This team is killing me

[BoogieTime]

To jump up to 2, think your getting a player to help turn the franchise around, and draft another bust (Bagley through three SL games)?

Just a tormented franchise we slug through supporting

At least Vlade will for sure be gone if stands

[codydaze]

To jump up to 2, think your getting a player to help turn the franchise around, and draft another bust (Bagley through three SL games)?

Just a tormented franchise we slug through supporting

At least Vlade will for sure be gone if stands

So Bagley is already a bust?

[BoogieTime]

To jump up to 2, think your getting a player to help turn the franchise around, and draft another bust (Bagley through three SL games)?

Just a tormented franchise we slug through supporting

At least Vlade will for sure be gone if stands

So Bagley is already a bust?

Through three summer league games, yes.

Whether or not he is conclusively a bust can take several years to decide, but I feel somewhat confident, using the term loosely as in being a disappointment in general, that he won’t be looked at as a solid 2 pick. I feel you can somewhat accurately surmise a players skill package, work rate and demeanor in such a short time

No sweeping it under the rug for the eternal optimists, he’s been bad, disconcerting, and as of now is a not a good look.

I hope for him to look much better with Fox and eventually become a solid starter, but that’s a “bust” for 2 expectations

[codydaze]

To jump up to 2, think your getting a player to help turn the franchise around, and draft another bust (Bagley through three SL games)?

Just a tormented franchise we slug through supporting

At least Vlade will for sure be gone if stands

So Bagley is already a bust?

Through three summer league games, yes.

Whether or not he is conclusively a bust can take several years to decide, but I feel somewhat confident, using the term loosely as in being a disappointment in general, that he won’t be looked at as a solid 2 pick. I feel you can somewhat accurately surmise a players skill package, work rate and demeanor in such a short time

No sweeping it under the rug for the eternal optimists, he’s been bad, disconcerting, and as of now is a not a good look.

Sounds about right. Let’s judge a guy based off two bad games he played without an NBA point guard on a team with no system that only got 3 practices in before games even started but ignore the larger sample of his 20-10 freshman season.


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[LightTheBeam]

So Bagley is already a bust?

Through three summer league games, yes.

Whether or not he is conclusively a bust can take several years to decide, but I feel somewhat confident, using the term loosely as in being a disappointment in general, that he won’t be looked at as a solid 2 pick. I feel you can somewhat accurately surmise a players skill package, work rate and demeanor in such a short time

No sweeping it under the rug for the eternal optimists, he’s been bad, disconcerting, and as of now is a not a good look.

Sounds about right. Let’s judge a guy based off two bad games he played without an NBA point guard on a team with no system that only got 3 practices in before games even started but ignore the larger sample of his 20-10 freshman season.


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Hahahhaa. This is the same guy advocating we pick up Capela or Nurkic. If Bagley is a bust does that mean we can conclude Justin Jackson is a superstar based on his past 2 games.

[BoogieTime]

So Bagley is already a bust?

Through three summer league games, yes.

Whether or not he is conclusively a bust can take several years to decide, but I feel somewhat confident, using the term loosely as in being a disappointment in general, that he won’t be looked at as a solid 2 pick. I feel you can somewhat accurately surmise a players skill package, work rate and demeanor in such a short time

No sweeping it under the rug for the eternal optimists, he’s been bad, disconcerting, and as of now is a not a good look.

Sounds about right. Let’s judge a guy based off two bad games he played without an NBA point guard on a team with no system that only got 3 practices in before games even started but ignore the larger sample of his 20-10 freshman season.


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I will. I’m more concerned how he looks against NBA players. And not being able to do anything, anything, in two games offensively is scary. It’s not just bad games, it’s games where he’s had absolutely no impact and looked like no discernible talent

[BoogieTime]

Through three summer league games, yes.

Whether or not he is conclusively a bust can take several years to decide, but I feel somewhat confident, using the term loosely as in being a disappointment in general, that he won’t be looked at as a solid 2 pick. I feel you can somewhat accurately surmise a players skill package, work rate and demeanor in such a short time

No sweeping it under the rug for the eternal optimists, he’s been bad, disconcerting, and as of now is a not a good look.

Sounds about right. Let’s judge a guy based off two bad games he played without an NBA point guard on a team with no system that only got 3 practices in before games even started but ignore the larger sample of his 20-10 freshman season.


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Hahahhaa. This is the same guy advocating we pick up Capela or Nurkic. If Bagley is a bust does that mean we can conclude Justin Jackson is a superstar based on his past 2 games.

I haven’t read your posts but im guessing your advocating we pick up hyped, statistically bad, maybe perpetually injured players like Parker/LaVine?

[City of Trees]

To jump up to 2, think your getting a player to help turn the franchise around, and draft another bust (Bagley through three SL games)?

Just a tormented franchise we slug through supporting

At least Vlade will for sure be gone if stands

Labeling anyone a bust after two bad summer league games is so over the top.

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[BoogieTime]

To jump up to 2, think your getting a player to help turn the franchise around, and draft another bust (Bagley through three SL games)?

