Woj: Lakers no longer a slam dunk for Lebron, Sixers are the team to watch **Update currently meeting with sixers**

[Chinook]

Yeah, I don't think that gets it done. It would be one thing if Ainge led with that and pushed away other teams, but unless RC has been calling Danny begging for Brown, suddenly adding him to the offer isn't going to get PATFO to break off talks with Philly.

What is Philly offering that is so great though? Fultz/Covington/Saric? Their own draft pick and a 2021 Miami pick? Thats not really an offer someone cant refuse there. The SAC pick has far greater value than any pick Philly can offer, the Memphis pick has better value than any Philly can offer.

Brown/Rozier/Williams/(whoever else needed to make cap work) + SAC/Mem/BOS picks. Beats whatever Philly can offer.

Brown can top anything Philly can realistically offer. Has a better chance to be a horse than ponies like RoCo. Good players but Brown has star potential and helped bring his team to the ECF. Him plus Rozier widens the gap even further.

Rozier doesn't widen any gap except the gap between what his fans think is a good trade, and what the rest of the world thinks is good.

[chrisab123]

What is Philly offering that is so great though? Fultz/Covington/Saric? Their own draft pick and a 2021 Miami pick? Thats not really an offer someone cant refuse there. The SAC pick has far greater value than any pick Philly can offer, the Memphis pick has better value than any Philly can offer.

Brown/Rozier/Williams/(whoever else needed to make cap work) + SAC/Mem/BOS picks. Beats whatever Philly can offer.

Brown can top anything Philly can realistically offer. Has a better chance to be a horse than ponies like RoCo. Good players but Brown has star potential and helped bring his team to the ECF. Him plus Rozier widens the gap even further.

Rozier doesn't widen any gap except the gap between what his fans think is a good trade, and what the rest of the world thinks is good.

If you said that before the playoffs it has more merit. Dude balled out. His value is probably never going to be higher

[NBA Moses]

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I **** hate Philadelphia and everything about that piece of **** city especially the pieces of **** that live there. Go eat some more horse **** off the street you gutter rats.

[BigTrade92]

Yeah because if Pop is seriously considering stepping down in two years, he DEFINITELY wants to trade his gruntled star in a package centered around a guy who forgot how to shoot a basketball.

Totally realistic. I can think of no better way for Pop to spend his last few years coaching.........

[PierceFan4ever]

I dont think they need to give up Irving to easily have the best offer. Brown would easily be the best player and they still have a treasure chest of 1st round picks.

Yeah, I don't think that gets it done. It would be one thing if Ainge led with that and pushed away other teams, but unless RC has been calling Danny begging for Brown, suddenly adding him to the offer isn't going to get PATFO to break off talks with Philly.

What is Philly offering that is so great though? Fultz/Covington/Saric? Their own draft pick and a 2021 Miami pick? Thats not really an offer someone cant refuse there. The SAC pick has far greater value than any pick Philly can offer, the Memphis pick has better value than any Philly can offer.

Brown/Rozier/Williams/(whoever else needed to make cap work) + SAC/Mem/BOS picks. Beats whatever Philly can offer.

Lol if Brown is part of a package from Boston then that easily destroys philly’s offer. Fultz’s value isn’t high imo dude can’t even play summer league games. If Boston offers Brown only La throwing the kitchen sink can beat Boston’s offer. Still don’t see Boston offering Brown however but they could beat out any Philly offer if they wanted to.

[sfernald]

Not really. I think it would just force us to outbid Philly which would be pretty easy if we added Jaylen Brown and the Sac pick.

I'm not sure that wins anymore. I'm not even sure it ever did, but Philly getting that MIA pick definitely makes them more compelling than before. Brown might be better than Fultz (I know you're going to scoff but it's eye-of-the-beholder right now), and the SAC pick may be better than the MIA pick (much closer), but then you have the rest of Philly's package, including two forwards who can complete their starting lineup. Even if Boston wins one value (and I'm not sure they do), they don't win on fit anymore.

Rozier is a much better fit next to Murray with his ability to play on and off the ball than Fultz. Morris is a solid.

I will agree to disagree. But a Celtics package with those those assets would seem to outbid Philly pretty easily. That’s not even factoring in potential sign and trade scenarios for Marcus Smart.

Lol Smart is a free agent. Do you see anyone bidding on Smart? No one wants smart especially for 15 million plus.. he has negative value in a trade. It’s not a spurs type of player.. breaks his hand in anger, etc.. he would have to approve a sign and trade and he can’t be combined in a trade based on the CBA... etc etc

[Chinook]

Brown can top anything Philly can realistically offer. Has a better chance to be a horse than ponies like RoCo. Good players but Brown has star potential and helped bring his team to the ECF. Him plus Rozier widens the gap even further.

Rozier doesn't widen any gap except the gap between what his fans think is a good trade, and what the rest of the world thinks is good.

If you said that before the playoffs it has more merit. Dude balled out. His value is probably never going to be higher

His value probably won't be higher. But that doesn't make it good, especially to SA.

[nitocobola]

SALTYCS fans, i'm out.

