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Portland's Off-Season Has Officially Arrived

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Re: Portland's Off-Season Has Officially Arrived 

Post#481 » by JasonStern » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:14 am

Masterfully wrote:
JasonStern wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/portland-trail-blazers/notable-blazer-free-agents-recent-history

Joel Przybilla
Career Stats: 3.9 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 1.4 bpg

Steve Blake
Career Stats: 6.5 ppg, 4.0 apg, 2.1 rpg

Andre Miller
Career Stats: 13.3 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 1.3 apg

Wesley Matthews
Career Stats: 13.8 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 38.3 3P%

Al-Farouq Aminu
Career Stats: 7.5 ppg, and 5.9 rpg


encouraging.

Shouldn’t Blake be listed 4 times?


fine.

Joel Przybilla
Career Stats: 3.9 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 1.4 bpg

Steve Blake
Career Stats: 6.5 ppg, 4.0 apg, 2.1 rpg

Steve Blake
Career Stats: 6.5 ppg, 4.0 apg, 2.1 rpg

Steve Blake
Career Stats: 6.5 ppg, 4.0 apg, 2.1 rpg

Steve Blake
Career Stats: 6.5 ppg, 4.0 apg, 2.1 rpg


discouraging.
Because love can burn like a cigarette.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
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Post#482 » by Norm2953 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:47 am

Has anyone heard if Portland has extended a QO to their other RFA or maintained their cap hold
on Ed Davis? Given this market, I think they could get Ed Davis back for the MLE
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Post#483 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:26 am

Norm2953 wrote:Has anyone heard if Portland has extended a QO to their other RFA or maintained their cap hold
on Ed Davis? Given this market, I think they could get Ed Davis back for the MLE


No news on the other RFA's, word is Portland still weighing their options there.

Also no word on Ed, but don't see much reason for them to renounce him since they don't have a desperate need to cut salary for anything. My guess is they'll hold onto Ed's rights and see what kind of market there is for him, if it's pretty lite, they may offer him what other teams are offering and keep him. With how little money is gonna be available and how many bigs are on the market, I think Davis' value will probably be around the mini-MLE.
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Post#484 » by Norm2953 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:45 am

The market sucks for guys like Ed but I would not be surprised if Portland offers
him a contract for roughly Aminu’s contract but if he does not take it, releases
their cap hold given the number
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Post#485 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:33 am

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The players union really screwed themselves by not accepting a smoothing of the cap hike. It was good for them for one year, but now it's really hurting a lot of the players.
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Post#486 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:37 am

Norm2953 wrote:The market sucks for guys like Ed but I would not be surprised if Portland offers
him a contract for roughly Aminu’s contract but if he does not take it, releases
their cap hold given the number


I would love to see Ed on an Aminu level deal, that's not just good for the team on the court, but Ed on a reasonable contract is a great trade chip too.
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Post#487 » by Wizenheimer » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:36 pm

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The players union really screwed themselves by not accepting a smoothing of the cap hike. It was good for them for one year, but now it's really hurting a lot of the players.


the owners really wanted that smoothing provision; I think for two reasons, one stated and one unstated. The stated one was for the consistency and predictability of phasing in the massive cap increases and the impact of that on salaries. The unstated one is because they knew that wouldn't be able to help themselves and would give out a bunch of albatross deals that would bite them in their collective asses...and they sure did.

relatively, players are headed for hurt but I'm thinking hurt isn't the quite the right word. For instance, Ed Davis may be hurt in that he may end up making 500-600K a month rather then 800-900K. That's a significant difference. But if he's making 20M over the next 3 years, he's in the 1%, and actually, the top third of the 1%. I'd like to be hurt like that

but for sure, any player, other then the elite, that becomes a free agent in 2018 will likely get hosed compared to other years. There may be a lot of 1-2 year deals this summer

edit: more on this....

