Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson - Pg 97-8 - Block Ness Monster catching on

[Jeff Van Gully]

D. We didn’t even discuss the merits of taking Melton instead of Mitchell. You just made excuses b/c that’s the pick we made. If we took Melton, you’d make excuses for why we picked him. In fact, you’d be using the mediocre guards as an excuse to get a guard with higher upside.

you have a real propensity for making this unfair assumption when people don't agree with you.

i am not sure what's productive about this imaginary corner you paint your fellow members into.

[dakomish23]

D. We didn’t even discuss the merits of taking Melton instead of Mitchell. You just made excuses b/c that’s the pick we made. If we took Melton, you’d make excuses for why we picked him. In fact, you’d be using the mediocre guards as an excuse to get a guard with higher upside.

you have a real propensity for making this unfair assumption when people don't agree with you.

i am not sure what's productive about this imaginary corner you paint your fellow members into.

Did you follow the discussion? All I asked was if anyone heard why we passed on Melton. He brought up our guards as a reason not to take him.

I didn’t even criticize the pick we made.

Also, am I lying about the nature of this fan base?

[Jeff Van Gully]

D. We didn’t even discuss the merits of taking Melton instead of Mitchell. You just made excuses b/c that’s the pick we made. If we took Melton, you’d make excuses for why we picked him. In fact, you’d be using the mediocre guards as an excuse to get a guard with higher upside.

you have a real propensity for making this unfair assumption when people don't agree with you.

i am not sure what's productive about this imaginary corner you paint your fellow members into.

Did you follow the discussion? All I asked was if anyone heard why we passed on Melton. He brought up our guards as a reason not to take him.

I didn’t even criticize the pick we made.

Also, am I lying about the nature of this fan base?

i got nothing against your argument. just that D. section stood out to me as a pattern.

we can all discuss our opinions on ball and current events. none of us can say what people are thinking. that's why i'm confused about the productivity of purporting as much.

[CDAZ]

Do we know if the kid is getting a 3 or 4 year deal yet?

[Polk377]

Do we know if the kid is getting a 3 or 4 year deal yet?

They might be waiting to see where he is at in his development first in Summer League before making that decision.

[earthmansurfer]

Looks like we signed Mario to a part of our mid level, which was nice as now we can give Mitchell around 2 million a year. Way more than a 2nd rounder would get and considering he was touted as a 1st rounder earlier, we might have us a deal.

[ny-n-md]

Do we know if the kid is getting a 3 or 4 year deal yet?

They might be waiting to see where he is at in his development first in Summer League before making that decision.

Would he play Summer League without a contract? What if he got injured? I think he signs first and hopefully for 3-4 years. What did we give Willy, 4 years? That allows for us to add max contracts in the next 2 without him needing to be re-signed screwing with the cap. Get it done FO.

[blanko]

With this kid give him 4 years. 3 years With a team option for yhe 4th.

Do we know if the kid is getting a 3 or 4 year deal yet?

They might be waiting to see where he is at in his development first in Summer League before making that decision.

Would he play Summer League without a contract? What if he got injured? I think he signs first and hopefully for 3-4 years. What did we give Willy, 4 years? That allows for us to add max contracts in the next 2 without him needing to be re-signed screwing with the cap. Get it done FO.

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[Triple C]

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[awy]

apparently he trained with the actual AD too, not just AD’s trainer.

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[camillepd]

Wow, I think I was the first one to say that I saw some Anthony Davis in his game.

[Toranaga]

apparently he trained with the actual AD too, not just AD’s trainer.

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“Athletically, he’s a freak,” Fizdale said. “He’s in the one percentile of high flyers and runners. It’s just not many guys that’s that athletic.”

“I think the year of school — missing Western Kentucky — hurt him individually in terms of what people think but he’s gotten better,” Marcell Scott, his trainer, said.

“He was always a whole bunch of potential but he just didn’t know how to put it together. I knew he was going to be special but the little things were holding him back.”

Scott gave Robinson the same workouts the trainer used with Anthony Davis, another client, training the near 7-footer like a guard, and then had the two work together. To approximate the length Robinson would face in the NBA, Davis guarded him, blocking his shots and making him use pump fakes and dribble pull-ups.

Scott had Robinson work on his release point and his 3-point shooting. Thinking he would get pushed out to the mid-range because of his skinny physique, Scott had him work on his 15-foot jump shots and a jump hook. He believes Robinson had fallen in love with the perimeter but thinks he can legitimately shoot from that far out, though rim protection and finishing running the floor and finishing are his best traits.

Kerry Kittles, Scott’s longtime friend, come in to help run a workout too. Kittles came away impressed by Robinson’s willingness to take advice and his shooting mechanics. The former Nets guard, a 38 percent 3-point shooter during his career, believes Robinson has a clean stroke that will only need some mild tuning.

“He can shoot,” Kittles said. “That kid can shoot. Is he a driller right now? No. He hasn’t played ball in forever. I’m sure if he can get the reps in… I think folks will be surprised.”

Scott and Stockton both believe Robinson can one day play on the perimeter, lauding his quickness and his surprising fluidity. But it will not come without work. Robinson has a tendency to be hard on himself, Scott says, and harp on mistakes. Selective amnesia, he says, would be a boon.

