Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson - Pg 97-8 - Block Ness Monster catching on

[Knicks Byke]

The Knicks need to hire a special coach just for him. Hakeem, Kareem or even "The Big Fundamental" Tim Duncan. They could teach him things on and off the court. I believe it would be an investment well worth it.

In reality we should have Amare do it. He owes us for all the wine baths and nonsense. And yeah yeah, Amare isn't Mr Fundamental but truth is nobody wants fundamentals. All the top notch fundamental, deep in the post, 20 counters big men are dinosaurs or playing in a reduced role. What's up is down in the year 2018.

What Mitchell needs to learn these days is how to set a pick, take the right angle to the basket, jump/catch/jam. Amare can teach him that. Noah will take care of the rest.

I think you're confusing fundamentals with style. Fundamentals will always be very important. It always matters how you cut, how you set picks, basically how and when you do everything regardless of style. Styles change but fundamentals do not.

cosign. so many kids lack fundamentals now.

[stuporman]

i like mitchell because i get to pretend that we got someone as good as mo bamba after all even though it'll never work out that way

Fake it till you make it.

[dakomish23]

Because Mills decided he didn't want to shackle Fizdale with a starting lineup of primarily 1's and 2's and he saw a freak 7fter who is just scratching the surface of his potential at a time O'Quinn opted out and Noah is on the downside. But I can see how creating a battle royale between Burke, Baker, Frank, Mudiay, ThJr annd Dotson would be the better option.

You are trying to build your core for the 2020’s right now. They liked him, they took him. That’s fine.

But that's the answer right there. His potential, physical attributes and his skillset based on how little he's played makes this a no brainer. We can draft 2nd round guards any day. How often will you find McDonalds All American contributors previous slated as a potential lotto pick that fall to the early 2nd round with this kids skillset?

In no way shape or form should any of those guys except Frank prevent you from taking a guard if you liked him.

So rather than create some certainty at those spots, you prefer to add to the roster confusion?

KOQ & Noah should have no effect on picking a big for the future.

Neither should Melton.

Sure we can pick a big anytime. But how often will one with Robinson's potential will just fall to us? Unless you're hope is to continuously be in the lotto until the next KAT gets here, it's a no brainer to get a freak, under the radar C in the 2nd round over a 6'4" guard with a second round pick.

Vets and low ceiling guards who likely won’t be a part of that team should not be guiding the Knicks team building effort.

Your logic is beyond flawed.

As is yours wondering why we passed on Melton for Robinson.

A. I didn’t have a problem with taking Robinson. I asked why we passed on Melton as in did anyone hear anything about him and the Knicks.

B. Not drafting another guard does not create certainty. It reperesents a missed opportunity if he proves to be a keeper and those guys didn’t.

C. You brought up KOQ opting out and Noah dead weight as a reason to take him. I’m saying their situation should of had no bearing on attaining another big. You saying “neither should Melton” does not apply to the original statement you made. You just wanted to say that.

D. We didn’t even discuss the merits of taking Melton instead of Mitchell. You just made excuses b/c that’s the pick we made. If we took Melton, you’d make excuses for why we picked him. In fact, you’d be using the mediocre guards as an excuse to get a guard with higher upside.

[dakomish23]

Melton went about 15-20 spots too late, imo. I liked him and Vanderbilt for our 2nd round pick. Maybe Frazier.

But I didn't expect Robinson to be there for us. I think he was just too good a risk to pass up. Melton is a likely 3rd guard sort of player. Robinson could be a high end starter.

Yeah if that’s the ceiling it makes sense.

I just really loved Melton. Was pissed that we couldn’t see him play all year.

It's ridiculous that Houston got him, too. Rich get richer.

Should help them with defending the GSW guards at the minimum.

[camillepd]

If you watch Mitchell Robinson interview from the Jordan brand classic later year, you'll see a well spoken and very polite young man:

Watch on YouTube

[Nazrmohamed]

The Knicks need to hire a special coach just for him. Hakeem, Kareem or even "The Big Fundamental" Tim Duncan. They could teach him things on and off the court. I believe it would be an investment well worth it.

In reality we should have Amare do it. He owes us for all the wine baths and nonsense. And yeah yeah, Amare isn't Mr Fundamental but truth is nobody wants fundamentals. All the top notch fundamental, deep in the post, 20 counters big men are dinosaurs or playing in a reduced role. What's up is down in the year 2018.

What Mitchell needs to learn these days is how to set a pick, take the right angle to the basket, jump/catch/jam. Amare can teach him that. Noah will take care of the rest.

he has other skills. he can pass too. and he should work on his shot. why not be complete if you can be?

Well, I heard he got a decent shot already. He should continue working on it. My post was more about the advanced post skills that I wish every big man would practice but have been re-educated isn't conducive to team basketball.

[Nazrmohamed]

In reality we should have Amare do it. He owes us for all the wine baths and nonsense. And yeah yeah, Amare isn't Mr Fundamental but truth is nobody wants fundamentals. All the top notch fundamental, deep in the post, 20 counters big men are dinosaurs or playing in a reduced role. What's up is down in the year 2018.

What Mitchell needs to learn these days is how to set a pick, take the right angle to the basket, jump/catch/jam. Amare can teach him that. Noah will take care of the rest.

