Around the NBA 2018-2019 (Non-Celtics Talk)

[GregB]

Dirk’s been loyal to Dallas and has a ring to show for it. Always appreciated him over there. The Last of the Mohicans... everyone from here on forth will treat the NBA like AAU.

Dirk 1 year MLE?

[tlee324]

Dirk’s been loyal to Dallas and has a ring to show for it. Always appreciated him over there. The Last of the Mohicans... everyone from here on forth will treat the NBA like AAU.

Dirk 1 year MLE?

I actually think he’d make more on the market honestly. But he’s only working with Dallas I’m sure. He ain’t going nowhere.

[ConstableGeneva]

If Warriors get Deandre Jordan for the MLE, I'm quitting the NBA













...for a day. Then I'm back cheering for my Cs to kick their ass.

[ConstableGeneva]

I still don't understand why OKC traded for Melo.

[Darthlukey]

I still don't understand why OKC traded for Melo.

They rolled the dice....and lost. If there is a chance they get Olympic Melo, they would be more dangerous. Unfortunately it didn't come off. One more year of that terrible contract, likewise if they had kanter as he just opted in

[ConstableGeneva]

I still don't understand why OKC traded for Melo.

They rolled the dice....and lost. If there is a chance they get Olympic Melo, they would be more dangerous. Unfortunately it didn't come off. One more year of that terrible contract, likewise if they had kanter as he just opted in

Olympic Melo had 4 all-stars around him on the floor. He doesn't really need to do much. He also didn't need to defend as they were offensively dominant. Melo of past few years has been one of the laziest defenders in the league.

If they are in tax, there's a huge difference between 28M and 18.6M.

Unless it was a way to convince Westbrook to sign his max and not leave, it was a bad gamble to begin with. The PG gamble I totally understand and would do same.

[Darthlukey]

I still don't understand why OKC traded for Melo.

They rolled the dice....and lost. If there is a chance they get Olympic Melo, they would be more dangerous. Unfortunately it didn't come off. One more year of that terrible contract, likewise if they had kanter as he just opted in

Olympic Melo had 4 all-stars around him on the floor. He doesn't really need to do much. He also didn't need to defend as they were offensively dominant. Melo of past few years has been one of the laziest defenders in the league.

If they are in tax, there's a huge difference between 28M and 18.6M.

Unless it was a way to convince Westbrook to sign his max and not leave, it was a bad gamble to begin with. The PG gamble I totally understand and would do same.

It wasn't a smart gamble by any stretch, but either way they were going nowhere

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Diamantidis]

I still don't understand why OKC traded for Melo.

They rolled the dice....and lost. If there is a chance they get Olympic Melo, they would be more dangerous. Unfortunately it didn't come off. One more year of that terrible contract, likewise if they had kanter as he just opted in

I never understood the whole olympic Melo thing. We re talking about a tournament that lasts for a month, where USA had to face mostly low competition. Its has nothing to do with a full NBA season.
Melo is an outdated player, he has been one for quite some time, who also is way past his prime. His trade to OKC didnt make sense to me since the beginning, it was more like a panic move: "We lost Durant, we must keep Westbrook at all costs, so lets get whoever star we can get this summer, to make him happy". How was the whole thing supposed to work, when u have 2 ballstoppers who dont play any defence in the same team?

[Valid]

I still don't understand why OKC traded for Melo.

They rolled the dice....and lost. If there is a chance they get Olympic Melo, they would be more dangerous. Unfortunately it didn't come off. One more year of that terrible contract, likewise if they had kanter as he just opted in

Olympic Melo had 4 all-stars around him on the floor. He doesn't really need to do much. He also didn't need to defend as they were offensively dominant. Melo of past few years has been one of the laziest defenders in the league.

If they are in tax, there's a huge difference between 28M and 18.6M.

Unless it was a way to convince Westbrook to sign his max and not leave, it was a bad gamble to begin with. The PG gamble I totally understand and would do same.

It was basically a "let's accumulate all of the firepower we possibly can to give the Warriors a run" kind of move. I'm sure they knew the risks at the time. No one could possibly look at a trio of Russell Westbrook, Paul George and Carmelo Anthony and say, "Hey, that's a great fit!"

[ConstableGeneva]

They rolled the dice....and lost. If there is a chance they get Olympic Melo, they would be more dangerous. Unfortunately it didn't come off. One more year of that terrible contract, likewise if they had kanter as he just opted in

Olympic Melo had 4 all-stars around him on the floor. He doesn't really need to do much. He also didn't need to defend as they were offensively dominant. Melo of past few years has been one of the laziest defenders in the league.

If they are in tax, there's a huge difference between 28M and 18.6M.

Unless it was a way to convince Westbrook to sign his max and not leave, it was a bad gamble to begin with. The PG gamble I totally understand and would do same.

It was basically a "let's accumulate all of the firepower we possibly can to give the Warriors a run" kind of move. I'm sure they knew the risks at the time. No one could possibly look at a trio of Russell Westbrook, Paul George and Carmelo Anthony and say, "Hey, that's a great fit!"

