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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1381 » by NavalAviator94 » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:29 pm

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:When do we see some Vuc rumors... or does he really have 0 value??


Maybe he's our David Lee and Fournier our Monta Ellis. Remember when Steph was the third leading scorer with 14 ppg and Draymont averaged like 2 ppg and 3 rebs. David Lee averaged almost 20 ppg that year. I could see keeping Vuc for 1 more year.


If it weren't for Biz....

I could absolutely see Vuc coming back for another 4 year contract. The financial value on centers right now is the lowest it's going to get. If you can get Vuc on an undervalued contract, we will(in whole) dominate the C position for the next 5-7 years.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1382 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:31 pm

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:When do we see some Vuc rumors... or does he really have 0 value??


Maybe he's our David Lee and Fournier our Monta Ellis. Remember when Steph was the third leading scorer with 14 ppg and Draymont averaged like 2 ppg and 3 rebs. David Lee averaged almost 20 ppg that year. I could see keeping Vuc for 1 more year.


keeping Vuc does nothing for this team. The fact that he hasn't been traded in 2 years really really shows that his stats and game is complete fools gold. Yeah he might be a double double machine but he's inefficient, has a lack of leadership skills, poor defender and won't accept ultimately he's a bench player. Yes on the Magic he might be one of the better players but that's the issue, he's entitled and feels as if he is untouchable.

Magic drafted a C, have another project/young C and Biz. Magic should find a way to make sure Bamba/Birch get enough minutes to grow and improve while Biz get's spot minutes.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1383 » by SOUL » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:32 pm

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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1384 » by NavalAviator94 » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:34 pm

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Is Kemba on the move before the season or is this just in case? Interesting
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1385 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:34 pm

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Kemba + Parker is a very good 1-2 PG punch
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1386 » by Uncommon » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:36 pm

Woj says Parker will back up Kemba. I believe him. Parker just isn’t a starter anymore. I don’t think Kemba gets traded, Charlotte really likes him.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1387 » by woosah » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:37 pm

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Is Kemba on the move before the season or is this just in case? Interesting

Just typed the same in a different thread.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1388 » by ChosenSavior » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:39 pm

Can't believe TP9 is not a Spur anymore but the writing was on the wall last season and he has stated that he wants to play until he is 40. He was not going to be able to do that with San Antonio.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1389 » by NavalAviator94 » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:45 pm

ChosenSavior wrote:Can't believe TP9 is not a Spur anymore but the writing was on the wall last season and he has stated that he wants to play until he is 40. He was not going to be able to do that with San Antonio.


This could also be a way to heal some wounds if Kawhi was really pissed about what he said.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1390 » by ChosenSavior » Fri Jul 6, 2018 7:48 pm

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ChosenSavior wrote:Can't believe TP9 is not a Spur anymore but the writing was on the wall last season and he has stated that he wants to play until he is 40. He was not going to be able to do that with San Antonio.


This could also be a way to heal some wounds if Kawhi was really pissed about what he said.


Possibly but I think his uncle is in full control of what is going on between Kawhi and the Spurs and will do whatever is necessary to slander the Spurs to get him out of there. Parker's comments were blunt but were taken out of context IMO.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1391 » by Mario_Kasun » Fri Jul 6, 2018 8:16 pm

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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1392 » by OrlandoNed » Fri Jul 6, 2018 8:21 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:When do we see some Vuc rumors... or does he really have 0 value??


Maybe he's our David Lee and Fournier our Monta Ellis. Remember when Steph was the third leading scorer with 14 ppg and Draymont averaged like 2 ppg and 3 rebs. David Lee averaged almost 20 ppg that year. I could see keeping Vuc for 1 more year.


If it weren't for Biz....

I could absolutely see Vuc coming back for another 4 year contract. The financial value on centers right now is the lowest it's going to get. If you can get Vuc on an undervalued contract, we will(in whole) dominate the C position for the next 5-7 years.

You say that like it means anything. The center position is pretty marginalized. Dominating the center position is like dominating the special Olympics or winning a debate on the internet, yeah you won but who cares, you’re still ret@rded.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1393 » by woosah » Fri Jul 6, 2018 8:21 pm

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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1394 » by OrlandoNed » Fri Jul 6, 2018 8:23 pm

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Man I love this dude. Always repping his team hard online. Wouldn’t mind him sticking around.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1395 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Fri Jul 6, 2018 8:27 pm

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NavalAviator94 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Maybe he's our David Lee and Fournier our Monta Ellis. Remember when Steph was the third leading scorer with 14 ppg and Draymont averaged like 2 ppg and 3 rebs. David Lee averaged almost 20 ppg that year. I could see keeping Vuc for 1 more year.


