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celticfan42487 wrote:Smart is barely worth the MLE. Worst shooter potentially in the NBA with great defense. That's an average player.
All these double figure salary offerings are an overpayment.
Playing on 1 year for the QO makes sense for him, next year with everyone having money someone will be dumb enough to overpay and give him 10-12 mil.
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:SmartWentCrazy wrote:Cousins is gunna wind up with the MLE for 1 year...
Lakers could take that risk. Who else might be interested?
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threrf23 wrote:Simply, 2 yrs 27 mil is justifiable for Smart and it's best to avoid suspicion of hardball tactics - pay players what they are worth and err on the side of paying too much if it won't really hurt you.
Going into lux tax territory this year won't hurt us too much over the long run.
What might hurt us is not having any cap flexibility in 2020. 2020 is our one opportunity to have meaningful cap flexibility without gutting our core, and it is also when AD is likely a UFA.
What might hurt Smart, is if he agrees to a four year deal @ 10 mil per year whereas he could maybe get himself a much better deal two years from now after teams strike out at acquiring AD.
Another thing that could hurt us, is if he takes the QO and then jets for nothing next offseason.
2 years 27 mil is perfect IMO and by the second year it would become an expiring salary that could hypothetically be used in a trade offer for AD.
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:celticfan42487 wrote:Smart is barely worth the MLE. Worst shooter potentially in the NBA with great defense. That's an average player.
All these double figure salary offerings are an overpayment.
Playing on 1 year for the QO makes sense for him, next year with everyone having money someone will be dumb enough to overpay and give him 10-12 mil.
I want him back on his defense alone. Hope he comes back.
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Homerclease wrote:threrf23 wrote:Simply, 2 yrs 27 mil is justifiable for Smart and it's best to avoid suspicion of hardball tactics - pay players what they are worth and err on the side of paying too much if it won't really hurt you.
Going into lux tax territory this year won't hurt us too much over the long run.
What might hurt us is not having any cap flexibility in 2020. 2020 is our one opportunity to have meaningful cap flexibility without gutting our core, and it is also when AD is likely a UFA.
What might hurt Smart, is if he agrees to a four year deal @ 10 mil per year whereas he could maybe get himself a much better deal two years from now after teams strike out at acquiring AD.
Another thing that could hurt us, is if he takes the QO and then jets for nothing next offseason.
2 years 27 mil is perfect IMO and by the second year it would become an expiring salary that could hypothetically be used in a trade offer for AD.
Paying Smart 2 years 27 is not justifiable in any way shape or form. His market just does not dictate that type of deal and the luxury tax is a big deal. The repeater tax will break this team up eventually one day. Kicking that can down the road as long as possible is paramount
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Celts17Pride wrote:CelticsPride18 wrote:
Excellent pickup for the Pelicans
celticfan42487 wrote:Homerclease wrote:Paying Smart 2 years 27 is not justifiable in any way shape or form. His market just does not dictate that type of deal and the luxury tax is a big deal. The repeater tax will break this team up eventually one day. Kicking that can down the road as long as possible is paramount
Honestly, yeah that's basically everything right there.
Avoiding the lux tax this year could save the owners tens of millions on Horford's last contract year and keep our core together.
threrf23 wrote:celticfan42487 wrote:Homerclease wrote:Paying Smart 2 years 27 is not justifiable in any way shape or form. His market just does not dictate that type of deal and the luxury tax is a big deal. The repeater tax will break this team up eventually one day. Kicking that can down the road as long as possible is paramount
Honestly, yeah that's basically everything right there.
Avoiding the lux tax this year could save the owners tens of millions on Horford's last contract year and keep our core together.
Our core isn't going to stay 100% together as is. Players get older, things fall apart, and complacency kills. We can't even be guaranteed that Kyrie resigns and besides him Tatum's the only guy IMO with the potential to be a truly elite player.
Homerclease wrote:threrf23 wrote:celticfan42487 wrote:
Honestly, yeah that's basically everything right there.
Avoiding the lux tax this year could save the owners tens of millions on Horford's last contract year and keep our core together.
Our core isn't going to stay 100% together as is. Players get older, things fall apart, and complacency kills. We can't even be guaranteed that Kyrie resigns and besides him Tatum's the only guy IMO with the potential to be a truly elite player.
Still doesn’t mean we have to pay Smart nearly double what his market dictates
threrf23 wrote:Homerclease wrote:threrf23 wrote:
Our core isn't going to stay 100% together as is. Players get older, things fall apart, and complacency kills. We can't even be guaranteed that Kyrie resigns and besides him Tatum's the only guy IMO with the potential to be a truly elite player.
Still doesn’t mean we have to pay Smart nearly double what his market dictates
It's also about showing good will to buy loyalty, showing everyone in the locker room we are trying to pay them their worth rather than the lowest salary we can get away with, and it's also about having tradeable salaries that can enable us to make trades that otherwise would require us to break up or primary core.