Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Moderators: Kilroy, Danny Darko, TyCobb
Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,032
- And1: 4,128
- Joined: Jun 25, 2014
Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
As we all know, DMC signed with the Warriors, and now he's being dubbed as a soft ring chaser. I was one of them.
Truth be told, DMC reached out to the Lakers BEFORE signing with the Warriors, and Magic/Pelinka passed on him....
"Because they didnt want to wait for him to come back".
This is gonna hurt the Lakers. Yes, Cousins is coming off a potentially career ending injury, but even a 75% DMC is better than any center available. Even if he were to come back in January, he's only missing 2 months. And it was only $5 million for 1 year. The Lakers could have rehabbed him, while building an off-court relationship with Lebron.
He's still one of the greatest enforcers in the league, and pairing him up with Rondo and Lance would have been GOOD, not bad. You need that type of fire to win. He was way too talented to pass up just because he's out for an extra 2 months. It was a golden opportunity for the Lakers front office to assess his behavior and tactics off the court, and see if he would be able to fit in for the next 3 years while Lebron is still here, and the Lakers didnt seize that opportunity.
Instead, he signs with the Warriors and they dont even need him. DMC at 75% is a better player than Bogut+Zaza+McGee combined...and now every fan base is complaining and whining about him making a great team even greater....and he aint even on the court yet.
Big L for us.
Truth be told, DMC reached out to the Lakers BEFORE signing with the Warriors, and Magic/Pelinka passed on him....
"Because they didnt want to wait for him to come back".
This is gonna hurt the Lakers. Yes, Cousins is coming off a potentially career ending injury, but even a 75% DMC is better than any center available. Even if he were to come back in January, he's only missing 2 months. And it was only $5 million for 1 year. The Lakers could have rehabbed him, while building an off-court relationship with Lebron.
He's still one of the greatest enforcers in the league, and pairing him up with Rondo and Lance would have been GOOD, not bad. You need that type of fire to win. He was way too talented to pass up just because he's out for an extra 2 months. It was a golden opportunity for the Lakers front office to assess his behavior and tactics off the court, and see if he would be able to fit in for the next 3 years while Lebron is still here, and the Lakers didnt seize that opportunity.
Instead, he signs with the Warriors and they dont even need him. DMC at 75% is a better player than Bogut+Zaza+McGee combined...and now every fan base is complaining and whining about him making a great team even greater....and he aint even on the court yet.
Big L for us.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
- zimpy27
- Forum Mod
- Posts: 45,380
- And1: 43,446
- Joined: Jul 13, 2014
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
He is the best big man you could sign with LeBron besides AD.
Makes no sense they didn't sign him.
Makes no sense they didn't sign him.
"Let's play some basketball!" - Fergie
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,818
- And1: 325
- Joined: Nov 25, 2013
-
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
DMC > McGee + Rondo + KCP. Period.
DMC + Tyreke Evans + Avery Bradley was the best combo available.
DMC + Tyreke Evans + Avery Bradley was the best combo available.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Senior
- Posts: 626
- And1: 47
- Joined: Aug 16, 2012
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
who knows how his 280 lb body is going to hold his Achilles. Lopez still an option
Tyreke and Avery were both looking for KCP money.
Tyreke and Avery were both looking for KCP money.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 13,865
- And1: 3,879
- Joined: Jun 16, 2015
-
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Would have taken Tyreke > KCP but that was the Lebron price i guess, i doubt we're signing KCP again to anything more than an MLE.
idk i think we need a higher quality centre than Lopez, especially now we let Cousins go to Golden State.
idk i think we need a higher quality centre than Lopez, especially now we let Cousins go to Golden State.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,095
- And1: 4,964
- Joined: Jul 03, 2016
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Hmmm...
Maybe. Assuming DMC return in early Jan and needs to rebuild his strength which will take at least 1-2 months, where would the Lakers be? That 5.3 million will cost us 1-2 players and our much needed depth.
It will also mean no DMC until early Spring. When he return, he might only be 75% of himself and he could bolt the year after if someone gave a bigger offer... For now if we signed him, with that hit to our roster, I believe it will cost us many wins. In a fight with the tough WC teams like SAS, Minn, Utah, NO, OKC, I believe we need to be at full strength for the whole year to gel. It just doesnt make sense to lose out on the guys Magic/Pelinka likes for1 year deals to sign an injured torn Achilles for the last few months when the playoff fight might be over.
You might think differently but passing on DMC allows us the depth and time needed to gel properly while settng our roster for TD and next year.
