Trade and free agency speculation

[Stix]

People need to realize that the whole idea of Ball/Deng is that Ball is the prize for taking on Deng, hence no sending out useful players. If we sent out any play, it would be because instead of dealing with the Lakers straight up we would be part of the 3-way that lands Kawhi in LA, and it would most likely be us sending Chandlers expiring to San Antonio for him to spend his last season with Aldridge. Spurs get Ingram/Kuzma/Chandler/Lakers draft picks for Kawhi.

Deng is useless therefore you'd essentially be paying over 23mil/yr for a point guard that can't shoot and is a PR nightmare. No thanks.

If that's really what you want, just sign Kendall Marshall and save 22 mil/yr

[Kerrsed]

People need to realize that the whole idea of Ball/Deng is that Ball is the prize for taking on Deng, hence no sending out useful players. If we sent out any play, it would be because instead of dealing with the Lakers straight up we would be part of the 3-way that lands Kawhi in LA, and it would most likely be us sending Chandlers expiring to San Antonio for him to spend his last season with Aldridge. Spurs get Ingram/Kuzma/Chandler/Lakers draft picks for Kawhi.

Deng is useless therefore you'd essentially be paying over 23mil/yr for a point guard that can't shoot and is a PR nightmare. No thanks.

If that's really what you want, just sign Kendall Marshall and save 22 mil/yr

Your paying $24M for the highly touted #2 pick from last draft that almost averaged a triple double and who's FATHER is a PR nightmare. If we were told we could have the #2 pick in the draft (Who in my mind we would have used to draft ball) just for simply taking on Deng, i think we would have done it without any question. And i think we would take this deal with no question too.

6"6, 10/7/7/2 with great defense. You let the PointGuard Whisperer Kokosov work on getting his shot improved. You also hope that Lavar is too busy with LeMelo and trying to run his JBA League to muck things up here in Phoenix.

[thamadkant]

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Which means Suns are getting Love

[BobbieL]

People need to realize that the whole idea of Ball/Deng is that Ball is the prize for taking on Deng, hence no sending out useful players. If we sent out any play, it would be because instead of dealing with the Lakers straight up we would be part of the 3-way that lands Kawhi in LA, and it would most likely be us sending Chandlers expiring to San Antonio for him to spend his last season with Aldridge. Spurs get Ingram/Kuzma/Chandler/Lakers draft picks for Kawhi.

Deng is useless therefore you'd essentially be paying over 23mil/yr for a point guard that can't shoot and is a PR nightmare. No thanks.

If that's really what you want, just sign Kendall Marshall and save 22 mil/yr

Your paying $24M for the highly touted #2 pick from last draft that almost averaged a triple double and who's FATHER is a PR nightmare. If we were told we could have the #2 pick in the draft (Who in my mind we would have used to draft ball) just for simply taking on Deng, i think we would have done it without any question. And i think we would take this deal with no question too.

6"6, 10/7/7/2 with great defense. You let the PointGuard Whisperer Kokosov work on getting his shot improved. You also hope that Lavar is too busy with LeMelo and trying to run his JBA League to muck things up here in Phoenix.

My problem - more wasted cap space not just for one year but two

Second, the Suns already have enough young guys that another one will really jack with the cap when they all come due. . I get that Ball has skills but Deng is not worth it. If Deng were one year, no problem. Not two. Deng has 34m left

[Christine-In-AZ]

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Somehow I'm not convinced. Organic growth, McD. The Love ship has sailed.

Hope you're right, but...

The Love Boat promises something for everyone

Love won't hurt anymore
Its an open smile on a friendly shore
Yes love...
Its love...

[WeekapaugGroove]

GMs shouldn't be graded on a curve. Just because blanks was terrible doesn't mean mcd gets a pass.

I can't believe no one brought up his hiring of Watson. That's a major red mark on his gm ledger. He's quite literally one of the worst coaches I've seen in over 30 years of being an NBA fan.

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Watson was just a babysitter. Nobody wanted to coach this team.

Sure the super big names wouldn't have been interested but damn near every assistant would have been. Every nba head coaching job is desirable because there are only 30 spots available.

I think the suns legit thought he was a good up and coming coach with the right temperament for a young team. I can almost give them a pass for the initial hire but not moving on last summer was a mistake... Highlighted by the fact they fired him 3 games into the season.

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[Kerrsed]

Deng is useless therefore you'd essentially be paying over 23mil/yr for a point guard that can't shoot and is a PR nightmare. No thanks.

