Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[Homerclease]

Of course they could trade Gordon Hayward, but would you take him for $98 mil after the injury
he had - and he just had to have additional surgery?

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/gordon-hayward-6891/

Gordon Hayward is expected to be ready for training camp. Can you say the same about Kawhi at this moment?[/quote]


Nope. But I don't want my team, the Sixers, to make an offer for Kawhi without a complete and
independent medical sign off and foolproof contractual commitment. Secondly, Hayward is not a
top-five player, never has been, so we're comparing apples and oranges if Kawhi is healthy again.

The Sixers spent a season and a half with Joel Embiid on restricted minutes once he came back
and bult some minimal protections into his contract.

Until Hayward returns and shows he hasn't lost anything in his game, no one should take on his
contract. And I repeat: Unlike Kawhi, you're not taking a risk for a top-five player.

So why would the Celtics trade Hayward for Kawhi?

[jfs1000d]

The Celtics overachieving last season takes them out of the KL situation - they dont need him and they wont give up what he costs to acquire him, even if it is to just spite the Lakers.

The only people that are talking are LAL and SAS, expect a deal done by tomorrow - whatever that may actually be.

Celtics overachieve?


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Noone expected the Kyrie & Hawyward-less Celtics to almost make it to the Finals.

Their youth stepped it up, they did fantastic, and now there is no urgency on the C's side to give up such promising talent inexachange for a 1 year rental of a possibly damaged Kawhi.

Its a compliment to the C's.

Overachieved is different than exceed expectations.

No one foresaw brown and Tatum being as good as they are, and Rozier blossoming.

They were every bit as talented as reaching the ecf suggests. They didn’t play above their talent.


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[bb22]

It’s interesting....the Lakers need to be careful about this. Does LeBron PG and Kwahi beat GSW? I’m not sure. Definitely puts them above Houston. Might only be a 2 year window. LeBron is going into his 16th season. Also remember that someone is going to have to be the Bosh on this team...If it’s Kwahi then you’ve given up most of your young talent for a 3rd option. If it’s George? Then you’ve still given up most of your young depth for a 2nd option...

Possibly.
But are Ingram, Kuzma, picks ever going to be half as good as Kawhi? Definitely not. Are the lakers ever going to be in an easier position to have one of the best players of all time, and 2 other hall of fame players on the same team? I think they know they won’t, that’s why they are offering up everything they have for the shot at putting togeher a massive big 3. Judging by Magic’s statement, Im guessing they already know they will get what they want (this offseason or next).

Anytime someone is two years removed from being a #2 its kind of hard to gauge that player. Obviously the most likely answer is that Ingram isn't going to be as good as Leonard but you don't know. Same thing us Celtics fans are going through with Jaylen and the possibility of trading him to the Spurs. Tough to give up that potential.

But we are talking about a finals mvp (and not the iguodala type) and a guy with incredible efficiency on both ends. Only question is whether he falls apart after signing the max

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

If Boston trades for Kawhi, and he bails - Celtics are still left with:

Irving/Rozier/Larkin/Gibson
Hayward/Bird
Tatum/Ojeleye/Nader
Morris/Theis
Horford/Williams/Yabusele

They probably ought to be diligent with the picks they trade, though. I know Ainge hates losing assets for nothing.

With Kawhi,

Celtics go into it with:

Irving/Rozier/Larkin/Gibson
Hayward/Ojeleye/Bird
Tatum/Morris/Nader
Leonard/Theis
Horford/Williams/Yabusele

[hookshot199]

Gordon Hayward is expected to be ready for training camp. Can you say the same about Kawhi at this moment?[/quote]


Nope. But I don't want my team, the Sixers, to make an offer for Kawhi without a complete and
independent medical sign off and foolproof contractual commitment. Secondly, Hayward is not a
top-five player, never has been, so we're comparing apples and oranges if Kawhi is healthy again.

The Sixers spent a season and a half with Joel Embiid on restricted minutes once he came back
and bult some minimal protections into his contract.

