Fire coach Brooks thread...

[Wizfanman]

Coach Brooks is solid but highly overrated in my opinion. My biggest gripe with him is his rotation. I lost all confidence in him when he consistently gave Lawson minutes over Sato in the playoffs. Also sitting Wall in the final game when we could've gotten a much easier matchup in the playoffs had we won. He was mainly brought in for bait to get Durant to DC which failed miserably. Grunfield is the main problem but he's an untouchable made man I guess. I was wondering what people thought Brooks has to do this upcoming season to keep his job? Anything less than the 2nd round of the playoffs should get him terminated I would think.

[truwizfan4evr]

Woah where this come from? firing brooks won't make any difference on this team. it's Ernie we need firing not another head coach.

[FAH1223]

He’s not getting fired. There are $21M reasons why.

[Wizfanman]

Woah where this come from? firing brooks won't make any difference on this team. it's Ernie we need firing not another head coach.

Comes from frustration. To me he's totally uninspiring and a lackadaisical leader. I can't remember a team filled with so much locker room drama last year outside of the Arenas gun situation. I've given up on trying to get Ernie fired thats like getting Dan Snyder fired. This team needs to get blown up either by coaching or the roster if we dont advance past the first round imo.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Dwayne Casey was still coaching after his team eliminated ... you know who.

He got fired.

Hmmmm

[80sballboy]

Great timing. Ted doesn't want to play the lux tax, he won't play for a head coach that just won the Stanley Cup and you think he's going to fire Scott Brooks with 3 years left on his deal? It all starts at the top.

[Wizfanman]

Great timing. Ted doesn't want to play the lux tax, he won't play for a head coach that just won the Stanley Cup and you think he's going to fire Scott Brooks with 3 years left on his deal? It all starts at the top.

No I don't think he will, but he should. The Wizards are stale, only true fans care about them. If Teds goal is to just be mediocre he's doing an excellent job.

[Eli Babak]

It should be:

1) Sell the team, Leonsis!
2) Fire Grunfeld!
3) Fire Brooks!

It's obvious that he's going nowhere and I can't understand why Ernie rushed to give him a freaking 5 YEAR contract. Players seem to like him better than Wittman but tactics wise he hasn't impressed me. Hopefully things change this season...

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

Just perform at the same level that Grunfeld has as GM and that should be enough to get Brooks fired.

Oh wait, that doesn't answer your question does it?

[nate33]

Coach Brooks is solid but highly overrated in my opinion. My biggest gripe with him is his rotation. I lost all confidence in him when he consistently gave Lawson minutes over Sato in the playoffs. Also sitting Wall in the final game when we could've gotten a much easier matchup in the playoffs had we won. He was mainly brought in for bait to get Durant to DC which failed miserably. Grunfield is the main problem but he's an untouchable made man I guess. I was wondering what people thought Brooks has to do this upcoming season to keep his job? Anything less than the 2nd round of the playoffs should get him terminated I would think.

I think most would agree with this general sentiment. Brooks isn't awful, but he's not particularly good either.

I don't like to nitpick "rotations" all that much because I think most of us see what we want to see on that. It's easy to blame what didn't work in hindsight but we rarely credit when Brooks' rotations did work. Also, we confidently assume that our personal rotation preference would have worked better but we can't know that's the case. That said, I think there is pretty broad agreement that Sato doesn't play enough and Porter needs more touches and both failures have something to do with Brooks. I also think it's pretty fair to state that Brooks allows Wall and Beal to isolate far too much, particularly late in games when the team is nursing a small lead.

Overall, Brooks does not seem to be a great play caller and in-game strategist. I think Brooks is above average in player development though, and it's for that reason that I'm willing to live with many of his flaws. Ultimately, this team is not going to win a championship with Brooks at the helm but maybe he can develop the players who will play in a championship. A coaching change is necessary down the road. If that change happened now, I'd be pretty happy with it; but given Brooks' guaranteed contract, I don't see him being fired for at least another year, if not two. He's gonna have to "lose the team" to be fired this early in his contract.