If that's really what you want, just sign Kendall Marshall and save 22 mil/yr

Your paying $24M for the highly touted #2 pick from last draft that almost averaged a triple double and who's FATHER is a PR nightmare. If we were told we could have the #2 pick in the draft (Who in my mind we would have used to draft ball) just for simply taking on Deng, i think we would have done it without any question. And i think we would take this deal with no question too.

6"6, 10/7/7/2 with great defense. You let the PointGuard Whisperer Kokosov work on getting his shot improved. You also hope that Lavar is too busy with LeMelo and trying to run his JBA League to muck things up here in Phoenix.

My problem - more wasted cap space not just for one year but two

Second, the Suns already have enough young guys that another one will really jack with the cap when they all come due. . I get that Ball has skills but Deng is not worth it. If Deng were one year, no problem. Not two. Deng has 34m left

And if Deng were on a one year deal you wouldnt get Ball for taking him off their hands!

[BobbieL]

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Which means Suns are getting Love

The problem with the gambo tweet is Kevin Love to the Suns is not an absurd trade. I mean, McD wants a stretch four and if you trade Warren -- isn't Love better than ILyasova and some other players mentioned

Every name Gambo has said for PG and Stretch 4 this week have been names said on this board. So he really shouldn't be saying like he had a major scoop today when he really didn't today about stopping the LOve news . And he hasn't had a major scoop since Devon Reed and before that Stever Nash for the Suns.

[thamadkant]

Kendall Marshall couldn't hold Lonzo's used jocks.


Marshall might have passing skills and vision but he doesn't have athleticism, elite mobilty and energy/effort to be a starting NBA point guard

[Stix]

People need to realize that the whole idea of Ball/Deng is that Ball is the prize for taking on Deng, hence no sending out useful players. If we sent out any play, it would be because instead of dealing with the Lakers straight up we would be part of the 3-way that lands Kawhi in LA, and it would most likely be us sending Chandlers expiring to San Antonio for him to spend his last season with Aldridge. Spurs get Ingram/Kuzma/Chandler/Lakers draft picks for Kawhi.

Deng is useless therefore you'd essentially be paying over 23mil/yr for a point guard that can't shoot and is a PR nightmare. No thanks.

If that's really what you want, just sign Kendall Marshall and save 22 mil/yr

Your paying $24M for the highly touted #2 pick from last draft that almost averaged a triple double and who's FATHER is a PR nightmare. If we were told we could have the #2 pick in the draft (Who in my mind we would have used to draft ball) just for simply taking on Deng, i think we would have done it without any question. And i think we would take this deal with no question too.

6"6, 10/7/7/2 with great defense. You let the PointGuard Whisperer Kokosov work on getting his shot improved. You also hope that Lavar is too busy with LeMelo and trying to run his JBA League to muck things up here in Phoenix.

You can't fix this nightmare. In no universe is Lonzo Ball worth $24M. Hell, he's not even worth his rookie contract at this point. He was overhyped in the draft, thanks to Lavar, and apparently still is. He had one of the worst shooting percentages of any rookie over the past 30+ years. Again... no thanks.

[BobbieL]

Your paying $24M for the highly touted #2 pick from last draft that almost averaged a triple double and who's FATHER is a PR nightmare. If we were told we could have the #2 pick in the draft (Who in my mind we would have used to draft ball) just for simply taking on Deng, i think we would have done it without any question. And i think we would take this deal with no question too.

6"6, 10/7/7/2 with great defense. You let the PointGuard Whisperer Kokosov work on getting his shot improved. You also hope that Lavar is too busy with LeMelo and trying to run his JBA League to muck things up here in Phoenix.

My problem - more wasted cap space not just for one year but two

Second, the Suns already have enough young guys that another one will really jack with the cap when they all come due. . I get that Ball has skills but Deng is not worth it. If Deng were one year, no problem. Not two. Deng has 34m left

And if Deng were on a one year deal you wouldnt get Ball for taking him off their hands!

I get it Kerrsed - just not worth it when the Suns have so much cap tied up in crappy players. You subtract Chandler and add Deng - still a lot to me

[Kerrsed]

Deng is useless therefore you'd essentially be paying over 23mil/yr for a point guard that can't shoot and is a PR nightmare. No thanks.

If that's really what you want, just sign Kendall Marshall and save 22 mil/yr

Your paying $24M for the highly touted #2 pick from last draft that almost averaged a triple double and who's FATHER is a PR nightmare. If we were told we could have the #2 pick in the draft (Who in my mind we would have used to draft ball) just for simply taking on Deng, i think we would have done it without any question. And i think we would take this deal with no question too.

6"6, 10/7/7/2 with great defense. You let the PointGuard Whisperer Kokosov work on getting his shot improved. You also hope that Lavar is too busy with LeMelo and trying to run his JBA League to muck things up here in Phoenix.