Maybe. Assuming DMC return in early Jan and needs to rebuild his strength which will take at least 1-2 months, where would the Lakers be? That 5.3 million will cost us 1-2 players and our much needed depth.
It will also mean no DMC until early Spring. When he return, he might only be 75% of himself and he could bolt the year after if someone gave a bigger offer... For now if we signed him, with that hit to our roster, I believe it will cost us many wins. In a fight with the tough WC teams like SAS, Minn, Utah, NO, OKC, I believe we need to be at full strength for the whole year to gel. It just doesnt make sense to lose out on the guys Magic/Pelinka likes for1 year deals to sign an injured torn Achilles for the last few months when the playoff fight might be over.
You might think differently but passing on DMC allows us the depth and time needed to gel properly while settng our roster for TD and next year.
Not Yo Ham Lakers!
The Don and The King!
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,296
- And1: 518
- Joined: Jun 28, 2016
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
LakersSoul wrote:Hmmm...
Maybe. Assuming DMC return in early Jan and needs to rebuild his strength which will take at least 1-2 months, where would the Lakers be? That 5.3 million will cost us 1-2 players and our much needed depth.
It will also mean no DMC until early Spring. When he return, he might only be 75% of himself and he could bolt the year after if someone gave a bigger offer... For now if we signed him, with that hit to our roster, I believe it will cost us many wins. In a fight with the tough WC teams like SAS, Minn, Utah, NO, OKC, I believe we need to be at full strength for the whole year to gel. It just doesnt make sense to lose out on the guys Magic/Pelinka likes for1 year deals to sign an injured torn Achilles for the last few months when the playoff fight might be over.
You might think differently but passing on DMC allows us the depth and time needed to gel properly while settng our roster for TD and next year.
I thought this year was a scrub year for'LAL?
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
- dAdo dA dEvil
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,629
- And1: 507
- Joined: Jun 27, 2013
-
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
We don't have the "luxury" that the Warriors have when it comes to signing DMC. It is ok for them even if DMC won't be the same player or even if he doesn't play at all but that is not the case when it comes to us. We need a player who can contribute right away. Even just a little. Warriors have too much talent that DMC is just a bonus if he can come back. But not us.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,095
- And1: 4,964
- Joined: Jul 03, 2016
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Axxo wrote:LakersSoul wrote:Hmmm...
Maybe. Assuming DMC return in early Jan and needs to rebuild his strength which will take at least 1-2 months, where would the Lakers be? That 5.3 million will cost us 1-2 players and our much needed depth.
It will also mean no DMC until early Spring. When he return, he might only be 75% of himself and he could bolt the year after if someone gave a bigger offer... For now if we signed him, with that hit to our roster, I believe it will cost us many wins. In a fight with the tough WC teams like SAS, Minn, Utah, NO, OKC, I believe we need to be at full strength for the whole year to gel. It just doesnt make sense to lose out on the guys Magic/Pelinka likes for1 year deals to sign an injured torn Achilles for the last few months when the playoff fight might be over.
You might think differently but passing on DMC allows us the depth and time needed to gel properly while settng our roster for TD and next year.
I thought this year was a scrub year for'LAL?
We might not be the favorites this year but any time you have the best player, you have a fighters chance. We shouldn't waste this year. See which players are ready and which players need to be traded so that we transition from rebuiling to contending. Starting this year!!
Not Yo Ham Lakers!
The Don and The King!
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,625
- And1: 749
- Joined: Apr 05, 2018
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
He is best player in vacuum but his skills don't translate to team success and now he is injured so it's not a big deal. I thought that they are going to offer him big money so they can say that they get another star so i was 100 % against. On cheap deal it would be ok solution but i think that people overreacting bc Warriors took him bc only reason why they took him and not Dwight is bc they heard that Lakers want him.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,625
- And1: 749
- Joined: Apr 05, 2018
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Evans is better than KCP but every other player that is signed is best option available.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Senior
- Posts: 664
- And1: 168
- Joined: Jul 10, 2008
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Dude, we just went through this with Kobe. It's not worth the risk.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,056
- And1: 3,275
- Joined: Jul 31, 2014
-
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Cousins is a headcase He is the best center in the nab, but he is a headcase. That alone gives pause.
Then, factor in one of the most extreme injuries?
There was enough to be wary
Then, factor in one of the most extreme injuries?
There was enough to be wary
USA Celtics in full effect. Amazing chemistry building experience right there for the main core of the team
Proceeds to finish 7th and shames the entire nation!