Until Hayward returns and shows he hasn't lost anything in his game, no one should take on his
contract. And I repeat: Unlike Kawhi, you're not taking a risk for a top-five player.

So why would the Celtics trade Hayward for Kawhi?

Because somebody in the body of the full thread named Raptorsingh mentioned possibly trading
Hayward. I responded to him/her. You responded to me.

[Rafael122]

I wonder how Lebron's camp feels about all of this. When Lebron has been a free agent, he's controlled free agency. No moves would get done until he signed. The fact that free agency is being dictated by where Kawhi wants to go is an interesting turn of events.

[FNQ]

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Seems like its looking more and more likely that the Spurs are leaking the "urgency" stuff. And cavs fans can admit, Vardon is a pretty reliable source.

Or LeBron wants Kawhi there and this attempts to erase the initial leak. Vardon can be a reliable source all he wants, but LeBron is putting this out there.. why exactly?

It shouldnt matter to the public whether or not he needs Kawhi to be a Laker or not a couple days before free agency, it should only matter to the Lakers. So why the quick response? It only helps the Lakers in their bid to get Kawhi..

To me that tweet is enough for me to think Lakers are heavy favorites, if not locks for LeBron

[jason bourne]

Lakers should sign Lebron then trade him to the Spurs for Leonard.

Ha ha. It sounds like it's the Lakers who are desperate for superstars. The Spurs are looking to rebuild. They already have a replacement for Parker and Ginobili with Dejounte Murray and Lonnie Walker IV. If Spurs are willing to trade Kawhi for Kyrie irving + Kings 2019 pick, then I can see how Ainge would then try to work out a 3-team trade in order to rape the Lakers such as Ingram + Kuzma + 1st rounder and more for Kawhi.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Gordon Hayward is expected to be ready for training camp. Can you say the same about Kawhi at this moment?[/quote]


Nope. But I don't want my team, the Sixers, to make an offer for Kawhi without a complete and
independent medical sign off and foolproof contractual commitment. Secondly, Hayward is not a
top-five player, never has been, so we're comparing apples and oranges if Kawhi is healthy again.

The Sixers spent a season and a half with Joel Embiid on restricted minutes once he came back
and bult some minimal protections into his contract.

Until Hayward returns and shows he hasn't lost anything in his game, no one should take on his
contract. And I repeat: Unlike Kawhi, you're not taking a risk for a top-five player.

So why would the Celtics trade Hayward for Kawhi?

Because somebody in the body of the full thread named Raptorsingh mentioned possibly trading
Hayward. I responded to him/her. You responded to me.

Sup

[inquisitive]

who knows maybe kawhi was going to leave the spurs as a free agent even without this injury issue. maybe he wanted to leave the spurs all along. this injury issue just gave him a quicker exit.

[bigbreakfast]

Every time I come on RealGM Lakers fans somehow manage to overrate Ingram even more than the last time.

Amazing.

Exactly. The guy had a 13.8 PER last season and his usage % (basically how many offense possessions he’s used in) is the same as Ben Simmons... in other words, he’s doesn’t need shoot it much. He’s a nice young player (only 20) whose selling point right now is his potential, but people on this board speak of him like he’s the next Kawhi. He’s not.

Lakers fans spent the last year fantasizing about getting LBJ while finishing with 35 wins with Ball/Ingram/Kuzma... now when the time comes to actually make a move to get LBJ... wait a minute what about how good Ingram is though? lololol FOH

[hookshot199]

So why would the Celtics trade Hayward for Kawhi?

Because somebody in the body of the full thread named Raptorsingh mentioned possibly trading
Hayward. I responded to him/her. You responded to me.

Sup

I'm not familiar with the expression "sup". But if you're asking me "What's up?" I was just clarifying
that I was resounding to your question about Gordon Hayward.


