2018 NBA Draft Talk

Dloading99 · Post #1081 » by **Dloading99** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:46 pm

So is Robinson as good as Cj Mcollomb from Portland?

nickhx2 · Post #1082 » by **nickhx2** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:14 am

the hope is that he develops into something similar

Neddy · Post #1083 » by **Neddy** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:20 am

Ranma wrote:
clips4ever wrote:But you guys gotta understand that we certainly tried to conduct those trades but the buying price was way too high (Taking Parsons contract in exchange for Harris and the 2 picks for the 4th pick, even though Doncic went a pick before anyways). In the case of Kawhi, I think the Spurs keep him this offseason. They're very patient with him and they have no real reason to rush and trade him now, so that's not our fault either. We probably did the best we could do in terms of trades and ended up with our point guard of the future (regarded as the best PG this draft by many) and a guard that'll either develop into a smart JR Smith or a Klay Thompson with less defensive ability. We did well this draft so I'm happy with the results.

Even if you factor out Doncic and Kawhi, this draft was disappointing given what was still left on the board when it ws the Clippers' turns to pick. A good rule of thumb is that you always draft best player available (BPA) regardless of need, especially in the lottery. This is particularly true with a draft class that was considered deep. In this area of the draft board, we should have been looking for prospects with more star potential, especially given the lack of such players the team currently has. It's not like the Clippers are just one or two players away from competing for a championship right now.

I'll have to expand in more detail my opinion on the matter given how late it is at the moment, but neither Shai Gilgeous-Alexander or Jerome Robinson were considered to have the significant upside of a star player. SGA is more likely than Robinson to become one, but at this juncture, there were other prospects with higher ceilings such as Michael Porter, Jr., Zhaire Smith, Lonnie Walker IV, and I'll even argue Anfernee Simons, There are question marks and trade-offs that push each of those prospects either up or down the draft board, but suffice to say, that there would be less objections had we traded down and selected Robinson with a late first-round pick than a lottery selection.

For some reason, I also thought of J.R. Smith when I'm reading about Robinson, but they're not comparable. Smith was a McDonald's All-American who had tremendous athleticism. His attitude and shot-selection devalued him as a prospect. And these comparisons of Robinson to Donovan Mitchell I'm seeing elsewhere are downright lazy wishful thinking. Again, Robinson is not nearly the athlete Mitchell is and, conversely, Mitchell isn't the shooter that Robinson portends to be just yet. Mitchell impressed and skyrocketed up draft boards in limited fashion because he made drastic improvements to his overall game in a rather short period of time during the pre-draft process. Robinson is being judged mostly on what he's shown during his college career with glimpses during workouts that showed parts of his game that weren't showcased previously.

well first of all, thank you for your heartfelt message about my mother's passing. thank you.

secondly, for the topic in hand, I don't think there is a single clipper fan in this forum who honestly thought we could end up with Shai in the first round, so, the rest is trivial.

lastly, as far as the Robinson pick is concerned, if the medical was generally OK but we passed on porter JR, then it is a fireable offense in 2 to 3 years, but I doubt it. this is not because I am a sort of a puppet of authoritarianism, but because kids tend to learn defense a bit after they learn offense first, which makes our selection a work in progress. but Porter JR was a medical mystery, that losing that pick after Shai may go in history as a footnote like Ely next to Wilcox of our own past, but to rebuild with positive gain in mind, we must find the right player to fit our system, and I do think our own 13th pick could be just that.

wco81 · Post #1084 » by **wco81** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:13 am

Dloading99 wrote:So is Robinson as good as Cj Mcollomb from Portland?

I like CJ as a person but as a player, he helps gets you to the playoffs but not do much once there.

Being an undersized 2, he has to really work off the dribble a lot to create shots for himself.

Forte IV · Post #1085 » by **Forte IV** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:20 am

If Porter turns out to be amazing we arent the only team to pass on him

Max Headrom · Post #1086 » by **Max Headrom** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:03 am

Forte IV wrote:If Porter turns out to be amazing we arent the only team to pass on him

Well, it's possible he could miss the entire season according to the Nuggets so, a 19 year old with back problem is a no go.

Ranma · Post #1087 » by **Ranma** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:45 am

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Ranma · Post #1089 » by **Ranma** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:57 am

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Ranma · Post #1090 » by **Ranma** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:21 am

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ESPN's draft analytics model believes the Clippers' selection of Jerome Robinson at No. 13 was a major reach. The model ranked the former Boston College Eagle as the 54th-best player in this class, with just a 17% chance to become a starting-caliber player or better.

esqtvd · Post #1091 » by **esqtvd** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:32 am

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If Ramna actually read our board that he spends so much time making pronouncements and posting retweets on, this would be old news

but rock on, bro

Jerome was not going to last
trading down in hopes of cleverly scooping him up cheap

would be a clown move

and Jerry West is no clown

Ranma · Post #1092 » by **Ranma** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:50 am

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esqtvd · Post #1093 » by **esqtvd** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:02 am

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Because it’s never too early: Presenting our first set of Top 60 rankings for the 2019 draft

um, yes it is

compare the top 60 from last year
to the actual draft this year

look, I don't want to ruin poor Ramna's fun

but WTF

Ranma · Post #1094 » by **Ranma** » Sun Jul 1, 2018 6:34 pm

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wco81 · Post #1095 » by **wco81** » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:46 pm

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Strange, SportsCenter showed a lot of highlights of the Canada-Dominican Republic game, featuring Barrett, who is suppose to be the top prospect for 2019.

They said he's kind of like Tracy McGrady, though they didn't show any clips of him shooting, mostly attacking the rim.

But it was against the Dominican Republic.

nickhx2 · Post #1096 » by **nickhx2** » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:06 pm

i watched clips of barrett in a u19 game i think? his shooting was great

Ranma · Post #1097 » by **Ranma** » Sun Jul 1, 2018 11:13 pm

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Ranma · Post #1098 » by **Ranma** » Thu Jul 5, 2018 12:32 am

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Post #1099 » by **mkwest** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:09 pm

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wco81 · Post #1100 » by **wco81** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:38 pm

Holy cow another back surgery?

What do you predict the Clippers will do on Draft Night? (vote for up to 2 options)