You can't fix this nightmare. In no universe is Lonzo Ball worth $24M. Hell, he's not even worth his rookie contract at this point. He was overhyped in the draft, thanks to Lavar, and apparently still is. He had one of the worst shooting percentages of any rookie over the past 30+ years. Again... no thanks.

Yet in Smarts 4 seasons he has averaged a WORSE shooting percentage than Ball.....yet people seem to be all up on his nuts still....

[Stix]

Your paying $24M for the highly touted #2 pick from last draft that almost averaged a triple double and who's FATHER is a PR nightmare. If we were told we could have the #2 pick in the draft (Who in my mind we would have used to draft ball) just for simply taking on Deng, i think we would have done it without any question. And i think we would take this deal with no question too.

6"6, 10/7/7/2 with great defense. You let the PointGuard Whisperer Kokosov work on getting his shot improved. You also hope that Lavar is too busy with LeMelo and trying to run his JBA League to muck things up here in Phoenix.

You can't fix this nightmare. In no universe is Lonzo Ball worth $24M. Hell, he's not even worth his rookie contract at this point. He was overhyped in the draft, thanks to Lavar, and apparently still is. He had one of the worst shooting percentages of any rookie over the past 30+ years. Again... no thanks.

Yet in Smarts 4 seasons he has averaged a WORSE shooting percentage than Ball.....yet people seem to be all up on his nuts still....

Never said anything about Smart, I think he's just as bad. I also have no problem giving Ball a shot here on his current deal, but not with also having to pay Deng to ride the pine.

I'm on the PatBev wagon. Low risk, high reward player, and also cheap.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Your paying $24M for the highly touted #2 pick from last draft that almost averaged a triple double and who's FATHER is a PR nightmare. If we were told we could have the #2 pick in the draft (Who in my mind we would have used to draft ball) just for simply taking on Deng, i think we would have done it without any question. And i think we would take this deal with no question too.

6"6, 10/7/7/2 with great defense. You let the PointGuard Whisperer Kokosov work on getting his shot improved. You also hope that Lavar is too busy with LeMelo and trying to run his JBA League to muck things up here in Phoenix.

You can't fix this nightmare. In no universe is Lonzo Ball worth $24M. Hell, he's not even worth his rookie contract at this point. He was overhyped in the draft, thanks to Lavar, and apparently still is. He had one of the worst shooting percentages of any rookie over the past 30+ years. Again... no thanks.

Yet in Smarts 4 seasons he has averaged a WORSE shooting percentage than Ball.....yet people seem to be all up on his nuts still....

Pretty sure it's just a reflex to sh*t on Lakers players. Plus, his family is the f***ing worst. But Lonzo's D is great, his passing is great, and he shot well enough in college that we shouldn't foreclose the possibility that he'll end up a decent or even good outside shooter.

[Saberestar]

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Which means Suns are getting Love

The problem with the gambo tweet is Kevin Love to the Suns is not an absurd trade. I mean, McD wants a stretch four and if you trade Warren -- isn't Love better than ILyasova and some other players mentioned

Every name Gambo has said for PG and Stretch 4 this week have been names said on this board. So he really shouldn't be saying like he had a major scoop today when he really didn't today about stopping the LOve news . And he hasn't had a major scoop since Devon Reed and before that Stever Nash for the Suns.

He is not saying that the idea is absurd, he is saying that the rumor is absurd.

[BobbieL]

Which means Suns are getting Love

The problem with the gambo tweet is Kevin Love to the Suns is not an absurd trade. I mean, McD wants a stretch four and if you trade Warren -- isn't Love better than ILyasova and some other players mentioned

Every name Gambo has said for PG and Stretch 4 this week have been names said on this board. So he really shouldn't be saying like he had a major scoop today when he really didn't today about stopping the LOve news . And he hasn't had a major scoop since Devon Reed and before that Stever Nash for the Suns.

He is not saying that the idea is absurd, he is saying that the rumor is absurd.

I am listening - Burns brought the common sense and to show why Love makes some sense. Gambo said Love would cost 50m -- well if you take out Warren, and other guys - its probably an extra 15m. Ilysova, Love, Ariza, Bjelica - - Love is probably the best fit for the Suns with the RIGHT trade

[darealjuice]

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Scratch Thad Young off the hypothetical list

[WeekapaugGroove]

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Scratch Thad Young off the hypothetical list

And this greatly reduces the chances that Indi throws a big offer sheet at Gordon.

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[TeamTragic]

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Scratch Thad Young off the hypothetical list

And this greatly reduces the chances that Indi throws a big offer sheet at Gordon.

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Thats a shame he would’ve been a good fit