Bulls Free Agency - Merged

[WestsideResider]

Felicio must be laughing all the way to the bank right now because there is no way Randle should only be making 1 million more than him. And, Felicio will not even see the floor much by all indications. I am still upset with the way the Bulls signed Felicio to that contract at 12:01 on the say free-agency started last season. Because of this irresponsible action, Paxson is now preaching patience in this year's free-agency. We should have been in play for guys like Parker, Noël, Tyreke Evans, Julius Randle, Hezonja.

Seriously someone needs to be held accountable for that signing. Like actually have a press conference and explain what the hell they were thinking.

[GimmeDat]

I'm feeling increasingly like we're going to go after Jabari. I don't think there's any other suitors and the Bucks' hands are tied hard cap wise.

Given the amount of 1 year deals signed and the amount of players there will be in FA, plus Bucks fans telling me Jabari is in fact a 3, I say go for it. It's risky, but it's also high upside.

I'd rather pay Parker 16m now and trade Portis and get a pick back (at the deadline apparently there were lots of calls on him), than get Portis at 10-12m and have no additional asset. Parker can play SF and also backup PF. This allocates minutes in such a way that you can bring in a more 3/D oriented piece on the wing and skew the lineups so you don't have to run Parker and Lavine on the wings together in a lineup at any time.

[MisterRoy]

I'm feeling increasingly like we're going to go after Jabari. I don't think there's any other suitors and the Bucks' hands are tied hard cap wise.

Given the amount of 1 year deals signed and the amount of players there will be in FA, plus Bucks fans telling me Jabari is in fact a 3, I say go for it. It's risky, but it's also high upside.

I wouldn't be surprised if we already have an offer out to him.


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[StunnerKO]

I hate the nba

[ChiTownHero1992]

I'd take both Parker and Lavine on a 1+1 (Niko style deal)...

I'd take Parker over Lavine on a long term deal though...

Wonder if there is any news on the Nwaba/Vonleh front...i'd take both back cheaply...(if Randle only getting 9M a year...Vonleh could easily come back for half that)

[Chi town]

Parker... ACLs. Plural.

[holv03]

I'd take both Parker and Lavine on a 1+1 (Niko style deal)...

I'd take Parker over Lavine on a long term deal though...

Wonder if there is any news on the Nwaba/Vonleh front...i'd take both back cheaply...(if Randle only getting 9M a year...Vonleh could easily come back for half that)

I doubt Vonleh will come back at all.

[terry]

What about Isiah Thomas. I know he wasn't great last year but could be a value signing

Actually surprised he’s still available but yeah he would be a really good pick up but you know bulls keep using the word “rebuilding” and don’t want to get anyone like that,not even for a year contract. Let’s just wait for next year when a bunch of teams also have cap space and no one will come,then they will target the summer of 2020 lol.

I'd definitely take IT on a 1 year deal. Give it a shot, if anything, trade him at the deadline for picks.

[ChiTownHero1992]

I'd take both Parker and Lavine on a 1+1 (Niko style deal)...

I'd take Parker over Lavine on a long term deal though...

Wonder if there is any news on the Nwaba/Vonleh front...i'd take both back cheaply...(if Randle only getting 9M a year...Vonleh could easily come back for half that)

I doubt Vonleh will come back at all.

I agree mostly...I mean i'd rather he be here than Lopez but we just have a massive logjam at PF/C

wish it was Parker/Lauri/Wendell/Portis/Vonleh though over Lauri/Wendell/Lopez/Portis/Felicio/Asik

[Red Larrivee]

I'm feeling increasingly like we're going to go after Jabari. I don't think there's any other suitors and the Bucks' hands are tied hard cap wise.

Given the amount of 1 year deals signed and the amount of players there will be in FA, plus Bucks fans telling me Jabari is in fact a 3, I say go for it. It's risky, but it's also high upside.

I'd rather pay Parker 16m now and trade Portis and get a pick back (at the deadline apparently there were lots of calls on him), than get Portis at 10-12m and have no additional asset. Parker can play SF and also backup PF. This allocates minutes in such a way that you can bring in a more 3/D oriented piece on the wing and skew the lineups so you don't have to run Parker and Lavine on the wings together in a lineup at any time.

I just don't understand what the plan would be with Parker. He hasn't played SF in two seasons and played last year at 250 pounds. He and LaVine are both net negative defenders with questionable shot selection.

[ChiTownHero1992]

What about Isiah Thomas. I know he wasn't great last year but could be a value signing

Actually surprised he’s still available but yeah he would be a really good pick up but you know bulls keep using the word “rebuilding” and don’t want to get anyone like that,not even for a year contract. Let’s just wait for next year when a bunch of teams also have cap space and no one will come,then they will target the summer of 2020 lol.

I'd definitely take IT on a 1 year deal. Give it a shot, if anything, trade him at the deadline for picks.

Only take IT if he pays us to play and we can get rid of Jerian Grant for free...both of which wont happen...to many PG's as always for GarPax

[MGB8]

I'm feeling increasingly like we're going to go after Jabari. I don't think there's any other suitors and the Bucks' hands are tied hard cap wise.

Given the amount of 1 year deals signed and the amount of players there will be in FA, plus Bucks fans telling me Jabari is in fact a 3, I say go for it. It's risky, but it's also high upside.

I'd rather pay Parker 16m now and trade Portis and get a pick back (at the deadline apparently there were lots of calls on him), than get Portis at 10-12m and have no additional asset. Parker can play SF and also backup PF. This allocates minutes in such a way that you can bring in a more 3/D oriented piece on the wing and skew the lineups so you don't have to run Parker and Lavine on the wings together in a lineup at any time.