Including scale contracts for first-round picks and player options that will likely be picked up before Friday's deadline, NBA teams are currently committed to spending about $2.8 billion for the 2018-19 season. Exactly how much they will spend is impossible to predict with certainty, but in the recent past, teams have typically spent between 10 and 15 percent more than the collective salary cap for all 30 teams (projected to be a little more than $3 billion in 2018-19).

Assuming spending again falls in that same band, that means teams have somewhere between about $500 million on the low end and about $645 million on the high end to spend on free agents. That's bad news given that collectively the players hitting free agency made $650 million in 2017-18. At best, free agents will as a group achieve parity with their former level of pay. At worst, they're collectively in for a pay cut of more than 20 percent.


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23940071/nba-free-agency-all-big-signings-wins

Pelton does some calculations based upon WARP in that article as well, if you like that kind of stuff

he also talks a bit about Nurkic's dilemma, but I think he misses a lot of context talking about the threat of Nurkic playing for his QO
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Post#488 » by deanwoof » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:23 pm

I’m calling Nick Stauskas as a bargain bin hunt by Olshey
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Post#489 » by Ripcity4life » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:07 am

Going to make a bold prediction -- DeAndre Jordan opted out of his contract and everyone thinks he will be in Dallas but if for some reason he does not then i feel SOMEHOW he ends up a Blazer.

prediction #2 -- Noel who last played for the Mavs will be rumored to have interest from the Blazers and i think he would be a good PURE D PF/C signing or Sign and Trade -- IF it happened -- Myers and a future 1st to Dallas for Noel
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Post#490 » by The Sebastian Express » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:28 am

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Post#491 » by Ripcity4life » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:00 am

1st domino is the Blazers move for James -- LOL -- not really but i do think they are going to get someone who we never thought they could get
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Re: Portland's Off-Season Has Officially Arrived 

Post#492 » by DusterBuster » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:00 am

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Can't imagine this bodes well for Layman's Blazer career (not that that should bother anyone).
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Post#493 » by The Sebastian Express » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:39 am

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Can't imagine this bodes well for Layman's Blazer career (not that that should bother anyone).


Good. They're all nice guys, and obviously Shabazz has a future in the league, and who knows.. maybe even Pat can become a consistent like 8ppg player or something, but we need a bigger backup point and.. we need people more consistent than Pat and Jake.
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Post#494 » by Norm2953 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:39 am

How much do you want to bet the Pat Connaughton's of the world end up filling up the rosters
for one of the super teams?
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Post#495 » by Ripcity4life » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:22 am

Pat C would be a perfect fit for a contender looking for a little shooting i am already predicting he goes to either the Spurs OR 76ers
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Post#496 » by DusterBuster » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:29 am

Norm2953 wrote:How much do you want to bet the Pat Connaughton's of the world end up filling up the rosters
for one of the super teams?


I'd take that bet. The superteams can do better than Pat, even at the end of the bench.

I won't be shocked if Pat ends up back in baseball for good.
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Re: Portland's Off-Season Has Officially Arrived 

Post#497 » by Matt800 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:23 am

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Norm2953 wrote:How much do you want to bet the Pat Connaughton's of the world end up filling up the rosters
for one of the super teams?


I won't be shocked if Pat ends up back in baseball for good.


I could see that happening depending on how much he really cares about basketball. But pat had moments of being really solid. I think if he really wants to be in the nba and continues to work he could surprise and be a good role player on a good team.
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Post#498 » by The Sebastian Express » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:18 pm

I'll be dropping this thread at 8pm our time, an hour before FA starts, and pinning a clean start FA thread just to keep things clearer and more on topic instead of an overall offseason thread. If someone else wants to start that thread between 7-8pm tonight feel free, that's cool, thanks for all the great conversation we've had here and please feel free to continue your conversations of course.
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Post#499 » by Blazinaway » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:44 pm

any news on Layman?
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Post#500 » by Fitz303 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:38 pm

I'm a little surprised on Napier. I thought they'd at least try and get a feel for his value on the market. Maybe they're really sold on Baldwin. I know I was definitely impressed by what I saw at the end of the season.

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