“Mitch needs an opportunity to where he’s clearing the head, free-minded and enjoying himself and understanding that he doesn’t need to put so much pressure on himself,” Scott said. “If it’s going to happen it’s going to happen.”

“I want to encourage him to be great at what he’s good at right now,” Fizdale said. “Can we just get him a game? His game right now is running and jumping. So anything that has to do with that, how good can I make him at that first? Yeah, we’re going to be working on jump hooks, post-up game, we’re going to always build that kind of incrementally.

“But how can we get him a confidence that ‘I can go play in the NBA game right now’ because I can hang my hat on this. Right now it’s his athleticism. Getting him to run the floor every time. Getting him to screen at the right angle and to get to the rim with speed every single time. Getting him to be in a stance on every pick-and-roll. Being able to switch on that pick-and-roll and protect the rim. Those little areas, can we make him great at that.”

And Fizdale adds: “He is a fun project. I’ll tell you that.”

[F N 11]

Jesus we did our home work this year wtf. Loving everything about the knicks right now. I think this kid is a PnR lob threat every time. For a skinny guy he knows how to get position. That piece about having AD guard him so he can get use to NBA length is insane.

[F N 11]

Spoiler:

apparently he trained with the actual AD too, not just AD’s trainer.

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“Athletically, he’s a freak,” Fizdale said. “He’s in the one percentile of high flyers and runners. It’s just not many guys that’s that athletic.”

“I think the year of school — missing Western Kentucky — hurt him individually in terms of what people think but he’s gotten better,” Marcell Scott, his trainer, said.

“He was always a whole bunch of potential but he just didn’t know how to put it together. I knew he was going to be special but the little things were holding him back.”

Scott gave Robinson the same workouts the trainer used with Anthony Davis, another client, training the near 7-footer like a guard, and then had the two work together. To approximate the length Robinson would face in the NBA, Davis guarded him, blocking his shots and making him use pump fakes and dribble pull-ups.

Scott had Robinson work on his release point and his 3-point shooting. Thinking he would get pushed out to the mid-range because of his skinny physique, Scott had him work on his 15-foot jump shots and a jump hook. He believes Robinson had fallen in love with the perimeter but thinks he can legitimately shoot from that far out, though rim protection and finishing running the floor and finishing are his best traits.

Kerry Kittles, Scott’s longtime friend, come in to help run a workout too. Kittles came away impressed by Robinson’s willingness to take advice and his shooting mechanics. The former Nets guard, a 38 percent 3-point shooter during his career, believes Robinson has a clean stroke that will only need some mild tuning.

“He can shoot,” Kittles said. “That kid can shoot. Is he a driller right now? No. He hasn’t played ball in forever. I’m sure if he can get the reps in… I think folks will be surprised.”

Scott and Stockton both believe Robinson can one day play on the perimeter, lauding his quickness and his surprising fluidity. But it will not come without work. Robinson has a tendency to be hard on himself, Scott says, and harp on mistakes. Selective amnesia, he says, would be a boon.

“Mitch needs an opportunity to where he’s clearing the head, free-minded and enjoying himself and understanding that he doesn’t need to put so much pressure on himself,” Scott said. “If it’s going to happen it’s going to happen.”

“I want to encourage him to be great at what he’s good at right now,” Fizdale said. “Can we just get him a game? His game right now is running and jumping. So anything that has to do with that, how good can I make him at that first? Yeah, we’re going to be working on jump hooks, post-up game, we’re going to always build that kind of incrementally.

“But how can we get him a confidence that ‘I can go play in the NBA game right now’ because I can hang my hat on this. Right now it’s his athleticism. Getting him to run the floor every time. Getting him to screen at the right angle and to get to the rim with speed every single time. Getting him to be in a stance on every pick-and-roll. Being able to switch on that pick-and-roll and protect the rim. Those little areas, can we make him great at that.”

And Fizdale adds: “He is a fun project. I’ll tell you that.”

Wish I can and 1 you again, thanks.

[Dr. Detfink]

I think Mitchell Robinson will go through what many rookie big men go through...that is picking up quick fouls. What's his free throw percentage, anyone know?

[god shammgod]

the god mitchell robinson is coming for all your minutes kanter, you slow footed sasquatch

[Iron Mantis]

“Athletically, he’s a freak,” Fizdale said. “He’s in the one percentile of high flyers and runners. It’s just not many guys that’s that athletic.”

Vertical spacing.

[ny-n-md]

We haven’t been this excited about a 2nd round pick since Maciej Lampe!

But seriously this kid is dripping with potential. I hope we lock him up for 4 years and give him the time and minutes to develop.

[Knicksfan1992]

the god mitchell robinson is coming for all your minutes kanter, you slow footed sasquatch

I know I shouldn't be as mad as I am about this because of who is involved but I am actually actively mad that I have to watch Enes be our starting center instead of KOQ all because of the fact that he s extremely overpaid.

[newyorker4ever]

We haven’t been this excited about a 2nd round pick since Maciej Lampe!

But seriously this kid is dripping with potential. I hope we lock him up for 4 years and give him the time and minutes to develop.

Jorts was the man