Just a tormented franchise we slug through supporting

At least Vlade will for sure be gone if stands

Labeling anyone a bust after two bad summer league games is so over the top.

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I meant through 3 SL games. I wasn’t saying his career is defined or let’s dump him now. I meant through 3 SL games. And I’m using the term loosely, as in not the expectation for a 2nd picknot that he will be in China in a few

[City of Trees]

To jump up to 2, think your getting a player to help turn the franchise around, and draft another bust (Bagley through three SL games)?

Just a tormented franchise we slug through supporting

At least Vlade will for sure be gone if stands

Labeling anyone a bust after two bad summer league games is so over the top.

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I meant through 3 SL games. I wasn’t saying his career is defined or let’s dump him now. I meant through 3 SL games. And I’m using the term loosely, as in not the expectation for a 2nd picknot that he will be in China in a few

I mean was the offensive scheme running PnR? Or did they feed him in the post?



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[LightTheBeam]

Sounds about right. Let’s judge a guy based off two bad games he played without an NBA point guard on a team with no system that only got 3 practices in before games even started but ignore the larger sample of his 20-10 freshman season.


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Hahahhaa. This is the same guy advocating we pick up Capela or Nurkic. If Bagley is a bust does that mean we can conclude Justin Jackson is a superstar based on his past 2 games.

I haven’t read your posts but im guessing your advocating we pick up hyped, statistically bad, maybe perpetually injured players like Parker/LaVine?

Lol actually quite the opposite. I went through a 2 hour pout where i was irritated about LBJ signing in LA and said we should pursue Jabari (of course rather than the reports which suggested we go for Lavine). I still believe getting Jabari on a 1 or 2 year deal if hes renounced isn't terrible, but I typically haven't supported he or his game. Lavine is an absolute no go.

That said having Giles/WCS/Bagley/Skal/Koufos/Randolph all on the roster and chasing Capela or Nurkic would be the absolute dumbest thing the Kings could do. As if we weren't playing archaic enough lets go bust 20+ million on another big man!

[LightTheBeam]

Labeling anyone a bust after two bad summer league games is so over the top.

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I meant through 3 SL games. I wasn’t saying his career is defined or let’s dump him now. I meant through 3 SL games. And I’m using the term loosely, as in not the expectation for a 2nd picknot that he will be in China in a few

I mean was the offensive scheme running PnR? Or did they feed him in the post?



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It doesn't even matter. Anthony Randolph was a summer league superstar, how did that exactly turn out? Calling anyone a bust after 3 summer league games is a joke. The guy got drafted 2 weeks ago and should be a college freshman enjoying his last summer before heading off to college.

[City of Trees]

I meant through 3 SL games. I wasn’t saying his career is defined or let’s dump him now. I meant through 3 SL games. And I’m using the term loosely, as in not the expectation for a 2nd picknot that he will be in China in a few

I mean was the offensive scheme running PnR? Or did they feed him in the post?



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It doesn't even matter. Anthony Randolph was a summer league superstar, how did that exactly turn out? Calling anyone a bust after 3 summer league games is a joke. The guy got drafted 2 weeks ago and should be a college freshman enjoying his last summer before heading off to college.

Im with you. Its over the top. You can say youre concerned. Stay away from the word bust.

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[BoogieTime]

Hahahhaa. This is the same guy advocating we pick up Capela or Nurkic. If Bagley is a bust does that mean we can conclude Justin Jackson is a superstar based on his past 2 games.

I haven’t read your posts but im guessing your advocating we pick up hyped, statistically bad, maybe perpetually injured players like Parker/LaVine?

Lol actually quite the opposite. I went through a 2 hour pout where i was irritated about LBJ signing in LA and said we should pursue Jabari (of course rather than the reports which suggested we go for Lavine). I still believe getting Jabari on a 1 or 2 year deal if hes renounced isn't terrible, but I typically haven't supported he or his game. Lavine is an absolute no go.

That said having Giles/WCS/Bagley/Skal/Koufos/Randolph all on the roster and chasing Capela or Nurkic would be the absolute dumbest thing the Kings could do. As if we weren't playing archaic enough lets go bust 20+ million on another big man!

Why would I care about Randolph/Koufos/WCS etc when making decisions heading to the future about my franchise?

Bagley/Giles and maybe Skal, but not so much after last year, would even factor into

You can rearrange the others

[LightTheBeam]

I haven’t read your posts but im guessing your advocating we pick up hyped, statistically bad, maybe perpetually injured players like Parker/LaVine?

Lol actually quite the opposite. I went through a 2 hour pout where i was irritated about LBJ signing in LA and said we should pursue Jabari (of course rather than the reports which suggested we go for Lavine). I still believe getting Jabari on a 1 or 2 year deal if hes renounced isn't terrible, but I typically haven't supported he or his game. Lavine is an absolute no go.

That said having Giles/WCS/Bagley/Skal/Koufos/Randolph all on the roster and chasing Capela or Nurkic would be the absolute dumbest thing the Kings could do. As if we weren't playing archaic enough lets go bust 20+ million on another big man!

