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Re: Woj: Lakers no longer a slam dunk for Lebron, Sixers are the team to watch **Update currently meeting with sixers** 

Post#301 » by TMU » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:20 pm

LeBron would want to be the finals again. Sixers in the leastern conference makes more sense than a weak Lakers team in a more competitive conference. Pretty obvious if you ask me.
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Post#302 » by woosah » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:20 pm

blicka wrote:Woj has no sources connected to lebron. he's speculating like always when it comes to lebron

Yep. He's been bad on Lebron in the past lol. I don't understand the tag team reporting from Woj/Windy/Ramona this whole time though. Windy was known more to have some connections but why include Woj and Romona in many of the articles on Lebron since the end of the finals? I don't think any of them know anything right now.

Calling other teams around the league and seeing what they think then comparing notes and drawing conclusions is now journalism. You don't need no stinkin sauces.
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Post#303 » by Omenau05 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:21 pm

Seriously he needs to make up his mind. For me this circus he creates ruins his legacy

If he goes to The 76ers they don’t need Kwahi bring back JJ and keep Fultz and the team is a good chance to take on GSW

Simmons and Joel will continue to develop and if Fultz rediscovered what made him the number one pick the 76ers will be the top team in the east


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Post#304 » by Dupp » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:22 pm

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jpengland wrote:If Fultz is genuinely off limits, that bodes exceptionally well for his shot being back...

If he's healthy that would be the potential X factor for that team

Simmons
Redick
Kawhi
LeBron
Embiid
With Fultz and ring chasers off the bench would be obscene and potentially beat GSW.

That said, I maintain that if I was Philly I would be giving LeBron the swerve and going hard after Leonard alone. I'd be confident that a la Paul George,after a season playing there, he stays.


If fultz can be what he’s suppose to be he’d be a really good fit with Lebron. However how do they get Kawhi and still keep fultz?

I think reddick signs for Peanuts if they get Lebron


Rumour that Fultz untouchable in Leonard talks.

Covington, Saric (both spursy guys), Zaire Smith and a first would be a good price at this point for Spurs.



I think that can and will be outbid though. If the price is bron and Kawhi you gotta just let him go. But who knows how negotiations are going. Hoping he goes to philly
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Post#305 » by Michael Lucky » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:22 pm

woosah wrote:
blicka wrote:Woj has no sources connected to lebron. he's speculating like always when it comes to lebron

Yep. He's been bad on Lebron in the past lol. I don't understand the tag team reporting from Woj/Windy/Ramona this whole time though. Windy was known more to have some connections but why include Woj and Romona in many of the articles on Lebron since the end of the finals? I don't think any of them know anything right now.

Calling other teams around the league and seeing what they think then comparing notes and drawing conclusions is now journalism. You don't need no stinkin sauces.
Ramona is the one with the Lakers sources. Windhorst is the most reliable with Lebron's camp. Woj is simply better with everyone else.

Ramona hasn't said anything all day.
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Post#306 » by Dupp » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:24 pm

Omenau05 wrote:Seriously he needs to make up his mind. For me this circus he creates ruins his legacy



He’s just going through the same free agency process most other guys go through. He’s only meeting a couple of teams and then he’ll probably decide. You can’t expect him to announce it without meeting all the teams he’s scheduled to.


He can’t help the media being on his nuts.
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Post#307 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:24 pm

This fool knows where he playing he just wants the other signings to die down. So all the attention is on him only
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Post#308 » by levon » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:26 pm

Apparently Windhorst on ESPN an hour ago saying Lebron reps talking to Philly reps is the due diligence/courtesy procedure from prior free agencies, and that the decision to LA has been made for a long time.

Last night he was saying virtually everyone in the Lebron universe says the weather vanes point to LA. Multiple reputable media sources have corroborated this.

This last second Philly push is expected, but I think played up by the Spurs to start a bidding war over Kawhi and maybe played up by James to have Kawhi done before he arrives, or shortly thereafter. If you're Lebron and the Spurs, of course you'd want to maintain that his mind isn't made up and that anything is possible, but like both parties the motivation is to maximize the desired payoff already decided upon (Lebron to LA, Spurs trading Kawhi).
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Post#309 » by woosah » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:30 pm

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woosah wrote:
blicka wrote:Woj has no sources connected to lebron. he's speculating like always when it comes to lebron

Yep. He's been bad on Lebron in the past lol. I don't understand the tag team reporting from Woj/Windy/Ramona this whole time though. Windy was known more to have some connections but why include Woj and Romona in many of the articles on Lebron since the end of the finals? I don't think any of them know anything right now.

Calling other teams around the league and seeing what they think then comparing notes and drawing conclusions is now journalism. You don't need no stinkin sauces.
Ramona is the one with the Lakers sources. Windhorst is the most reliable with Lebron's camp. Woj is simply better with everyone else.

Ramona hasn't said anything all day.

Not talking about today. I'm talking about the articles that were coming out before the opt in deadline with the triple byline of Woj/Ramona/Windy. Just seems weird they could just report on each angle that they knew like usual. Not a big deal but different.
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Post#310 » by pad300 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:30 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Let’s assume Sixers, Celtics and Lakers are competing for Kawhi. The only players worth it to Spurs are Simmons, Saric, Fultz, Tatum, Brown, Ingram, Ball and Kuzma. If you rank them ( IMO and how I see Spurs ranking ) it would be . If you rank draft picks it’s Sac19 > Mem19> Mia21 >>>>>any LAL picks. As far as accessory pieces I’d say Rozier > Covington (due to salary) > Smart > Hart.