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Post#582 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » 52 minutes ago

hookshot199 wrote:
sfernald wrote:
CeltsfaninDC wrote:

You’re completely wrong. I won’t post it all here, but there are numerous breakdowns on that Cs board that show how they can easily do this without any of those players


I see Brown, Rozier, Morris, Yabu and Semi would work, but SaS certainly don’t have five roster spots open. Plus this would empty the bench almost completely. Maybe it would work with a third team involved but I wouldn’t say it’s easy at all..



I'm not sure what's on the C's board, but they've got to send $15.1 mil in salary back to the Spurs. There's no way to do that without sending back Brown and Morris unless they're counting Marcus Smart, and I don't think they can move him without his consent because I believe he's a free agent.


What about Gordon Hayward?

[lars_rosenberg]

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Seems like its looking more and more likely that the Spurs are leaking the "urgency" stuff. And cavs fans can admit, Vardon is a pretty reliable source.

Or LeBron wants Kawhi there and this attempts to erase the initial leak. Vardon can be a reliable source all he wants, but LeBron is putting this out there.. why exactly?

It shouldnt matter to the public whether or not he needs Kawhi to be a Laker or not a couple days before free agency, it should only matter to the Lakers. So why the quick response? It only helps the Lakers in their bid to get Kawhi..

To me that tweet is enough for me to think Lakers are heavy favorites, if not locks for LeBron

It's pretty obvious that LeBron is not going to sign for the Lakers if they don't sign at least another superstar and Paul George doesn't qualify.
So I believe it's probably true that LeBron hasn't committed yet to sign for the Lakers if they get Leonard, but if they don't get Leonard they have exactly 0% chance go sign LeBron.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Because somebody in the body of the full thread named Raptorsingh mentioned possibly trading
Hayward. I responded to him/her. You responded to me.

Sup

I'm not familiar with the expression "sup". But if you're asking me "What's up?" I was just clarifying
that I was resounding to your question about Gordon Hayward.


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Post#582 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » 52 minutes ago

hookshot199 wrote:
sfernald wrote:
CeltsfaninDC wrote:

You’re completely wrong. I won’t post it all here, but there are numerous breakdowns on that Cs board that show how they can easily do this without any of those players


I see Brown, Rozier, Morris, Yabu and Semi would work, but SaS certainly don’t have five roster spots open. Plus this would empty the bench almost completely. Maybe it would work with a third team involved but I wouldn’t say it’s easy at all..



I'm not sure what's on the C's board, but they've got to send $15.1 mil in salary back to the Spurs. There's no way to do that without sending back Brown and Morris unless they're counting Marcus Smart, and I don't think they can move him without his consent because I believe he's a free agent.


What about Gordon Hayward?

Lol it's cool bruh.

[hookshot199]

Sup

Lol it's cool bruh.

Ditto.

[Traderwest]

Celtics have 5 times better talents than Lakers, and 76ers have 3 times better talents than Lakers.

all Lakers suck, they are huge overrated!

[Jordan-esque]

More lowball offers. Per SI, 76ers offering up Covington and Saric.

[RaptorsLife]

Lol

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[jason bourne]

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Seems like its looking more and more likely that the Spurs are leaking the "urgency" stuff. And cavs fans can admit, Vardon is a pretty reliable source.

Or LeBron wants Kawhi there and this attempts to erase the initial leak. Vardon can be a reliable source all he wants, but LeBron is putting this out there.. why exactly?

It shouldnt matter to the public whether or not he needs Kawhi to be a Laker or not a couple days before free agency, it should only matter to the Lakers. So why the quick response? It only helps the Lakers in their bid to get Kawhi..

To me that tweet is enough for me to think Lakers are heavy favorites, if not locks for LeBron

It's pretty obvious that LeBron is not going to sign for the Lakers if they don't sign at least another superstar and Paul George doesn't qualify.
So I believe it's probably true that LeBron hasn't committed yet to sign for the Lakers if they get Leonard, but if they don't get Leonard they have exactly 0% chance go sign LeBron.

If Lakers do get Kawhi, then I'd like to know if LeBron will want to see his medical papers before he agrees to anything.

[Jordan-esque]

Lol

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Chances he’s not kidding? Lol