They would've been better off trading for a 3&D guy and shoring up their bench if they wanted to contend in the West.

[Valid]

Olympic Melo had 4 all-stars around him on the floor. He doesn't really need to do much. He also didn't need to defend as they were offensively dominant. Melo of past few years has been one of the laziest defenders in the league.

If they are in tax, there's a huge difference between 28M and 18.6M.

Unless it was a way to convince Westbrook to sign his max and not leave, it was a bad gamble to begin with. The PG gamble I totally understand and would do same.

It was basically a "let's accumulate all of the firepower we possibly can to give the Warriors a run" kind of move. I'm sure they knew the risks at the time. No one could possibly look at a trio of Russell Westbrook, Paul George and Carmelo Anthony and say, "Hey, that's a great fit!"

They would've been better off trading for a 3&D guy and shoring up their bench if they wanted to contend in the West.

Agreed, but I just think that was their thought process at the time. The idea of all of that offensive talent on one team is certainly tantalizing. They were just hoping it would somehow fit, even though it never seemed all that probable.

But yeah. That front office is not good. Good at drafting; bad at everything else. I'm not even sure Billy King has pulled off as many bad trades as Presti has.

[djFan71]

It was basically a "let's accumulate all of the firepower we possibly can to give the Warriors a run" kind of move. I'm sure they knew the risks at the time. No one could possibly look at a trio of Russell Westbrook, Paul George and Carmelo Anthony and say, "Hey, that's a great fit!"

They would've been better off trading for a 3&D guy and shoring up their bench if they wanted to contend in the West.

Agreed, but I just think that was their thought process at the time. The idea of all of that offensive talent on one team is certainly tantalizing. They were just hoping it would somehow fit, even though it never seemed all that probable.

But yeah. That front office is not good. Good at drafting; bad at everything else. I'm not even sure Billy King has pulled off as many bad trades as Presti has.

They gave away basically nothing for him - Kanter's horrible contract and Doug McDermott. People weren't trading anything of value for that. Still wasn't a great trade by any means, and Melo actually ended up worse than expected (even with his "sacrifices"). But, it's ultimately more of a garbage in garbage out trade than anything horribly one-sided.

[Valid]

They would've been better off trading for a 3&D guy and shoring up their bench if they wanted to contend in the West.

Agreed, but I just think that was their thought process at the time. The idea of all of that offensive talent on one team is certainly tantalizing. They were just hoping it would somehow fit, even though it never seemed all that probable.

But yeah. That front office is not good. Good at drafting; bad at everything else. I'm not even sure Billy King has pulled off as many bad trades as Presti has.

They gave away basically nothing for him - Kanter's horrible contract and Doug McDermott. People weren't trading anything of value for that. Still wasn't a great trade by any means, and Melo actually ended up worse than expected (even with his "sacrifices"). But, it's ultimately more of a garbage in garbage out trade than anything horribly one-sided.

The contract is what makes it so bad. So, while they didn't trade much for him, they have no cap space now because of him.

[djFan71]

Agreed, but I just think that was their thought process at the time. The idea of all of that offensive talent on one team is certainly tantalizing. They were just hoping it would somehow fit, even though it never seemed all that probable.

But yeah. That front office is not good. Good at drafting; bad at everything else. I'm not even sure Billy King has pulled off as many bad trades as Presti has.

They gave away basically nothing for him - Kanter's horrible contract and Doug McDermott. People weren't trading anything of value for that. Still wasn't a great trade by any means, and Melo actually ended up worse than expected (even with his "sacrifices"). But, it's ultimately more of a garbage in garbage out trade than anything horribly one-sided.

The contract is what makes it so bad. So, while they didn't trade much for him, they have no cap space now because of him.

I think they would still be capped out with Kanter instead, but could be wrong on that.

[tlee324]

I remember having to deal with “Olympic Melo” arguments when some wanted him here lol. Yikes.

[colaroaster]

melo talking about "sacrificing for the team" to remain a knick (6M on 123M contract) was pure gold

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

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Sure as heck ain't Danny!! I remember we took Orien Greene over Amir because Ainge made a promise. (Thankfully, it was his last promise)

[Darthlukey]

It was basically a "let's accumulate all of the firepower we possibly can to give the Warriors a run" kind of move. I'm sure they knew the risks at the time. No one could possibly look at a trio of Russell Westbrook, Paul George and Carmelo Anthony and say, "Hey, that's a great fit!"

They would've been better off trading for a 3&D guy and shoring up their bench if they wanted to contend in the West.

Agreed, but I just think that was their thought process at the time. The idea of all of that offensive talent on one team is certainly tantalizing. They were just hoping it would somehow fit, even though it never seemed all that probable.

But yeah. That front office is not good. Good at drafting; bad at everything else. I'm not even sure Billy King has pulled off as many bad trades as Presti has.

Mind you, if the hub of your team is Russ, not a lot of trades are going to help the team

[tlee324]

Anyone expecting Kobe to come out of retirement to play with LeBron?