If it weren't for Biz....

I could absolutely see Vuc coming back for another 4 year contract. The financial value on centers right now is the lowest it's going to get. If you can get Vuc on an undervalued contract, we will(in whole) dominate the C position for the next 5-7 years.

You say that like it means anything. The center position is pretty marginalized. Dominating the center position is like dominating the special Olympics or winning a debate on the internet, yeah you won but who cares, you’re still ret@rded.


Why would Magic offer Vuc a 4 year deal when we just signed the dude to take his spot???? I doubt we even offer him a contract if he finishes the year here. We could go into next season 19-20 with Bamba/Birch as our 1-2 C spots.. <-- think we should do that this year and dump Vuc period.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1396 » by ORL_on_FIRE » Fri Jul 6, 2018 8:33 pm

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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1397 » by drsd » Fri Jul 6, 2018 8:34 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:keeping Vuc does nothing for this team. The fact that he hasn't been traded in 2 years really really shows that his stats and game is complete fools gold. Yeah he might be a double double machine but he's inefficient, has a lack of leadership skills, poor defender and won't accept ultimately he's a bench player. Yes on the Magic he might be one of the better players but that's the issue, he's entitled and feels as if he is untouchable.

Magic drafted a C, have another project/young C and Biz. Magic should find a way to make sure Bamba/Birch get enough minutes to grow and improve while Biz get's spot minutes.


For me I have a differing logic on the reason as to why Vučević must be traded. He was not fools' gold to me; as his stat line proved he was both Orlando's best offensive AND best defensive player. I know he fails the eye test, and I get that. But rim protection actually is not that valuable (it saves maybe 3 shot attempts per game).

I believe Vučević must be traded because he has been trained on how to not win. It is sad for him (and the Magic). But he needs a fair chance and that must be on another team. There are load of teams needing a top-15 Center. And he is an expiring contract to boot. For me Vučević is imminently tradable for some sort of a quality asset. At maybe 80¢ on the dollar. Perhaps a non-lottery first from a championship contending team. For example, Vučević would be a huge upgrade over Valančiūnas on the Raptors run. Orlando has no need for Valančiūnas, so a third team would need to be involved. But this is a type of Dec. - Feb. trade I can imagine for Vučević.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1398 » by NavalAviator94 » Fri Jul 6, 2018 8:41 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
OrlandoNed wrote:
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If it weren't for Biz....

I could absolutely see Vuc coming back for another 4 year contract. The financial value on centers right now is the lowest it's going to get. If you can get Vuc on an undervalued contract, we will(in whole) dominate the C position for the next 5-7 years.

You say that like it means anything. The center position is pretty marginalized. Dominating the center position is like dominating the special Olympics or winning a debate on the internet, yeah you won but who cares, you’re still ret@rded.


Why would Magic offer Vuc a 4 year deal when we just signed the dude to take his spot???? I doubt we even offer him a contract if he finishes the year here. We could go into next season 19-20 with Bamba/Birch as our 1-2 C spots.. <-- think we should do that this year and dump Vuc period.


I'm looking at what we have on our team that would be good off the bench or p/t starter for injuries. We are a pg away from the playoffs which will likely occur next year. Bamba is ofcourse our future starter but we can't just look at players as if their starters or not and if they aren't then get rid of them. Every team needs depth and I like an affordable Vuc, especially if some defensive big has to guard him at the 3pt line oh and he's a pretty good passing big at that.
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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1399 » by Nemesis21 » Fri Jul 6, 2018 9:35 pm

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Re: Free Agency July 1!!!!!!! 

Post#1400 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri Jul 6, 2018 9:53 pm

NavalAviator94 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:When do we see some Vuc rumors... or does he really have 0 value??


Maybe he's our David Lee and Fournier our Monta Ellis. Remember when Steph was the third leading scorer with 14 ppg and Draymont averaged like 2 ppg and 3 rebs. David Lee averaged almost 20 ppg that year. I could see keeping Vuc for 1 more year.


If it weren't for Biz....

I could absolutely see Vuc coming back for another 4 year contract. The financial value on centers right now is the lowest it's going to get. If you can get Vuc on an undervalued contract, we will(in whole) dominate the C position for the next 5-7 years.

Yup. Let’s assume Bamba starts I would love to bring Nik back off the bench. An actual skilled back up center would be nice.


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