Final thought: if Brooks is replaced, there is no guarantee that the replacement would be better than Brooks. There are only 7 or 8 coaches in this league that I consider to be difference makers. Brooks isn't one of them, but over 20 other teams don't have one of them either. Simply firing Brooks isn't enough. The key is to actually find a difference-maker to replace him.

[closg00]

Don't worry, if we slump again Scotty will be thrown under the bus like every other EG coach.

[Error Afflalo]

How many GMs who've never built a 50 win team get to hire a 5th coach during their tenure? We'll find out soon enough

[montestewart]

Dwayne Casey was still coaching after his team eliminated ... you know who.

He got fired.

Hmmmm

Ujiri piublically stated the the Raptors failure was all on him, almost sounding like he was assuring he would not blame Casey. But in the end, I guess he was taking the blame for hiring the wrong coach. Or something.

Can you imagine EG doing that, whether he fired the coach or not? I've never heard TerdEGgo imply that they held themselves accountable for Wizards failures. If they can't blame themselves, and they can't blame the coach and the top players, all locked into expensive long term guaranteed contracts, who can they blame?

They'll probably try to get some mileage out of blaming Gortat, but in the end I think they go back to a tried and true formula of blaming Washington, the fans, and injuries.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Dwayne Casey was still coaching after his team eliminated ... you know who.

He got fired.

Hmmmm

Ujiri publically stated the the Raptors failure was all on him, almost sounding like he was assuring he would not blame Casey. But in the end, I guess he was taking the blame for hiring the wrong coach. Or something.

Can you imagine EG doing that, whether he fired the coach or not? I've never heard TerdEGgo imply that they held themselves accountable for Wizards failures. If they can't blame themselves, and they can't blame the coach and the top players, all locked into expensive long term guaranteed contracts, who can they blame?

They'll probably try to get some mileage out of blaming Gortat, but in the end I think they go back to a tried and true formula of blaming Washington, the fans, and injuries.

Tyler Perry put it best:

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

HERE IS AN APOLOGY FOR SOMETHING....

I've always wondered who called DC Metro about the firearms and who IIRC asked Gilbert to bring them back. (REALLY DUMB IF HE DID SO)... I assumed EG and co snitched. I KNOW they threw Gilbert under the bus before any trial took place. But, GILBERT says Caron was the snitch...to which I say Caron thought it was for real dangerous.

IN RETROSPECT, Gilbert might have been sarcastic but Javaris was the real deal not the one to f with. CARON KNEW it was a dangerous situation. MY POV: it wouldn't have even bothered me. I know two female teachers in AL who were getting ready to throw down. One of them was packing. Many (15) years ago....

Here's a link about Gilbert's recollection of Gun Gate:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2018/01/17/gilbert-arenas-opens-up-about-his-infamous-gun-incident-with-the-wizards/109552680/

"Hey, MF, come pick one," Gilbert told Javaris while pointing to the weapons. "I'm going to shoot your [expletive] with one of these."

Arenas went on to call Butler a snitch after that.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I know this is the Fire Brooks Thread...but, that's boring. NOT happening. Ernie entrenched himself and this lackey with the 35M over 7 years hire. (WTF???? Even worse than the acquisitions of Nicholson, Smith, and Mahinmi.

I would rather reminisce more about Gilbert (ALWAYS entertaining and IMO when healthy, GILBERT WAS a better player overall than John Wall)...

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2012/01/gilbert-arenas-is-30-years-old.html

The NBA has had characters galore, but Arenas’ idiosyncrasies and flaky personae, at their height, were unmatched.

He carried the insistent whimsy of a child with the ability to drop 60 points in a game, something that’s still only been done by nine different players 16 different times in the last 26 NBA seasons — Tracy McGrady, Allen Iverson, Karl Malone, David Robinson, Tom Chambers, Shaquille O’Neal, Michael Jordan (four times), and Kobe Bryant (five times). Arenas’ brand of roller coaster fun captured basketball fans in Washington, and dragged franchise to its only sniff past the first round of the playoffs in the last 28 seasons.

