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Re: Kawhi Update Thread for 3!!! 

Post#1861 » by jirrit » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:36 pm

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Re: Kawhi Update Thread for 3!!! 

Post#1862 » by truth18 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:37 pm

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I've developed an addiction in collecting skins.


Folks who don't know what we're talking about are probably a bit freaked by that statement lol.


I feel your pain since I am in Harrisburg, PA and it is just as hot. The wife went shopping, I stayed home to Fortnite and refresh Realgm all day


One more day of this nonsense followed by another hot but slightly cooler day.

Just like last summer. **** hell. I need to move back to NE.
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Post#1863 » by Green_teamer » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:39 pm

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Post#1864 » by wco81 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:43 pm

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wco81 wrote:Ideally for the Celtics would be to trade Hayward, who might be a redundant piece on this team with the emergence of Brown and Tatum.

They'd get rid of one $30 million plus salary and would be easier to absorb KL into the salary cap.

But of course Spurs wouldn't go for it and even if they would, Celtics would gain a bad rep for loyalty to players to trade IT and Hayward in consecutive years -- get injured, Celtics will dispose of you rather than pay you, no matter what loyalty you may have shown to the team and its fans.

There's no getting around that Spurs will demand one of the young forwards.

How is Hayward redundant with Brown and Tatum here? Hayward is 50x the playmaker either of them are


But he's still a luxury at over $30 million plus.

Do you think Ainge would have still signed Hayward to a huge contract if he knew how much Brown would improve in the second season and how impressive Tatum would be as a 20-year old rookie, including in the playoffs?
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Post#1865 » by Homerclease » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:44 pm

wco81 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
wco81 wrote:Ideally for the Celtics would be to trade Hayward, who might be a redundant piece on this team with the emergence of Brown and Tatum.

They'd get rid of one $30 million plus salary and would be easier to absorb KL into the salary cap.

But of course Spurs wouldn't go for it and even if they would, Celtics would gain a bad rep for loyalty to players to trade IT and Hayward in consecutive years -- get injured, Celtics will dispose of you rather than pay you, no matter what loyalty you may have shown to the team and its fans.

There's no getting around that Spurs will demand one of the young forwards.

How is Hayward redundant with Brown and Tatum here? Hayward is 50x the playmaker either of them are


But he's still a luxury at over $30 million plus.

Do you think Ainge would have still signed Hayward to a huge contract if he knew how much Brown would improve in the second season and how impressive Tatum would be as a 20-year old rookie, including in the playoffs?

Without question. He’s a top 20 NBA player
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Post#1866 » by jirrit » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:46 pm

wco81 wrote:But he's still a luxury at over $30 million plus.

Do you think Ainge would have still signed Hayward to a huge contract if he knew how much Brown would improve in the second season and how impressive Tatum would be as a 20-year old rookie, including in the playoffs?


Maybe he would maybe he wouldnt but he's Brad's pupil and he has signed it so you can't really go backwards? There's no chance we're trading him this off-season. Zero.
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Post#1867 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:48 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:To get under the luxury tax threshold for this year, they’d have to trade Melo (a stretch keeps him on the books for $9 million for the next three years), then either Adams or Roberson and Singler and/or Patterson.

Best case is that they dump Melo and then the luxury tax threshold goes up next summer.

They’re basically Toronto Midwest now - Russ, PG, Adams is their core and they don’t have much flexibility to get better.

That said, two of those guys are MVP caliber at their best, and Adams is young enough to keep improving. They can be an elite defensive team next year and the offensive chemistry may be better with Melo out of the way, but they’re going to be hanging around the playoffs hoping for a lucky run.

Paul George has never been MVP-caliber, man.


George was getting close before his injury, and he's had some major playoff scoring runs. I think he can be an MVP candidate absolutely. He's getting paid like one.
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Post#1868 » by Green_teamer » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:48 pm

wco81 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
wco81 wrote:Ideally for the Celtics would be to trade Hayward, who might be a redundant piece on this team with the emergence of Brown and Tatum.

They'd get rid of one $30 million plus salary and would be easier to absorb KL into the salary cap.

But of course Spurs wouldn't go for it and even if they would, Celtics would gain a bad rep for loyalty to players to trade IT and Hayward in consecutive years -- get injured, Celtics will dispose of you rather than pay you, no matter what loyalty you may have shown to the team and its fans.

There's no getting around that Spurs will demand one of the young forwards.

How is Hayward redundant with Brown and Tatum here? Hayward is 50x the playmaker either of them are


But he's still a luxury at over $30 million plus.

Do you think Ainge would have still signed Hayward to a huge contract if he knew how much Brown would improve in the second season and how impressive Tatum would be as a 20-year old rookie, including in the playoffs?


Absolutely. He cost nothing but cap space.
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Post#1869 » by Bohemian » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:49 pm



Some people are just nuts here. There is a reason why this guy has been an ALl Star and was the most coveted FA last season. I can´t believe now he is expendable for some. Unbelievable.
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Post#1871 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:52 pm

jirrit wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
truth18 wrote:
Folks who don't know what we're talking about are probably a bit freaked by that statement lol.