I think you're confusing fundamentals with style. Fundamentals will always be very important. It always matters how you cut, how you set picks, basically how and when you do everything regardless of style. Styles change but fundamentals do not.

cosign. so many kids lack fundamentals now.

I'm glad the both of you still believe.

[Jalen Bluntson]

If you watch Mitchell Robinson interview from the Jordan brand classic later year, you'll see a well spoken and very polite young man:

Watch on YouTube

Well spoken? Nah. Very polite. Respectful. Seems a liittle off to me honestly. That was far from well spoken IMO. He was what 17-18?

I'm excited about his game. I'm not excited about his interviews.

[Jalen Bluntson]

In reality we should have Amare do it. He owes us for all the wine baths and nonsense. And yeah yeah, Amare isn't Mr Fundamental but truth is nobody wants fundamentals. All the top notch fundamental, deep in the post, 20 counters big men are dinosaurs or playing in a reduced role. What's up is down in the year 2018.

What Mitchell needs to learn these days is how to set a pick, take the right angle to the basket, jump/catch/jam. Amare can teach him that. Noah will take care of the rest.

he has other skills. he can pass too. and he should work on his shot. why not be complete if you can be?

Well, I heard he got a decent shot already. He should continue working on it. My post was more about the advanced post skills that I wish every big man would practice but have been re-educated isn't conducive to team basketball.

Wasn't Amar'e a black hole though?

[RHODEY]

If you watch Mitchell Robinson interview from the Jordan brand classic later year, you'll see a well spoken and very polite young man:

Watch on YouTube

Well spoken? Nah. Very polite. Respectful. Seems a liittle off to me honestly. That was far from well spoken IMO. He was what 17-18?

I'm excited about his game. I'm not excited about his interviews.

Yeah he's checks off a lot of boxes but "well spoken" isn't one of them. No big deal to me though, John Starks was similarly afflicted ...and it really didn't matter on the court.

[awy]

you can overthink things on the court. it's all about situational awareness and intuitive responses. he needs to understand his role in the defense and not be out of position and take himself out of plays etc.

the articulation thing is actually more and more important now i feel with the need for defense to communicate. he's not going to be barking orders at people but he needs to be comfortable talking on the court and communicating with other players. will be one of the things to look for.

[blanko]

People need to chill

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[IllmaticHandler]

Some of you mofos dont have well thought out points. So its all good.

[BBALLER4FR]

Some of you mofos dont have well thought out points. So its all good.

[RHODEY]

you can overthink things on the court. it's all about situational awareness and intuitive responses. he needs to understand his role in the defense and not be out of position and take himself out of plays etc.

the articulation thing is actually more and more important now i feel with the need for defense to communicate. he's not going to be barking orders at people but he needs to be comfortable talking on the court and communicating with other players. will be one of the things to look for.

Not worried at all , look at Kawhai Lenoard - his shyness doesn't seem effect his defensive communication whatsoever.

[Clyde Frazier]

you can overthink things on the court. it's all about situational awareness and intuitive responses. he needs to understand his role in the defense and not be out of position and take himself out of plays etc.

the articulation thing is actually more and more important now i feel with the need for defense to communicate. he's not going to be barking orders at people but he needs to be comfortable talking on the court and communicating with other players. will be one of the things to look for.

my guess is he'll have less trouble communicating on the court when he's in the zone than in front of reporters. he clearly needs media training, but that's why he's a project. i'm excited to see how he develops over the next year on and off the court.

[fatalogic]

I could care less if he sounded like this in interviews

Watch on YouTube

As long as he does this on the court

Watch on YouTube

[Fury]

[Jalen Bluntson]

you can overthink things on the court. it's all about situational awareness and intuitive responses. he needs to understand his role in the defense and not be out of position and take himself out of plays etc.

the articulation thing is actually more and more important now i feel with the need for defense to communicate. he's not going to be barking orders at people but he needs to be comfortable talking on the court and communicating with other players. will be one of the things to look for.

my guess is he'll have less trouble communicating on the court when he's in the zone than in front of reporters. he clearly needs media training, but that's why he's a project. i'm excited to see how he develops over the next year on and off the court.

My hope is that your guess is right.

He doesn't appear to be the sharpest tool in the shed. Could have been pushed through HS. Hope his basketball IQ isn't an issue. It could be shyness and awkwardness but, I just get the vibe he's not all there.

[Nazrmohamed]

he has other skills. he can pass too. and he should work on his shot. why not be complete if you can be?

Well, I heard he got a decent shot already. He should continue working on it. My post was more about the advanced post skills that I wish every big man would practice but have been re-educated isn't conducive to team basketball.

Wasn't Amar'e a black hole though?

Funny you say that because he's, he became a black hole.......But only once he started to work on his game to become more of a post player people thought he should be. After working out with Hakeem. Prior to that Amare was similar to Deandre Jordan in that it was all P&R finishing, catch and dunk stuff. But at the time Pheonix was losing in the playoffs and critics started telling him he needed a post game. By the time he learned it ironically the nba had changed to the point where his old skillset became more desirable than his new one.

Not to mention he was older and less explosive.