Arenas was also the first big-time blogging athlete, and also one who exemplified the ills of careless athlete tweeting in the early days of the social media tool. Now, even with much of the league directly available in a variety of online ways, plot-twists similar to Arenas’ candid character cannot be found anywhere near in abundance

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Watch on YouTube

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Dwayne Casey was still coaching after his team eliminated ... you know who.

He got fired.

Hmmmm

Ujiri piublically stated the the Raptors failure was all on him, almost sounding like he was assuring he would not blame Casey. But in the end, I guess he was taking the blame for hiring the wrong coach. Or something.

Can you imagine EG doing that, whether he fired the coach or not? I've never heard TerdEGgo imply that they held themselves accountable for Wizards failures. If they can't blame themselves, and they can't blame the coach and the top players, all locked into expensive long term guaranteed contracts, who can they blame?

They'll probably try to get some mileage out of blaming Gortat, but in the end I think they go back to a tried and true formula of blaming Washington, the fans, and injuries.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/667191-wizards-coach-flip-saunders-takes-the-fall-for-ernie-grunfelds-decisions

Wizards coach Flip Saunders takes the fall for Ernie Grunfeld’s decisions

So, Ernie survived Flip Saunders...and before that...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/18/AR2009101801846.html?noredirect=on

Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld initially believed the team could still compete for a playoff spot, as it did the season before without Arenas.

But Jordan looked around and saw that outside of Butler and Jamison, he mostly had a crew of inexperienced players. He felt the season was already lost.

"The expectations remained that we should be a playoff team, that we should be .500 because we had two all-stars, and we have young talent," Jordan said. "If the expectations weren't going to change, then it was best that we part ways like we did."

WHAT GRACE DID TED/EG SHOW GILBERT and EJ???

Jordan was fired last November after the team got off to a 1-10 start with Arenas and center Brendan Haywood sidelined.

"You think it bothers me," Jordan asked with chuckle. "It doesn't bother me, disappoint me. Gilbert is a wonderful person. I know Gilbert personally and I know him professionally. He's a heck of a competitor, one of the top players in the league when he's healthy. He did a lot for the franchise. He did a lot for me as a coach.

EDDIE JORDAN THANKED GILBERT EVEN AFTER EG FIRED HIM...(WHICH WAS ALSO AFTER HE AND TED BACKED THE BUS OVER GIL)...

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

impunity

TED makes the money

EG makes the decisions

PHLUCK everything and everybody else...

[closg00]

Stephen A. Smith of ESPN: My sources tell me, obviously earlier in the year, Gortat had a real big-time issue with John Wall as teammates with the Washington Wizards. Scott Brooks constantly allowing folks to switch all the time instead of manning up and forcing them to guard folks, because Scott Brooks is known for not liking confrontation, basically took heat off individual players by allowing switches to take place every second. As a result, because John Wall wasn’t considered somebody too eager to guard anybody, Gortat found himself in the precarious situations of having to guard guards – quicker, smaller players. He’s older, clearly devoid of the lateral movement that will enable him to guard guys, was lamenting the fact that he was put in bad situations by John Wall’s lack of defense, said so in a team meeting. John Wall turned around and M.F.ed him to death. From that moment forward, Gortat wanted out of Washington.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/06/29/report-john-walls-lazy-defense-at-center-of-squabble-with-marcin-gortat/

OMFG This is EXACTLY the same kind of internal rot that disgusted Jay Glassie so-much that he quit and burned his bridges in Washington sports. BOTH Ernie Grunfeld and Scott Brooks should have been FIRED. EG continues to, through his mis-management, preside over a dysfunctional organization and Scott Brooks is a f++cking p++sy of a man. Just unbelievable.

...and oh, John is a cancerous presence clearly. This post could go under EG or Ted thread too