always working out..

[BoogieTime]

14 is a fair value for Lavine. I would probably be fine with slight overpay 15. But, 16 makes me nervous.

Honestly, +/- $4m is just posturing for good or bad relations. $2m is a compromise difference. You can't really do much with that little in cap. You're more-so looking at groups of 5s (10m/15/20/25-max) for his yearly salary.

It's gonna come down between:

A 1+1 max salary. (SAC at the top of the list IMO)

B $60-80m for 4y (CHI, ATL, SAC)

C His stock falls totally flat and he and agent agree to a $35m/3 offer sheet.

D Some idiot team offering him a full max (looking at you SAC).

I think A or B happen and Chicago matches unless it's beyond $70m/4. I don't want A to happen. Kills our 2019 cap options, puts it in Zach's head that he needs to get his numbers up again to play the next round of free agency, doubt we resign him afterwards... it'd be a slightly modified version of the Niko debacle.

Option C sounds incredible, but unlikely.

Buddy Hield is better than anyone on the Bulls going forward, other than ‘maybe’ Lauri/Carter, and he’s on the bench.

LaVine is a bad basketball player, and won’t get more than 12-13 from anyone

He’s going to be a terrible contract on the Bulls for years to come

[da pmp]

The Kings being the bad organization they are, feel they need more depth beyond Fox and Hield. Kings should Make it happen and offer april lavigne 18M /yr.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

I think Lavine can be a nice 2nd option, or ideally 3rd option (championship team). The talk of JR Smith or Jamal Crawford is getting ridiculous.

[sco]

I have high hopes for Zach, but 4/$80M feels like it would have a MAX slot opportunity cost down the road.

I know that $18 or $20M feels high for his demonstrated performance. Of equal concern to me is his injury risk. His playing style and tendonitis & other misc smaller injuries from last year give me cause for concern.

[Truebiscuit]

14 is a fair value for Lavine. I would probably be fine with slight overpay 15. But, 16 makes me nervous.

Honestly, +/- $4m is just posturing for good or bad relations. $2m is a compromise difference. You can't really do much with that little in cap. You're more-so looking at groups of 5s (10m/15/20/25-max) for his yearly salary.

It's gonna come down between:

A 1+1 max salary. (SAC at the top of the list IMO)

B $60-80m for 4y (CHI, ATL, SAC)

C His stock falls totally flat and he and agent agree to a $35m/3 offer sheet.

D Some idiot team offering him a full max (looking at you SAC).

I think A or B happen and Chicago matches unless it's beyond $70m/4. I don't want A to happen. Kills our 2019 cap options, puts it in Zach's head that he needs to get his numbers up again to play the next round of free agency, doubt we resign him afterwards... it'd be a slightly modified version of the Niko debacle.

Option C sounds incredible, but unlikely.

Buddy Hield is better than anyone on the Bulls going forward, other than ‘maybe’ Lauri/Carter, and he’s on the bench.

LaVine is a bad basketball player, and won’t get more than 12-13 from anyone

He’s going to be a terrible contract on the Bulls for years to come

Hield has a career PER of 14; Lavine's is 13.5. Hield is a better defender, though, and older.

[Red Larrivee]

Buddy Hield is better than anyone on the Bulls going forward, other than ‘maybe’ Lauri/Carter, and he’s on the bench.

LaVine is a bad basketball player, and won’t get more than 12-13 from anyone

He’s going to be a terrible contract on the Bulls for years to come

Maybe? Hield isn't a bad player but he's not a better talent or player than Markkanen, nor does he have his upside.

Hield and LaVine are pretty close caliber wise. LaVine has a lot more talent, but he's going to cost more over the next two seasons at least.

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[Threekola]

14 is a fair value for Lavine. I would probably be fine with slight overpay 15. But, 16 makes me nervous.

Honestly, +/- $4m is just posturing for good or bad relations. $2m is a compromise difference. You can't really do much with that little in cap. You're more-so looking at groups of 5s (10m/15/20/25-max) for his yearly salary.

It's gonna come down between:

A 1+1 max salary. (SAC at the top of the list IMO)

B $60-80m for 4y (CHI, ATL, SAC)

C His stock falls totally flat and he and agent agree to a $35m/3 offer sheet.

D Some idiot team offering him a full max (looking at you SAC).

I think A or B happen and Chicago matches unless it's beyond $70m/4. I don't want A to happen. Kills our 2019 cap options, puts it in Zach's head that he needs to get his numbers up again to play the next round of free agency, doubt we resign him afterwards... it'd be a slightly modified version of the Niko debacle.

Option C sounds incredible, but unlikely.

Buddy Hield is better than anyone on the Bulls going forward, other than ‘maybe’ Lauri/Carter, and he’s on the bench.

LaVine is a bad basketball player, and won’t get more than 12-13 from anyone

He’s going to be a terrible contract on the Bulls for years to come

JaKarr Sampson! Welcome to the board!

[Betta Bulleavit]

14 is a fair value for Lavine. I would probably be fine with slight overpay 15. But, 16 makes me nervous.

Honestly, +/- $4m is just posturing for good or bad relations. $2m is a compromise difference. You can't really do much with that little in cap. You're more-so looking at groups of 5s (10m/15/20/25-max) for his yearly salary.