Add me. I've never played before. Oddly enough, I watch a ton of streams of people playing. Let's all hop on tonight and talk Celtics while you guys carry me to victory. Lol

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Never played Fortnite either, my PSN is jirrit34 if someone wanna add me. I just play FIFA, COD WWII or Crash Bandicoot with the kids.


I have tried Fortnight. I never was a Halo guy with the jumping and all that and I suck at Fortnight. Although I’m good at PUBG because its much more tactical etc and no cartoonie type stuff.
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Post#1872 » by Froob » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:00 pm

I don’t believe Woj has LeBron sources, so be weary of those reports from him.
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Post#1873 » by Froob » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:02 pm

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Post#1874 » by robdog_5 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:03 pm

If Sixers are on brink of getting Kawhi you need to make the deal. Bottom line. You can't give Sixer LeBron and Kawhi for the next 4 years with their young core
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Post#1875 » by truth18 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:03 pm

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jirrit wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Add me. I've never played before. Oddly enough, I watch a ton of streams of people playing. Let's all hop on tonight and talk Celtics while you guys carry me to victory. Lol

PSN: MixWagger


Never played Fortnite either, my PSN is jirrit34 if someone wanna add me. I just play FIFA, COD WWII or Crash Bandicoot with the kids.


I have tried Fortnight. I never was a Halo guy with the jumping and all that and I suck at Fortnight. Although I’m good at PUBG because its much more tactical etc and no cartoonie type stuff.


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Post#1876 » by Froob » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:04 pm

truth18 wrote:
ViperGTS wrote:
jirrit wrote:
Never played Fortnite either, my PSN is jirrit34 if someone wanna add me. I just play FIFA, COD WWII or Crash Bandicoot with the kids.


I have tried Fortnight. I never was a Halo guy with the jumping and all that and I suck at Fortnight. Although I’m good at PUBG because its much more tactical etc and no cartoonie type stuff.


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Post#1877 » by GoCeltics123 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:08 pm

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Post#1878 » by wco81 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:09 pm

Homerclease wrote:
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Homerclease wrote:How is Hayward redundant with Brown and Tatum here? Hayward is 50x the playmaker either of them are


But he's still a luxury at over $30 million plus.

Do you think Ainge would have still signed Hayward to a huge contract if he knew how much Brown would improve in the second season and how impressive Tatum would be as a 20-year old rookie, including in the playoffs?

Without question. He’s a top 20 NBA player


OK, another question. Assuming Brown and Tatum continues to play as well or better than they did this season, do you in the summer of 2020 want Hayward to opt into his $34.2 million player option for the 2020-2021 season or for the Celtics to give him an even bigger contract that year?

Hayward will turn 30 in March 2020. So in July 2020, he will have completed 10 seasons and probably will be eligible for a deal starting between $35-40 million. Maybe more if online gambling increases the cap much more than anticipated over the next two years.

By then Kyrie would be earning over $35 million if he's still on the team. Jaylen Brown would be an RFA that summer as well.

Do you give him a new deal, hope that he opts out of that $34.2 million salary and signs with someone else or he opts in for one last year?

I guess it would depend on whether this roster has won any titles by that time or how close they've been, whether Hayward has had big playoffs runs for the Celtics in the next two seasons.

But if Brown and Tatum are only improving in the next two seasons and playing bigger roles and minutes in the playoffs, it may be tough to pay Hayward that kind of money.
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Post#1879 » by StojkoVrankovic » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:18 pm

wco81 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
wco81 wrote:
But he's still a luxury at over $30 million plus.

Do you think Ainge would have still signed Hayward to a huge contract if he knew how much Brown would improve in the second season and how impressive Tatum would be as a 20-year old rookie, including in the playoffs?

Without question. He’s a top 20 NBA player


OK, another question. Assuming Brown and Tatum continues to play as well or better than they did this season, do you in the summer of 2020 want Hayward to opt into his $34.2 million player option for the 2020-2021 season or for the Celtics to give him an even bigger contract that year?

Hayward will turn 30 in March 2020. So in July 2020, he will have completed 10 seasons and probably will be eligible for a deal starting between $35-40 million. Maybe more if online gambling increases the cap much more than anticipated over the next two years.

By then Kyrie would be earning over $35 million if he's still on the team. Jaylen Brown would be an RFA that summer as well.

Do you give him a new deal, hope that he opts out of that $34.2 million salary and signs with someone else or he opts in for one last year?

I guess it would depend on whether this roster has won any titles by that time or how close they've been, whether Hayward has had big playoffs runs for the Celtics in the next two seasons.

But if Brown and Tatum are only improving in the next two seasons and playing bigger roles and minutes in the playoffs, it may be tough to pay Hayward that kind of money.

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Post#1880 » by Gant » Sun Jul 1, 2018 8:27 pm

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