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Pacers Release Al Jefferson 

Post#1 » by Jake0890 » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:25 pm

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Given his guarantee date isn't until January, I'd take this to mean there's at least something in the pipeline. If not, there's no reason not to hang onto Al Jeff.

Timing comes as LA announces they're releasing Julius Randle... maybe it's that?
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Re: Pacers Release Al Jefferson 

Post#2 » by Tom White » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:30 pm

I posted a similar thread at the same time you posted. Maybe a moderator can combine them?

Edit: Just figured out how to delete my thread, so we're good.

Anyway, I hope if he wants to continue to play or maybe be an ass't coach he gets that chance. Good guy and good mentor. I think the team is better for having had him around.
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Re: Pacers Release Al Jefferson 

Post#3 » by Wizop » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:33 pm

Jake0890 wrote:Given his guarantee date isn't until January, I'd take this to mean there's at least something in the pipeline. If not, there's no reason not to hang onto Al Jeff.


could also be a favor to Al if he wants to try and play somewhere on a minimum deal.
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Post#4 » by HurricaneDij25 » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:36 pm

Randle would be nice but not sure how much we have in cap room after signing McDermott.
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Post#5 » by Tom White » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:39 pm

1070 TheFan also said they would stretch his gtd $4M over a couple of years.
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Post#6 » by winter_mute_13 » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:42 pm

Ok, after waive & stretch of Al Jeff, we'll have $16.3m in cap room according to the capulator.
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Re: Pacers Release Al Jefferson 

Post#7 » by Tom White » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:47 pm

winter_mute_13 wrote:Ok, after waive & stretch of Al Jeff, we'll have $16.3m in cap room according to the capulator.


"The Capulator" That's a great name. Sounds like a movie title or something.

On the other hand, for teams over the cap, "The Decapulator" would just sound gruesome.
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Re: Pacers Release Al Jefferson 

Post#8 » by winter_mute_13 » Mon Jul 2, 2018 9:50 pm

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winter_mute_13 wrote:Ok, after waive & stretch of Al Jeff, we'll have $16.3m in cap room according to the capulator.


"The Capulator" That's a great name. Sounds like a movie title or something.

On the other hand, for teams over the cap, "The Decapulator" would just sound gruesome.


http://www.shamsports.com/capulator

The name suggests something dirty to me, and if you've ever followed Sham (Mark Deeks, not Shams Chanaria) you'd probably guess it was intentional :lol:
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Post#9 » by JermaineOYea » Mon Jul 2, 2018 10:27 pm

Rumor has it that Al Jefferson could return at a lower cost. According to Bob Kravitz.
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Re: Pacers Release Al Jefferson 

Post#10 » by glasket » Mon Jul 2, 2018 10:32 pm

What a jut Julious Randle who has been release by the Lakers? Could be a good pickup.


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Post#11 » by winter_mute_13 » Mon Jul 2, 2018 10:32 pm

JermaineOYea wrote:Rumor has it that Al Jefferson could return at a lower cost. According to Bob Kravitz.


Not if we're stretching his salary.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q64
If a team chooses to stretch the cap hit of a waived player's salary (see question number 65), it cannot re-sign or re-acquire the player until the end of the original term of the contract.
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Re: Pacers Release Al Jefferson 

Post#12 » by JermaineOYea » Mon Jul 2, 2018 10:34 pm

winter_mute_13 wrote:
JermaineOYea wrote:Rumor has it that Al Jefferson could return at a lower cost. According to Bob Kravitz.


Not if we're stretching his salary.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q64
If a team chooses to stretch the cap hit of a waived player's salary (see question number 65), it cannot re-sign or re-acquire the player until the end of the original term of the contract.


I've only seen he was waived. Nothing about being stretched.
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Post#13 » by winter_mute_13 » Mon Jul 2, 2018 10:50 pm

JermaineOYea wrote:I've only seen he was waived. Nothing about being stretched.


That's true. So we're at roughly $13m if Al's contract isn't stretched, $16m if it is.

It's better not to stretch for various reasons (no dead cap in future years, plus it means the guy we're signing is cheaper LOL) but if you need the money, then you need the money.
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Post#14 » by Scoot McGroot » Mon Jul 2, 2018 11:34 pm

JermaineOYea wrote:Rumor has it that Al Jefferson could return at a lower cost. According to Bob Kravitz.


Makes no sense. If you want wren going to keep him around for camp, just keep him at the non guaranteed $4m.
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Post#15 » by cruwinas » Wed Jul 4, 2018 10:32 am

Big Al, with a big heart. Stick around the organisation, be a "lucky charm".
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Re: Pacers Release Al Jefferson 

Post#16 » by Tippy » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:44 pm

Hope Big Al is only released and not stretched. Would like to bring him back as the third big.

Have to admit, I still love to watch Big Al doing work down on the block.
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Post#17 » by winter_mute_13 » Thu Jul 5, 2018 5:14 pm

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JermaineOYea wrote:Rumor has it that Al Jefferson could return at a lower cost. According to Bob Kravitz.


Makes no sense. If you want wren going to keep him around for camp, just keep him at the non guaranteed $4m.


We needed to clear the cap space to sign Tyreke and McDermott. Just releasing Lance wasn't enough.
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Post#18 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jul 5, 2018 6:56 pm

winter_mute_13 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
JermaineOYea wrote:Rumor has it that Al Jefferson could return at a lower cost. According to Bob Kravitz.


Makes no sense. If you want wren going to keep him around for camp, just keep him at the non guaranteed $4m.


We needed to clear the cap space to sign Tyreke and McDermott. Just releasing Lance wasn't enough.


Moreso just trying to say that it’s silly to re sign him. He’s a coach at this point.
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Post#19 » by ahartleyvu » Thu Jul 5, 2018 9:19 pm

Really thought it made more sense to trade Al to a team trying to clear cap space.
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Post#20 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jul 5, 2018 10:44 pm

ahartleyvu wrote:Really thought it made more sense to trade Al to a team trying to clear cap space.


I’d imagine we tried but no one was willing to pay the cost we wanted.

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