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Re: NBA Free Agency 

Post#721 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:02 am

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Homerclease wrote:Paying Smart 2 years 27 is not justifiable in any way shape or form. His market just does not dictate that type of deal and the luxury tax is a big deal. The repeater tax will break this team up eventually one day. Kicking that can down the road as long as possible is paramount


Honestly, yeah that's basically everything right there.

Avoiding the lux tax this year could save the owners tens of millions on Horford's last contract year and keep our core together.


Our core isn't going to stay 100% together as is. Players get older, things fall apart, and complacency kills. We can't even be guaranteed that Kyrie resigns and besides him Tatum's the only guy IMO with the potential to be a truly elite player.


I feel good about kyrie resigning here. I think ainge believes this team can beat the warriors as it is. I do want smart though. He’s a guy that can match up against a guy like curry.
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Re: NBA Free Agency 

Post#722 » by threrf23 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:11 am

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
I feel good about kyrie resigning here. I think ainge believes this team can beat the warriors as it is. I do want smart though. He’s a guy that can match up against a guy like curry.


I also believe Kyrie resigns btw.

I'm not that confident that we could beat the W's as is. Obviously, we're close if everyone, including Horford, is healthy and sufficiently rested.

And Smart is hard to replace. I also can't view him objectively. We could trade him straight up for Kawhi and part of me would feel disappointed, at least for a day or two.

But also, a couple of offseasons ago, he would have prob received 4 years and 82 mil.
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Post#723 » by SMTBSI » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:22 am

threrf23 wrote:
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threrf23 wrote:
Our core isn't going to stay 100% together as is. Players get older, things fall apart, and complacency kills. We can't even be guaranteed that Kyrie resigns and besides him Tatum's the only guy IMO with the potential to be a truly elite player.

Still doesn’t mean we have to pay Smart nearly double what his market dictates


It's also about showing good will to buy loyalty, showing everyone in the locker room we are trying to pay them their worth rather than the lowest salary we can get away with, and it's also about having tradeable salaries that can enable us to make trades that otherwise would require us to break up or primary core.

One could argue that those two things are the same. I'm not going to do that. But, one could. :biggrin:


What I will say is that it's not good business to voluntarily give away a ton of leverage. When you offer a player an early extension, often times it will be a middle-of-the-road offer, which they either take for stability, or choose to gamble on themselves and head to free agency. That's a totally fine and fair way of operating. All the burden and risk shouldn't be on the team - there should be some assumption of risk by both sides. The team may find themselves having to match something well above their original offer or lose the player, and the player may find that the market doesn't bear anything even at the level of the original offer.

If the team follows your policy and then goes ahead and gives a significantly above market value contract to the player anyway, then the team has damaged their leverage in future negotiations, and no player will ever take the early extension offer unless it's already about at the max they can envision for themselves.

Earning loyalty is one thing. Methodically outbidding the rest of the league for your players, however, is a sure-fire way to fill your roster with bad contracts and significantly damage your chances at contention.
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Post#724 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:25 am

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Post#728 » by Homerclease » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:34 am

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Post#729 » by CelticsPride18 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:34 am

Holy ****
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Post#730 » by StojkoVrankovic » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:36 am

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Post#731 » by Bar Fight » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:36 am

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Post#733 » by Dogen » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:38 am

:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:

:nonono: :nonono: :nonono:

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Did not see that coming...
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Post#734 » by Fire Danny » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:38 am

You heard it here first

Warriors to probably make the playoffs again

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Post#735 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:38 am

LOL, okay.
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Post#736 » by SMTBSI » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:38 am

Oh I so can't wait for all the Dubs fans on the GB to explain to us again how the league has caught up and they're not even the favorites anymore and their next title will be such a profound accomplishment.
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Post#737 » by PierceFan4ever » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:39 am

Wtf is wrong with him? He left millions for a season to play with the warriors? Tf??? The Celtics should have made him a damn offer omg
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Post#738 » by KL78192020 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:39 am

wow. every team should just give up. Holy crap, he took shut a big paycut.
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Post#739 » by BigTrade92 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:39 am

FU*K COUSIN and especially FU*K DURANT

Wow, league better hope that achilles is shot otherwise....... :wave:
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Re: NBA Free Agency 

Post#740 » by KGboss » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:40 am

Wtf cousins... SERIOUSLY

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