If Celtics want Kawhi they offer Brown + Sac19 and that is really tough to beat and they have to consider it to stop Kawhi/Lebron to Philly which could end Boston’s title hopes for 3 years. Sixers would have to offer Simmons to beat that. Lakers will end up offering Ingram+Kuzma and I think that is better than Covington-Saric-Mia21 but Spurs will go with Philly out of spite.


I disagree with a lot of your rankings for the Spurs
Prospects:
Simmons>> Tatum > Brown > Ingram > Saric > Fultz (this low because of his shot/first season problem, otherwise he'd be up with Brown) > Kuzma > Ball ( Oh god no! Shoot Lavar in the head and we'll talk )
Accessories:
Covington (decent long term contract) > Rozier > Hart (rookie contract) > Smart
Picks :
I agree with you

Game theory trade offs. If Lebron is willing to go to PHI

1) PHI (current) < BOS (Current) < PHI (current) + Lebron

BOS must make a move or be locked into 2nd in the east for the forseeable future. PHI may need to get KL to get Lebron. Both teams will put packages on the table.

2) PHI (+Lebron + KL - Fulz - filler ) >>> BOS (Current)

BOS must top a package of Fulz + filler (picks,saric, covington, prospects). Boston must put at least Brown + SAC pick + MEM pick on the table

3) BOS (+ KL - Brown) ?>=? PHI (+ Lebron)

However, this circles back to 2 if PHI gets KL. PHI might be comfortable with this, thinking Lebron is top trump.

but

4) PHI ( +KL + Lebron - Simmons - Filler + SAS roleplayers + SAS 2019 pick ) >> BOS Current.

PHI can top any offer from BOS by putting up Simmons. Even if SAS has to send back a pick. Simmons has clear potential to be a league MVP. Tatum looks good, but he hasn't shown that kind of potential.

5) Except BOS can make a godfather offer:
BOS (+ KL - Brown - Tatum) ?>=? PHI (+ Lebron )

Does Ainge believe 5) or does he believe BOS (+ KL - Brown - Tatum) < PHI (+ Lebron ). If he believes 5, he goes with the godfather offer. If not, he tries to run the price for KL up to Simmons and then drops out...

Who blinks at what stage?

PS. BOS + KL can at least compete with GSW. PHI + Lebron can also compete. PHI + Lebron + KL can beat them. (So can a LAL+Lebron +KL but that's neither here nor there).
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Post#311 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:32 pm

Omenau05 wrote:Seriously he needs to make up his mind. For me this circus he creates ruins his legacy

If he goes to The 76ers they don’t need Kwahi bring back JJ and keep Fultz and the team is a good chance to take on GSW

Simmons and Joel will continue to develop and if Fultz rediscovered what made him the number one pick the 76ers will be the top team in the east


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Let’s remember that day one of free agency hasn’t even ended yet. He isn’t dragging anything out. He is allowed a few days to think about this.


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Post#312 » by igorbianch » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:35 pm

If LeBron goes to the Lakers, he is done with basketball and just wants to enjoy they weather and his business.

Even without Kawhi, Sixers is by far the best spot for him.

And they’re also by far the best shot to get Kawhi, if Ainge doesn’t want to sell the farm to get him.
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Post#313 » by reload141 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:44 pm

igorbianch wrote:If LeBron goes to the Lakers, he is done with basketball and just wants to enjoy they weather and his business.

Even without Kawhi, Sixers is by far the best spot for him.

And they’re also by far the best shot to get Kawhi, if Ainge doesn’t want to sell the farm to get him.


Sell the farm? In what way do we "sell the farm" for Kawhi? Please explain.
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Post#316 » by sfernald » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:51 pm

TMU wrote:LeBron would want to be the finals again. Sixers in the leastern conference makes more sense than a weak Lakers team in a more competitive conference. Pretty obvious if you ask me.


Do you want to potentially go through Houston and Golden State for the finals or do you want to go through Celtics? Lebron picks Celtics every time as he has proven he can drag four realgm’ers past em in a seven game series..
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Post#317 » by pad300 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:54 pm

reload141 wrote:
igorbianch wrote:If LeBron goes to the Lakers, he is done with basketball and just wants to enjoy they weather and his business.

Even without Kawhi, Sixers is by far the best spot for him.

And they’re also by far the best shot to get Kawhi, if Ainge doesn’t want to sell the farm to get him.


Sell the farm? In what way do we "sell the farm" for Kawhi? Please explain.


See my game theory discussion above...
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Post#318 » by Lost Angel » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:54 pm

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Post#319 » by Benedict_Boozer » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:56 pm

If the Sixers dump Bayless that is a big deal. They wouldn’t do that if they didn’t have some positive signs LBJ might be interested in a max slot.
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Post#320 » by jason bourne » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:56 pm

Lakerfan17 wrote:
jpengland wrote:If Fultz is genuinely off limits, that bodes exceptionally well for his shot being back...



No it doesn't, all that means is the Sixers aren't willing to give up on a #1 overall pick after 1 injury plagued season.


I'm having second thoughts about Fultz by comparing him to Lonzo. Lonzo was exciting and he did great at UCLA and did better than Fultz, but Fultz was the more complete player. He's bigger, stronger and looks like he can get to rim better. Clearly, he's better at PnR than Ball. He's got a longer wingspan which he used to chase down shots and bother shooters. His games in the NBA ranged from awesome, potential All-Star to mid-level fodder. More the latter. Still, he's pretty exciting to watch if his shot isn't broken. He looks like he can shoot from mid-range and looks to be the better athlete than Lonzo. When the shot's broken, he looks horrible and like someone who should not have been drafted. If Fultz is untouchable right now, then it means his shot has improved. Drew Hanlen has said he's ahead of schedule and by the end of summer his shot will be perfect. OTOH, the Lakers are trying to trade Ball to Orlando.
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