Why would I care about Randolph/Koufos/WCS etc when making decisions heading to the future about my franchise?

Bagley/Giles and maybe Skal, but not so much after last year, would even factor into

You can rearrange the others

Capela just isn't worth what it would take to grab him. Without Harden/CP3 I think he becomes an overpaid average player at best. Worst case scenario its looking like an awful contract by midway through the 1st year.

Nurkic has never impressed me to much, poor attitude. I threw around the idea earlier this year prior to drafting Bagley. But grabbing him now just stunts the growth of Giles/Bags

[BoogieTime]

Lol actually quite the opposite. I went through a 2 hour pout where i was irritated about LBJ signing in LA and said we should pursue Jabari (of course rather than the reports which suggested we go for Lavine). I still believe getting Jabari on a 1 or 2 year deal if hes renounced isn't terrible, but I typically haven't supported he or his game. Lavine is an absolute no go.

That said having Giles/WCS/Bagley/Skal/Koufos/Randolph all on the roster and chasing Capela or Nurkic would be the absolute dumbest thing the Kings could do. As if we weren't playing archaic enough lets go bust 20+ million on another big man!

Why would I care about Randolph/Koufos/WCS etc when making decisions heading to the future about my franchise?

Bagley/Giles and maybe Skal, but not so much after last year, would even factor into

You can rearrange the others

Capela just isn't worth what it would take to grab him. Without Harden/CP3 I think he becomes an overpaid average player at best. Worst case scenario its looking like an awful contract by midway through the 1st year.

Nurkic has never impressed me to much, poor attitude. I threw around the idea earlier this year prior to drafting Bagley. But grabbing him now just stunts the growth of Giles/Bags

Nurkic helped transform the Blazers from a bad defensive team to a solid one and has good advanced stats

They are arguably the best FAs on the class. The other names are injury risks like Parker/LaVine, dimensional bench players like Smart etc. Maybe Anderson but I don’t consider him on franchise defensive big level

Bagley/Giles have struggled to produce winning basketball in SL, I think it’s a stretch they go with them now

[codydaze]

Why would I care about Randolph/Koufos/WCS etc when making decisions heading to the future about my franchise?

Bagley/Giles and maybe Skal, but not so much after last year, would even factor into

You can rearrange the others

Capela just isn't worth what it would take to grab him. Without Harden/CP3 I think he becomes an overpaid average player at best. Worst case scenario its looking like an awful contract by midway through the 1st year.

Nurkic has never impressed me to much, poor attitude. I threw around the idea earlier this year prior to drafting Bagley. But grabbing him now just stunts the growth of Giles/Bags

Nurkic helped transform the Blazers from a bad defensive team to a solid one and has good advanced stats

They are arguably the best FAs on the class. The other names are injury risks like Parker/LaVine, dimensional bench players like Smart etc. Maybe Anderson but I don’t consider him on franchise defensive big level

Bagley/Giles have struggled to produce winning basketball in SL, I think it’s a stretch they go with them now

Ray McCallum and Ben Mclemore produced a summer league championship.

[Castor_Troy]

Why would I care about Randolph/Koufos/WCS etc when making decisions heading to the future about my franchise?

Bagley/Giles and maybe Skal, but not so much after last year, would even factor into

You can rearrange the others

Capela just isn't worth what it would take to grab him. Without Harden/CP3 I think he becomes an overpaid average player at best. Worst case scenario its looking like an awful contract by midway through the 1st year.

Nurkic has never impressed me to much, poor attitude. I threw around the idea earlier this year prior to drafting Bagley. But grabbing him now just stunts the growth of Giles/Bags

Nurkic helped transform the Blazers from a bad defensive team to a solid one and has good advanced stats

They are arguably the best FAs on the class. The other names are injury risks like Parker/LaVine, dimensional bench players like Smart etc. Maybe Anderson but I don’t consider him on franchise defensive big level

Bagley/Giles have struggled to produce winning basketball in SL, I think it’s a stretch they go with them now

I could care less if we win games in summer league...this coaching staff could care less if we win games in summer league...you need to chill with your winning in summer league stress.

[sacking123]

I think the real issue here is the use of the word bust. You can’t label someone a bust and then a couple of years later they aren’t a bust.
Once a player is labelled a bust that is what they are.
And to do just that is quite silly after a few SL games.
Bagley will make a lot of us look silly once he gets onto an NBA court with players that actually provide spacing.
He has a lot to improve on, but let’s pump the breaks on labelling him a bust when he hasn’t even played 1 NBA game yet.


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[BoogieTime]

On the Vlade file, a general nba fan panned 4/78 for LaVine. IMO the notion stopped at already having two solid SGs and Buddy already needing to start, but even that being said the contract was suspicious. In the General Forum the offer was met with a general disdain, even in the Bulls forum/match thread the poll is currently a near 2 to 1 that fans didn’t want to match it. (I won’t get into not going after Capela/Nurkic on fair deals because of holding onto WCS, which goes against what I endorse)

Another reason why I personally don’t feel good in FA as long as Vlade is in charge