It's gonna come down between:

A 1+1 max salary. (SAC at the top of the list IMO)

B $60-80m for 4y (CHI, ATL, SAC)

C His stock falls totally flat and he and agent agree to a $35m/3 offer sheet.

D Some idiot team offering him a full max (looking at you SAC).

I think A or B happen and Chicago matches unless it's beyond $70m/4. I don't want A to happen. Kills our 2019 cap options, puts it in Zach's head that he needs to get his numbers up again to play the next round of free agency, doubt we resign him afterwards... it'd be a slightly modified version of the Niko debacle.

Option C sounds incredible, but unlikely.

Buddy Hield is better than anyone on the Bulls going forward, other than ‘maybe’ Lauri/Carter, and he’s on the bench.

LaVine is a bad basketball player, and won’t get more than 12-13 from anyone

He’s going to be a terrible contract on the Bulls for years to come

That's a whole lot to claim with not a whole lot to base it on. This is a big year for Buddy no doubt. But let us not get carried away.

[Red Larrivee]

I think LaVine has reached the point of being underrated. This is not in the sense of what he did last season (which wasn't good), but what he's capable of going forward. I have a limit of what I'd be cool with on money, but the way most talk about him it's like he's not capable of improving at anything.

He's not lacking in tools or work ethic to do the things that fans want. It's more of a willingness to understand the game better and incorporate more efficiency.

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[BoogieTime]

Honestly, +/- $4m is just posturing for good or bad relations. $2m is a compromise difference. You can't really do much with that little in cap. You're more-so looking at groups of 5s (10m/15/20/25-max) for his yearly salary.

It's gonna come down between:

A 1+1 max salary. (SAC at the top of the list IMO)

B $60-80m for 4y (CHI, ATL, SAC)

C His stock falls totally flat and he and agent agree to a $35m/3 offer sheet.

D Some idiot team offering him a full max (looking at you SAC).

I think A or B happen and Chicago matches unless it's beyond $70m/4. I don't want A to happen. Kills our 2019 cap options, puts it in Zach's head that he needs to get his numbers up again to play the next round of free agency, doubt we resign him afterwards... it'd be a slightly modified version of the Niko debacle.

Option C sounds incredible, but unlikely.

Buddy Hield is better than anyone on the Bulls going forward, other than ‘maybe’ Lauri/Carter, and he’s on the bench.

LaVine is a bad basketball player, and won’t get more than 12-13 from anyone

He’s going to be a terrible contract on the Bulls for years to come

Hield has a career PER of 14; Lavine's is 13.5. Hield is a better defender, though, and older.

We can only go by post injury LaVine at this point

He’s not good, post injury. Whether that changes, i wouldn’t put salary on it

[Betta Bulleavit]

I think LaVine has reached the point of being underrated. This is not in the sense of what he did last season (which wasn't good), but what he's capable of going forward. I have a limit of what I'd be cool with on money, but the way most talk about him it's like he's not capable of improving at anything.

He's not lacking in tools or work ethic to do the things that fans want. It's more of a willingness to understand the game better and incorporate more efficiency.

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I think the biggest thing with Lavine (in what we saw of him last year) was that there was no noticeable improvement in areas of his game that we know he needs to improve AND the fact that his shot was rusty.

Having said that, I have a good deal of faith that he will relocate his shot. And I believe that a full (healthy) off season should do him a lot of good in terms of improving on some of the less tangible aspects of his game.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Buddy Hield is better than anyone on the Bulls going forward, other than ‘maybe’ Lauri/Carter, and he’s on the bench.

LaVine is a bad basketball player, and won’t get more than 12-13 from anyone

He’s going to be a terrible contract on the Bulls for years to come

Hield has a career PER of 14; Lavine's is 13.5. Hield is a better defender, though, and older.

We can only go by post injury LaVine at this point

He’s not good, post injury. Whether that changes, i wouldn’t put salary on it

I have to say, that is a GREAT observation. No...really. I mean that.

Good luck with Buddy though. I've liked him since college. Pulling for him big time.

[BR0D1E86]

Buddy Hield is better than anyone on the Bulls going forward, other than ‘maybe’ Lauri/Carter, and he’s on the bench.

You can remove the “maybe” from that sentence. Then add another sentence and say “maybe” Lavine, Dunn, and Valentine, because he’s yet to establish that he’s significantly better than any of them. Lopez is also better than him.

[Red Larrivee]

I think LaVine has reached the point of being underrated. This is not in the sense of what he did last season (which wasn't good), but what he's capable of going forward. I have a limit of what I'd be cool with on money, but the way most talk about him it's like he's not capable of improving at anything.

He's not lacking in tools or work ethic to do the things that fans want. It's more of a willingness to understand the game better and incorporate more efficiency.

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I think the biggest thing with Lavine (in what we saw of him last year) was that there was no noticeable improvement in areas of his game that we know he needs to improve AND the fact that his shot was rusty.

Having said that, I have a good deal of faith that he will relocate his shot. And I believe that a full (healthy) off season should do him a lot of good in terms of improving on some of the less tangible aspects of his game.

That makes sense though because LaVine was training to return from an ACL injury. It's kind of difficult to do that while also improving certain parts of your game. You're more focused on having the confidence to plant, cut, and take contact than improve your post game or something.

This season will say alot about LaVine's ability to improve or not.

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