[levon]

Honestly I think Kawhi to Boston would've been done by now if Ainge was a little looser, but there are a couple of factors, namely the glut of wings, the unwillingness to trade Kyrie before knowing what they have with the fully healthy roster (based on the Bill Simmons podcast, they had great enthusiasm at the start of last year), and I think conserving assets for a higher upside superstar in AD.

With the Celtics eliminated, the Lakers have the best piece in Ingram, even if the Sixers can put together a higher value package. People say the Lakers gained leverage from PG not signing with LA, leaving that max space open, but the Sixers and Boston also gained leverage in that they're not even the least bit threatened by the "I'll only resign in LA" bit.

In any case, Leonard's value is depreciating by the second.

[Tony Franciosa]

mini nyc? lol - more like micro super micromini nyc.

I mean yes, every city is significantly smaller than NYC in America. But Philly is not exactly a ghost town, I don't know why people here act like Philly is such a poor destination - it really isn't and historically speaking it hasn't been, players don't go to Philly now because they have sucked for a really long time not because it's a small market (it's like the 5th biggest city in USA).

Let me parachute into this swamp.

I was in Center City Philly recently and people were literally forced to walk in the street because the sidewaks were overflowing with people. I overheard a suit saying to a companion are you sure we didn't land in Manhattan and not Philly? Its a thriving downtown that if you dropped anywhere else in the country including the west coast it would become that areas cultural mecca.(Only exception might be Chicago) People would say OMG so this is what a City is supposed to look and act like.

And its an hours drive from some of the best beaches on the east coast(South Jersey). No offense to Cleveland but for Woj to compare Philly as a lateral move from Cle was pretty ignorant. Philly is the 4th largest Media Market in the USA not that far behind Chicago. Its closer to Chicago than Bos/SF is to Philly in regards to Media Market Size.

If I were Brett Brown, I'd have JJ Redick on the phone to both Kawahi and Lebron telling him how much he loved playing in Philly too.

[spikeslovechild]

Rozier doesn't widen any gap except the gap between what his fans think is a good trade, and what the rest of the world thinks is good.

If you said that before the playoffs it has more merit. Dude balled out. His value is probably never going to be higher

His value probably won't be higher. But that doesn't make it good, especially to SA.

If SA likes him they can just throw a RFA offer in a years time. It's not like the celtics can match.

[Slacktard]

Embiid shudda probably kept his mouth shut rather than rip on LeBron (LA is Kobe/Magic's town) yesterday. Things change quick.

I think LeBron is just using the Sixers to try and force the Lakers to go all-in on Kawhi and massively overpay. LeBron doesn't care about young players and draft picks.

[TheNewEra]

Yeah because if Pop is seriously considering stepping down in two years, he DEFINITELY wants to trade his gruntled star in a package centered around a guy who forgot how to shoot a basketball.

Totally realistic. I can think of no better way for Pop to spend his last few years coaching.........

So he rather have to overpay and hope for better shooting and consistentcy with lower upside from Smart and Rozier?

[BigTrade92]

Honestly I think Kawhi to Boston would've been done by now if Ainge was a little looser, but there are a couple of factors, namely the glut of wings, the unwillingness to trade Kyrie before knowing what they have with the fully healthy roster (based on the Bill Simmons podcast, they had great enthusiasm at the start of last year), and I think conserving assets for a higher upside superstar in AD.

Kyrie isn’t getting traded and both the Spurs and Celtics are in no rush to make a deal

[SMTBSI]

Woj: Lakers no longer a slam dunk for Lebron, Sixers are the team to watch

Those of you who've ever wondered how Woj always gets the scoops: this is how.

[BigTrade92]

Yeah because if Pop is seriously considering stepping down in two years, he DEFINITELY wants to trade his gruntled star in a package centered around a guy who forgot how to shoot a basketball.

Totally realistic. I can think of no better way for Pop to spend his last few years coaching.........

So he rather have to overpay and hope for better shooting and consistentcy with lower upside from Smart and Rozier?

If Fultz is getting offered, that means the Celtics must include Brown.

If Greg Popavich has to choose between Brown, Smart, Rozier and the Sacramento pick or Fultz, Covington, Saric and a Miami pick, it’s pretty damn easy to see which offer he’s taking.

[Lalouie]

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lebron already knows everything he needs to know about los angeles, but he doesn't about philly, ergo why he's there and why his team is in la.

all this junk reminds me of schools recruiting a star recruit. every move is seen as a good sign for the involved school. every recruit who visits a schools says glowing things about his visit and then it's reported he's going to choose that school,,,,like bagley to ucla

no different in the nba

[NBA Moses]

Lol if Brown is part of a package from Boston then that easily destroys philly’s offer. Fultz’s value isn’t high imo dude can’t even play summer league games. If Boston offers Brown only La throwing the kitchen sink can beat Boston’s offer. Still don’t see Boston offering Brown however but they could beat out any Philly offer if they wanted to.

Fultz isnt playing summer ball because he is in LA working with shooting guru Drew Hanlen. Reports have been off the charts to the point that Fultz has untouchable status in any trade talks.

[GoCeltics123]

SALTYCS fans, i'm out.

[mikejames23]

Lakers are the team to go, LeBron. Come over, Battle the Spurs nightly.