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Ballboy
- Posts: 40
- And1: 4
- Joined: Jul 03, 2018
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
No one wanted him. The Warriors took him and they will be lucky if he is remotely useful.
Kobe had an Achilles injury every team doctor associated with the Lakers gained first hand knowledge of what an Achilles injury does.
Cousins at his best will not have explosiveness or the leg strength jump for rebounds or blocked shots. He won't have the stamina to run back and forth from one end to the other. And his offense will be comorimised. And that is at his best.
At his worst he won't get on the court till after the All Star break and by then he would not fit in with the Lakers.
The Warriors took him cause he was begging for a one year contract from anyone.
Cousins will get one year to prove everyone wrong and even then no one is going to want him.
He is in worse shape than Kobe except Kobe already got 5 rings before his injury.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
Kobe had an Achilles injury every team doctor associated with the Lakers gained first hand knowledge of what an Achilles injury does.
Cousins at his best will not have explosiveness or the leg strength jump for rebounds or blocked shots. He won't have the stamina to run back and forth from one end to the other. And his offense will be comorimised. And that is at his best.
At his worst he won't get on the court till after the All Star break and by then he would not fit in with the Lakers.
The Warriors took him cause he was begging for a one year contract from anyone.
Cousins will get one year to prove everyone wrong and even then no one is going to want him.
He is in worse shape than Kobe except Kobe already got 5 rings before his injury.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Senior
- Posts: 626
- And1: 47
- Joined: Aug 16, 2012
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Cousins on the warriors isnt a problem to me, he is not a rim protector and he is like the 3rd- 4th option
He doesnt fit the style GSW likes to play (aka small ball)
He doesnt fit the style GSW likes to play (aka small ball)
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
- dockingsched
- Retired Mod
- Posts: 56,660
- And1: 23,966
- Joined: Aug 02, 2005
-
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
“Didn’t want to wait for him to comeback” is just the PC thing being said when you think some no defense playing knucklehead will never be the same but still demand a huge role and huge money next season.
Magic didn’t want him, Lebron didn’t want him, no one wanted him. GSW just had the luxury of having nothing to lose. Doubt the lakers are losing any sleep over it.
Magic didn’t want him, Lebron didn’t want him, no one wanted him. GSW just had the luxury of having nothing to lose. Doubt the lakers are losing any sleep over it.
"We must try not to sink beneath our anguish, Harry, but battle on." - Dumbledore
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Rookie
- Posts: 1,227
- And1: 68
- Joined: Feb 18, 2004
-
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
dockingsched wrote:“Didn’t want to wait for him to comeback” is just the PC thing being said when you think some no defense playing knucklehead will never be the same but still demand a huge role and huge money next season.
Magic didn’t want him, Lebron didn’t want him, no one wanted him. GSW just had the luxury of having nothing to lose. Doubt the lakers are losing any sleep over it.
I agree
If LeBron told Magic to get him, we’d have him... he obviously didn’t want to deal with him
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,920
- And1: 218
- Joined: Aug 31, 2001
-
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Costly how exactly? Maybe if we end up in the conference finals vs the warriors and cousins is the one who beats us. But until we reach the conference finals, isnt really costly.
This year is still a rebuild year. Yes we plan to win a lot of games but if you're tricking yourself into believing that this is a championship year, then you shouldn't hold your breath.
We have a support team full of one year rentals. The goal is to show that we are competitive to attract another max player. Anything more than that for this year will be a bonus.
This year is still a rebuild year. Yes we plan to win a lot of games but if you're tricking yourself into believing that this is a championship year, then you shouldn't hold your breath.
We have a support team full of one year rentals. The goal is to show that we are competitive to attract another max player. Anything more than that for this year will be a bonus.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 4,991
- And1: 1,956
- Joined: Dec 20, 2015
-
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
The Warriors can afford to make cute little side-bets....not the Lakers.
There's a good chance Boogie may never play well again. Warriors will likely not notice. We need guys who can get out there and play right now.
There's a good chance Boogie may never play well again. Warriors will likely not notice. We need guys who can get out there and play right now.
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,006
- And1: 1,674
- Joined: May 16, 2007
-
Re: Passing on Cousins was a costly mistake
Costly mistake?
Let's see: 300+ lb big coming off of a torn achilles.
What does history tell us. Chauncy Billups, Elton Brand, Anderson Varejo , Kobe...
I think we made the right call.
Let's see: 300+ lb big coming off of a torn achilles.
What does history tell us. Chauncy Billups, Elton Brand, Anderson Varejo , Kobe...
I think we made the right call.
Formerly lakerRD