I just don't understand what the plan would be with Parker. He hasn't played SF in two seasons and played last year at 250 pounds. He and LaVine are both net negative defenders with questionable shot selection.

Per basketball reference he played near 40% of the time the last two seasons at SF. I think he can (and should) drop a little weight for both quickness and to help the ACL (just one, but injured twice). That would also improve his effectiveness at the 3. Meanwhile, his game doesn’t rely on blow-by athleticism a la LaVine. Reminds me of Danny Granger.

Has a good PER and comparable efficiency to LaVine, without being as low IQ. There was a reason he was in consideration for the top pick. IMO he is more likely to become a borderline star (a la Beal, McCullom at the 2, Gallinari, Tobias Harris at the 3/4) than LaVine at the 2.

[RedBulls23]

Nothing is breaking down. I just dislike the fact that they take their sweet time for no reason. The market for Lavine is already set. Just work with him and stop playing dumb. If you really want a player you offer him the deal he is most likely to take and cut the BS already. The waiting game could backfire.

I think the front office is pretty transparent in their contract negotiations. Imo, if this really does drag out like it does with Niko, then I think the rumors of them not being confident in Lavines long term fit is real.

All the players that they want to keep, those contract signings happen pretty quickly.

Like Felicio?

They sign players who shouldn't be on this team right away.

I mean pretty much. They didn't hesitate committing long term to him. Offered him 4 years right off the bat and will above anyone would have offered to him.

We'll see what happens here with Lavine though. Still pretty early.

[Repeat 3-peat]

If we offered Parker a contract how long do the Bucks have until they can no longer match?

[holv03]

The Bulls focus right now is to re-sign Lavine and Nwaba but that's about it. I don't expect them to do anything else.

[keloms]

If we offered Parker a contract how long do the Bucks have until they can no longer match?

Teams get 3 days after the contract is provided to them beginning July 6th.

[GimmeDat]

I'm feeling increasingly like we're going to go after Jabari. I don't think there's any other suitors and the Bucks' hands are tied hard cap wise.

Given the amount of 1 year deals signed and the amount of players there will be in FA, plus Bucks fans telling me Jabari is in fact a 3, I say go for it. It's risky, but it's also high upside.

I'd rather pay Parker 16m now and trade Portis and get a pick back (at the deadline apparently there were lots of calls on him), than get Portis at 10-12m and have no additional asset. Parker can play SF and also backup PF. This allocates minutes in such a way that you can bring in a more 3/D oriented piece on the wing and skew the lineups so you don't have to run Parker and Lavine on the wings together in a lineup at any time.

I just don't understand what the plan would be with Parker. He hasn't played SF in two seasons and played last year at 250 pounds. He and LaVine are both net negative defenders with questionable shot selection.

Yeah, the defense is my main concern. I think ultimately you hope to be able transition one of Lavine or Parker to a 6th man role because it's simply not feasible to play both those guys on the wings together. But from a pure talent acquisition in positions of opportunity, I think Parker fits the bill, and I'm not sure better fitting players that suite our timeline and are realistically attainable will be out there for our cap to be used on in coming years.

[Alcatraz17]

Can someone please sell me on the idea that a 1+1 is a good idea? I just dont see it...

Im assuming that a 1+1 is a player option, right? At best the player stays, plays well, and wants more money when contract is up.

If I am the Houston Rockets and I wanna take a chance or two on the final piece to win the championship, then yea, a 1+1 makes sense...you're in the winning window.

if I am the Chicago bulls, I wanna lock talent up at good rates, or at least for a lengthy period of time...because you know this core will need at least 1 bigger F.A signing, and you're hoping your young pieces will pan out that you'll want to pay when that day comes.

So please, someone explain to me how a 1+1 is better option for a LaVine vs a fair 4 year deal?

[TheSuzerain]

I'm feeling increasingly like we're going to go after Jabari. I don't think there's any other suitors and the Bucks' hands are tied hard cap wise.

Given the amount of 1 year deals signed and the amount of players there will be in FA, plus Bucks fans telling me Jabari is in fact a 3, I say go for it. It's risky, but it's also high upside.

I'd rather pay Parker 16m now and trade Portis and get a pick back (at the deadline apparently there were lots of calls on him), than get Portis at 10-12m and have no additional asset. Parker can play SF and also backup PF. This allocates minutes in such a way that you can bring in a more 3/D oriented piece on the wing and skew the lineups so you don't have to run Parker and Lavine on the wings together in a lineup at any time.

I just don't understand what the plan would be with Parker. He hasn't played SF in two seasons and played last year at 250 pounds. He and LaVine are both net negative defenders with questionable shot selection.

If that happens, it would be time to understand that there is no coherent plan.

[TheSuzerain]

Can someone please sell me on the idea that a 1+1 is a good idea? I just dont see it...

Im assuming that a 1+1 is a player option, right? At best the player stays, plays well, and wants more money when contract is up.

If I am the Houston Rockets and I wanna take a chance or two on the final piece to win the championship, then yea, a 1+1 makes sense...you're in the winning window.

if I am the Chicago bulls, I wanna lock talent up at good rates, or at least for a lengthy period of time...because you know this core will need at least 1 bigger F.A signing, and you're hoping your young pieces will pan out that you'll want to pay when that day comes.

So please, someone explain to me how a 1+1 is better option for a LaVine vs a fair 4 year deal?

Agreed. 1+1 sucks.

Sign+Trade him. Let him walk. Or commit long term. Those are the 3 doors.